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#1648223 - 02/23/10 03:28 AM McMillan A4 VS A5
honkey INFIDEL# 2 Registered: 02/22/09 Posts: 359 Loc: Peoples Socialist Soviet Repub...	Guys I'm sorry if this has been asked before, I did a search and didnt come up with anything that I was looking for. I was hoping to get this from someone who has both a A4 and a A5. I am trying to pic one for myself, I have handled both but not together, and I am just trying to get a idea for how the two front ends compare to each other as far as the grip goes. I have a 5R thats stock, I like the stock on it but I cant get a check weld to save my life, witch I just solved with a check pad, but the LOP on it is way to short for me. The front end on it is pretty nice, fits my hand well, witch is why I want to know if its the same on a A5. I really like the A4, but I dont remember what the front end was like on it. If anyone has any front pics of the A4 or A5 that would be awesome, or even the two fronts side by side. Thanks guys Edited by honkey (02/23/10 03:43 AM) _________________________ "As for me, i drive with my top off even in rain or unbearable sun because the testosterone spewing copiously from my pores forms a protective layer" "Tilt your knee slightly out the door, its like Ram Air for your goods."
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#1648786 - 02/23/10 10:20 AM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: honkey]
oneshot onekill Gunnery Sergeant Registered: 07/29/08 Posts: 1363 Loc: DeBary, Florida	Check JW Precision's website. There's a good picture of both right on the Home-page.
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#1648798 - 02/23/10 10:26 AM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: honkey]
vc8541 Sergeant Registered: 01/27/08 Posts: 92 Loc: Southern California	Here is a picture of one of the rifles I used in the Marine Corps with the a4 Here is one of my a5 I prefer the a5, the a4 seems excessivley bulky to me. _________________________ [url]http://www.semperfifund.org/[url/]
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#1648808 - 02/23/10 10:31 AM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: vc8541]
patches Big Balls Applesause Registered: 02/13/09 Posts: 926 Loc: Wichita KS	If you like the front of your 5R then the A5 would be the way to go. The A4 is much more bulky and square. Get a KMW adjustable cheek piece and LOP spacer system installed at the factory to fix your problems and call it a day. You will be very happy with your purchase. It's pretty hard to beat an A5. _________________________ Snipers Hide Search Engine Link Powered by Google http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010955838166721108978:qcbx5qqy10o&hl=en http://shutupwomangetonmyhorse.com/ New and Used CNC Machinery from SMT Co http://www.smtco.biz
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#1648954 - 02/23/10 11:39 AM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: patches]
Zebra308 Sergeant Registered: 01/10/10 Posts: 134 Loc: Ohio	I have an A5 for me its easier to grab onto the forearm of the stock over the A4. But either stock is great.
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#1649153 - 02/23/10 01:05 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: Zebra308]
7mmRM General Nuisance Registered: 07/02/04 Posts: 10250 Loc: Celestine, Indiana	I prefer the A4. I like the grip, butthook, and the forearm better than that of the A5. The best advice is to get behind both and find out for yourself. Thats the only way to know for sure. _________________________ Friends dont let friends listen to dumb sh!t... TEAM B MEMBER
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#1649172 - 02/23/10 01:14 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: 7mmRM]
ker2222 Gunnery Sergeant Registered: 09/03/04 Posts: 1115 Loc: Hastings, MN	how different are the grip areas??? _________________________ "your marksmanship skill is still probably the weakest link in your shooting platform"---told to me by sterling shooter. So true it hurts.
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#1649181 - 02/23/10 01:17 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: ker2222]
7mmRM General Nuisance Registered: 07/02/04 Posts: 10250 Loc: Celestine, Indiana	The A4 has more palm swell and seems to be a little longer. _________________________ Friends dont let friends listen to dumb sh!t... TEAM B MEMBER
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#1649508 - 02/23/10 03:31 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: 7mmRM]
bsp212 Staff Sergeant Registered: 09/15/07 Posts: 889 Loc: Benton, LA	A4 has a bigger thumb shelf too - that's what sold me on it. _________________________ bsp212
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#1649574 - 02/23/10 03:56 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: bsp212]
7mmRM General Nuisance Registered: 07/02/04 Posts: 10250 Loc: Celestine, Indiana	Originally Posted By: bsp212 A4 has a bigger thumb shelf too - that's what sold me on it. I forgot to mention that, but you are right on the money! _________________________ Friends dont let friends listen to dumb sh!t... TEAM B MEMBER
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#1649615 - 02/23/10 04:20 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: 7mmRM]
96C Pork Eating Crusader Registered: 08/08/07 Posts: 830 Loc: Aust for now	I swapped out my AICS 1.5 because of it's overly square front end in favour of the rounded and dimpled A5 but have always had a keen eye for the A4 stock. Never seen one in Aust so it'd be a pioneering purchase which doesn't help so much. When you're shooting your A4's, do you run your thumb up on the thumb shelf or wrap it over the top? With the A5 I tend to run mine up high but there's not alot to rest it on. _________________________ SORD - Australias Finest Tactical Nylon Triad Tactical Precision Rifle Solutions SUPPORT THE HIDE VENDORS.
