....Let's hope LeRoy and LeBron have their way with this fathers tail end in the big house:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/02/arizona.iraqi.dad/index.html

Dude,
It's a religion of love and acceptance...

When asked about his son, the defendant tearfully said "they blow up so quickly"

She was too 'Western', so kill her and bring her back to the Iraqi side of life...? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

Get used to this kind of incedent if current population trends persist. Their religion is the majority in many western nations.

That's why the Catholic church is pushing for a new immigration policy for illegals coming from South America and Mexico. The Catholic population in America is on the decline, so since Catholic immigrants tend to have more children then the American Catholics the Catholic church wants them in this country to keep the churches' numbers up. This goes for everyone start having more kids. That way new generations of Americans can have your values and not someone else's.

Jamie

Jamie

And is growing extremely quickly in the US as well.

I just cant fathom someone thinking this would be acceptable or o.k. to do.

I'm starting to wonder if extremism in religion, whatever it's dogma, is a manifestation of mental illness.

Someone should start posting anytime some dumbass does something crazy if he's a member of any particular religion.

Did you guys hear about that Mexican gang that beheads people and sells drug with the authority of god? They consider themselves to have biblical authority.

Hahaha

Don't get me started on whatever they are worshipping up there in Canada.

i know this is bad taste but....

that's a shame, she was hot. now i really wonder what's under those veils.

Damnit, just realized she was hot. All of a sudden I care

This is not a smartass comment. You obviously do not know many arabs.

Ahhh, the sandpeople. Never a dull moment.

I don't care "why" he did it.
Ignorant assholes are everywhere.
Personally I don't care if the fat fuck killed her for religion or for eating his last Twinkie.

My only question is why he was offered bail; especially after having fled the country.

I don't know if this is true. The incident might be peculiar. It worries me night and day. Not the population trends, but whether people should get used to this. Certainly there are fanatics involved with their religion, but if it is growing one would think there are more diverse minds associated as well, and logic will not let them continue a path of destruction since there is an infinite set of numbers and if victorious, especially with all the growth, they would eventually be rid of all non-Muslims and women, thus ensuring extinction. People focused on slavery issues should be concerned.

I would argue not to get used to anything. The situation is constantly changing.

Take for instance the mindset of both sides that the other is increasingly militant. The reenlistment and recruitment rates may be up, but the economy is down. If you are joining the infantry raise your hand! Conversely, if you are a 16-year old Afghan male, have you seen Red Dawn?

Some guy strangled people in a house in Cleveland and left them lying about for months or years. A Hall of Fame running back butchers two people and is not jailed until he tries to steal back his own football cards. Dick Cheney, having never had a job except politician suck up, shoots an old lawyer and tries to blame you for having the balls to question a man of his power (5 deferment reminder), and kids are trapped, stolen, used in the motivation pics thread, and killed every day in this country.

No, I will not get used to this kind of [incedent].

Population trends worldwide suggest that the hispanic numbers are multiplying quickly. Historically Catholic, they are to Islam like polar opposites. Their problem is localized on one continent perhaps, not paying taxes, using public services, 4 kids taking all of your Halloween candy in big scoops (LOL), refusing to get auto insurance before they and their 19 friends take an old Impala and go drinking for the night...but, the two won't mix if you live long enough to see it.

We can make it work. If you are amazed now by what you see - Wanda Sykes and her new bride and child, New York governors using huge salaries to bed superb wonder hookers, a guy with no resume running your country, laugh, and spend time with your children. My grandfather helped defeat the Japanese. His brothers, the Nazis.

We complain about a lot of shit and do little.

Imagine what our kids will see.

Thousands of people learning to purify water so they can survive the dry climb up Everest.
Completing the 15-day cold treatment to be allowed to see the last polar bear.
Men having surgery to allow them to bear the child of their husband.
College professors choosing goats and llamas as their bride.
Trying to break into Ft. Knox to see if it is true that the US stored the last side of bacon.
People with defects being made into jerky.
All gods of all religions being outlawed in favor of the giant burrito and pickled herring.
Keith Olberman elected as UN King, despite flamboyant homosexuality.
Cancer victims given season tickets to any Cleveland sporting event.
Water guns meaning instant death from IT personnel, the keepers of truth.
Balloon boy influenza.
Brett Favre lies about age and appears in Little League World Series as a backup relief pitcher.
Life-sized Anna Nicole pillow ruins marriages.
Facebook replaces water as life essential.
Oprah Book Club replaces Constitution.

And, so it goes...

I'll stay with my original hope:

I never tire in the slightest of reading your posts.

For the most part, I tend to agree with your views and whatnot. Please, feel free to PM me with what that means.

I and many others attend a church that teaches Christianity. Though it is a first generation church, it is still valid and prevalent.

As for the OP, my respects to you, and my disdain for the link contents. Please, in the words of the Maclain Brothers:

"Keep It Over There"

As in, don't let it grow to the point that it comes over here. Nip it in the bud, eh?

Muslims are a peaceful kind! Yeah right.

Well, not sure who'd want that hairy ass but I'm sure someone will.


Too bad, she was hot too.

Well if Catholics ever stand up to this, there's gonna be some serious muslim bloodshed, another middle ages so to speak but everyone just keeps burying their head in teh sand, can't happen to us!

France is 40% muslim and they are revolting..

My point is a clear one that causation and correlation share a relationship which is absolute, and any and all failures to recognize when that relationship fails a failure in logic has occured.

It's that simple.

Muslims can practice all they want for all I care. If they practice in America their practice stops at the violation of rights of others.

That's not changing anytime soon because they have lots of babies.

If it was, the real threat here is the Mormons.