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#1649623 - 02/23/10 04:22 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: 96C]
7mmRM General Nuisance Registered: 07/02/04 Posts: 10250 Loc: Celestine, Indiana	My thumb sets on the shelf. _________________________ Friends dont let friends listen to dumb sh!t... TEAM B MEMBER
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#1649629 - 02/23/10 04:25 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: 7mmRM]
Camsnappersc Sergeant Registered: 04/23/09 Posts: 343 Loc: Santa Cruz Ca.	I have owned both the A4 and A5, and I prefer the grip on the a4, but liked the for-end of the A5. If I had to ONE it would be the A4. Hands down.
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#1649725 - 02/23/10 05:03 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: Camsnappersc]
Salmonaxe Staff Sergeant Registered: 09/25/07 Posts: 974 Loc: Lynnwood, WA	Wow, you guys are hitting it on the head. Bigger palm swell and thumb shelf are what I like best about the A4. When I got an A5 for my badger, I was surprised that part was different. Visually from pictures it's hard to see any difference in the grip area. I think the palm swell on the A4 flares out more towards the bottom than the A5. It's not really bumped out. I was also really surprised that the bottom of the stock's butthook is completely flat on the A5. I don't have any range time on the A5 though, so I can't really say if any of these things seriously detract from it. _________________________
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#1649940 - 02/23/10 06:31 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: Salmonaxe]
Savage110 30-06 Shooter Registered: 09/21/09 Posts: 1072 Loc: Arizona USA	Becks, in my opinion the only way to go is the A4, I had been behind both several times before my purchase, and now I own a A4. Call up Mike and see what he says, the man knows his stuff!!! Regards, -Felipe Edited by Savage110 (02/23/10 06:31 PM) _________________________ Originally Posted By: JARH3AD I am active duty and I've spent more time behind a rifle then most on this forum and I don't shoot paper, I drop bodies. Originally Posted By: JARH3AD toodles
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#1650817 - 02/24/10 03:22 AM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: Salmonaxe]
honkey INFIDEL# 2 Registered: 02/22/09 Posts: 359 Loc: Peoples Socialist Soviet Repub...	Originally Posted By: Salmonaxe Wow, you guys are hitting it on the head. Bigger palm swell and thumb shelf are what I like best about the A4. When I got an A5 for my badger, I was surprised that part was different. Visually from pictures it's hard to see any difference in the grip area. I think the palm swell on the A4 flares out more towards the bottom than the A5. It's not really bumped out. I was also really surprised that the bottom of the stock's butthook is completely flat on the A5. I don't have any range time on the A5 though, so I can't really say if any of these things seriously detract from it. SAL, you couldn't get me a couple pics of the two stocks together would ya? Like one from the front and one above the two? Just so I can how they look together can compare. _________________________ "As for me, i drive with my top off even in rain or unbearable sun because the testosterone spewing copiously from my pores forms a protective layer" "Tilt your knee slightly out the door, its like Ram Air for your goods."
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#1650896 - 02/24/10 05:54 AM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: honkey]
terryg Sergeant Registered: 03/20/09 Posts: 242 Loc: Atlantic city NJ	I have both. Looks wise the A5 wins. But I think the feel of the A4 wins. I would suggest adjustable cheek on them. I like the sleeve like on the M40A3. In reality you wont be upset with either. They both have there good points and bad. It comes down to what is available.
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#1651733 - 02/24/10 01:07 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: honkey]
Salmonaxe Staff Sergeant Registered: 09/25/07 Posts: 974 Loc: Lynnwood, WA	Originally Posted By: honkey Originally Posted By: Salmonaxe Wow, you guys are hitting it on the head. Bigger palm swell and thumb shelf are what I like best about the A4. When I got an A5 for my badger, I was surprised that part was different. Visually from pictures it's hard to see any difference in the grip area. I think the palm swell on the A4 flares out more towards the bottom than the A5. It's not really bumped out. I was also really surprised that the bottom of the stock's butthook is completely flat on the A5. I don't have any range time on the A5 though, so I can't really say if any of these things seriously detract from it. SAL, you couldn't get me a couple pics of the two stocks together would ya? Like one from the front and one above the two? Just so I can how they look together can compare. I guess I could, but really the differences seem hard to see in photos. Here's some I already have. A5 A4 _________________________
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#1654847 - 02/25/10 04:14 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: Salmonaxe]
honkey INFIDEL# 2 Registered: 02/22/09 Posts: 359 Loc: Peoples Socialist Soviet Repub...	Thats great Sal, thanks a lot. If you can get photos like that of your A5 that would help me out a ton!! _________________________ "As for me, i drive with my top off even in rain or unbearable sun because the testosterone spewing copiously from my pores forms a protective layer" "Tilt your knee slightly out the door, its like Ram Air for your goods."