I was in France not all that long ago and saw a sizeable protest of people speaking what sounded like African languages. Most of the complaints I made out seemed to be about employment.

We've been around the block with this whole Muslims in France thing in other threads. I've sat in hotel rooms and watched Al Jazeera on public access before. I don't feel indoctrinated, and I didn't get even the remote impression that Paris was going to become the next Mogadishu.

I could always be wrong though only the future will tell.

Forty-One that was an intesting read.

Yes wolf I think if the father is placed in the GP he won't be a backdoor virgin much longer. He'll get so used to it he'll start to like it, and then he'll have to off himself for becoming so transformed. The question is, how will he do it...?

BTW Wolf I'm from PDX, I love that place. I spent a couple weeks in Oregon in September and I was amazed at the Muslim population in Portland. Also, the Mexicans used to be most concentrated in Hillsburrito, but now it seems Washington/Multnomomah/Clackamas Counties are very much like San Diego when I moved here 10 years ago. Caucasian is no longer the majority. Hispanic is no longer a minority. Muslim population there in PDX seems to be where the Mexican pop. was 10 years ago.

I was speaking more in generalities. Have had many interactions with Muslim and non-Muslims Arabs, as well as Arabs engaging in Apostasy (which makes them worse to Muslims than us lowly kafirs). My Arab friends that have rejected Islam truly are peaceful as they have seen the ills of the world created by the Muslim doctrines. Then again, we tend to think it's ok to unleash millions of pounds of ordnance on people to show them their version and justification of violence is wrong. Where does the line get drawn on lunacy?

I realized that practicing muslims are peaceful and rational until they feel they shouldn't be in defense of Allah's will and laws. A lot of Christians get unrighteously heated as well. Some even kill abortion doctors or join the military on a holy crusade. Where does the line get drawn on lunacy?

There are exceptions to the rule...I'm just sad for this poor young woman that her father was not one.

Haha he probably already isn't a backdoor virgin.

I think that running over his beautiful young daughter and killing her makes a great case for his cause though.

It's obvious with examples like this why I should be concerned that people are going to flock to this religion and all start threatening my way of life.

Just heard on the news this young lady succumbed to her injuries.Its a shame.( she was kinda hot too!)

It reads to me like a little William S. Burrows, a little George Carlin, and maybe just a splash of George Will.

Spot on none the less.


As for the rest of it, Dad didn't want to 'get used to it' either. Change is scary for all. One of man's challenges has been to develop, understand, and follow a belief system that can serve as road map as to how man should live in order to honor and serve God. The system must contain some rigid sideboards, but at the same time it should promote free thinking on the part of individual men such that teachings can be applied in context. Belief systems that are more rigid, minimize redemption, or that discourage free thinking, foster a flock that is less able to deal with the present in context of their belief system. Then again the individual has the responsibility to apply their studies in context.



For the Buddhist / Shinto / Hindu fans out there - any bets that Ol Dad comes back as a dog that gets beat? Nirvana is but a distant shore.


Good luck

Thanks Mo. I was thinking of Nirvana too when I heard that she had died.

Now the people cry and the people moan
And they look for a dry place to call their home
And try to find some place to rest their bones
While the angels and the devils try to make them their own

Where do bad folks go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
They go down to the lake of fire and fry
Won't see em again 'till the fourth of July

Reincarnation is practiced as an allegory for everyday and moment being an opportunity for a whole new life to begin and end.



Atleast in the Soto Zen Buddhism I have studied.

I'm guessing The Dalai Lahma would disagree, but maybe in that case she'll make a fine Alpaca someday.

I agree heartily with your statement here though and respect your approach. If my opinion were worth anything I'd say I find that to be admirable.

Bail was set at something like $5m... Even if he only came up with a chunk of that, he'd be turned loose.


If he runs, the state gets to keep his bail money. As long as they're making big money like that, who cares if the BG gets away for a little bit?


/sarcasm

I heard that she died this morning and I believe they changed their mind about bail once she died and the charges against him are also being adjusted accordingly.

I think yesterday she was just in critical condition but I don't really know.

Thanks.
I hope they held him.

I hope his cell mate holds him after the fact.

That works for me as well.
....until they fry him.

This is not an isolated incident... we had a Muslim taxi driver shoot his two daughters here last year, the year before a taxi driver in Canada killed his daughter:
www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/011008dnmetteenskilled.7ba7cc6.html

www.financialpost.com/conrad_black/story.html?id=159480

Yeah, but you of all people should know if I wanted to I could rapidly come up with hundreds of examples of other people doing things that appall everyone here who associate with any variety of religions.

Making the religion of a criminal your target of scrutiny doesn't really tell you anything at all.

1. It's not my "target of scrutiny" sir. I the identified religion of the cab drivers only because of its relevance to the murders -supposedly (and I don't know any facts other than presented by the media), these murders were driven by conservatism. Do we know that for sure? I don't, nor do I profess to.
2. This thread is about a man who murdered his daughter - and I cited similar incidents that showed parallels. Parents that kill their children generally obtain notariety regardless of religious conviction. We don't hear about too many parents killing their kids for being too "Western" - usually when parents kill their kids they're eventually deemed criminally insane or schizo.

Just sayin'......

I just made the jump because I was assuming we were talking about muslims and not arabs in general.

Jrose is an anti-semite.

jk.

There's nothing peaceful about any monotheistic religion in their pure states, with the exception of Christianity ( and by this, I mean only the red words), which has somehow been bastardized into a violent jingoistic excuse to feel good about bad morals.

ROFL.... If you only knew how funny that statement is....

ever hear of the crusades? or good friday?

We used to get popsicles in school during Good Friday, what's so bad about that????