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#1656000 - 02/26/10 03:45 AM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: honkey]
Salmonaxe Staff Sergeant Registered: 09/25/07 Posts: 974 Loc: Lynnwood, WA	Top one is and A5... _________________________
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#1656039 - 02/26/10 05:13 AM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: honkey]
BVEAL Sergeant Registered: 07/08/07 Posts: 409 Loc: Carnesville,Georgia	Originally Posted By: honkey Guys I'm sorry if this has been asked before, I did a search and didnt come up with anything that I was looking for. I was hoping to get this from someone who has both a A4 and a A5. I am trying to pic one for myself, I have handled both but not together, and I am just trying to get a idea for how the two front ends compare to each other as far as the grip goes. I have a 5R thats stock, I like the stock on it but I cant get a check weld to save my life, witch I just solved with a check pad, but the LOP on it is way to short for me. The front end on it is pretty nice, fits my hand well, witch is why I want to know if its the same on a A5. I really like the A4, but I dont remember what the front end was like on it. If anyone has any front pics of the A4 or A5 that would be awesome, or even the two fronts side by side. Thanks guys A-4 http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1234004&page=1 A-5 http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=433049 Edited by BVEAL (02/26/10 05:19 AM) _________________________ If your rifle don't have a BUZZARD on it, you'd better send it back! http://www.americanprecisionarms.com/
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#1656846 - 02/26/10 12:50 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: BVEAL]
honkey INFIDEL# 2 Registered: 02/22/09 Posts: 359 Loc: Peoples Socialist Soviet Repub...	I have looked through those threads a buncha times now, they are the reason I was able to narrow it down to the two. _________________________ "As for me, i drive with my top off even in rain or unbearable sun because the testosterone spewing copiously from my pores forms a protective layer" "Tilt your knee slightly out the door, its like Ram Air for your goods."
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#1657159 - 02/26/10 03:41 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: honkey]
Salmonaxe Staff Sergeant Registered: 09/25/07 Posts: 974 Loc: Lynnwood, WA	Really, you have to TRY both. Photo's aren't going to tell you anything that we haven't already discussed. In the end that's why I bought both. Heck, since I haven't had any really trigger time on the A5, I really don't have much of an opinion on it. _________________________
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#1657166 - 02/26/10 03:47 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: Salmonaxe]
Cigarcop Staff Sergeant Registered: 08/09/09 Posts: 997 Loc: Pottstown, Pa	I have a few of both and I personally like the A-5 better, but thats why they make Vanilla and Chocolate Ice Cream
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#1658157 - 02/26/10 11:28 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: Cigarcop]
long range dogr WWRD? Registered: 08/13/06 Posts: 2679 Loc: Eaton CO	I've owned both. And IMO if i had it to do allover again the A4 would win every time! _________________________ The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy,but does not allow the enemys will to impose on him. Sun Tzu TEAM S.I.P COMING SOON!!!!!!
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#1662564 - 02/28/10 09:26 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: long range dogr]
MX762 Lance Corporal Registered: 09/01/07 Posts: 37	I like the A-5 better.
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#1662607 - 02/28/10 09:42 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: vc8541]
Trey Warren Sergeant Registered: 02/26/10 Posts: 370 Loc: Louisiana, United States	Originally Posted By: vc8541 Here is a picture of one of the rifles I used in the Marine Corps with the a4 Here is one of my a5 I prefer the a5, the a4 seems excessivley bulky to me. What kind of scope is that on that USMC rifle? Ive seen them on tv but never could find out anything about them online.
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#1662642 - 02/28/10 09:57 PM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: Trey Warren]
Chiller Da Shout Box Killa' Registered: 12/18/08 Posts: 3853 Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada	Originally Posted By: Trey Warren Originally Posted By: vc8541 Here is a picture of one of the rifles I used in the Marine Corps with the a4 Here is one of my a5 I prefer the a5, the a4 seems excessivley bulky to me. What kind of scope is that on that USMC rifle? Ive seen them on tv but never could find out anything about them online. PVS-10 _________________________ "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Robert Heinlein
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#1662837 - 03/01/10 02:21 AM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: Chiller]
johngfoster Staff Sergeant Registered: 10/02/07 Posts: 939 Loc: Crow Country	The A4 tends to be slightly more top-heavy. The barrel channel sits lower in the A5. _________________________ "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." Thomas Jefferson
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#1662921 - 03/01/10 05:44 AM Re: McMillan A4 VS A5 [Re: honkey]
Jerry R Staff Sergeant Registered: 09/01/06 Posts: 718 Loc: Virginia	I own both but I prefer the slightly larger grip and the butt of the A4 over the A5. The wider forend of the A5 is nice but I tend to have my hand on the grip more than I do on the forend so my choice goes to the A4. That's why my A4s out number my one A5. As mentioned by others, the grip is about 3/8" longer and has a slightly larger palm swell than that of the A5 so it may be a bit more comfortable for larger shooters or those with larger hands.
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