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Create a channel Learn moreI was all over the news here for days. Looks like a good shoot to everyone that's anyone.
LESSON LEARNED: YOU JUST DON'T ANSWER YOUR OWN FRONT DOOR WITH A GUN IN YOUR HAND TO GREET THE COPS ON YOUR OWN PORCH OR YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY F-ING DEAD IN AZ. WHITE OR BLACK. ANYBODY. SO PLEASE TAKE NOTE, THATS HOW THEY ROLL. YOU CAN ASSERT YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS IN HEAVEN OR HELL, BUT NOT IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE.
It's dark outside, police uniforms are usually dark blue or black, and they apparently weren't standing within view of the peephole. Victim's brother alleged that they couldn't hear the police ID themselves over the sound of video games. Opening the door, even with a gun, is not a great idea if you can't ID the people on the other side of it.Every LEO I’ve talked to said this was a bad shot.
Don’t open the door. That’s the lesson.
Bad shoot in every way. Dumb for coming out, but police have to assume impairment of some sort when people are answering the door, especially at night. Drunk, high, just woken up or whatever. You flash a bright ass flashlight in someones eyes how is he supposed to know who you are, although he was complying. Seriously scary shit.Dude was getting on his knees, hands out... WTF
Bad shoot in every way. Dumb for coming out, but police have to assume impairment of some sort when people are answering the door, especially at night. Drunk, high, just woken up or whatever. You flash a bright ass flashlight in someones eyes how is he supposed to know who you are, although he was complying. Seriously scary shit.
Agreed. I dunno about getting away with it, but we will see. I can see how two idiots meet and one ends up dead, surprised it doesn’t happen more often.Looked bad to me. As said above he was blinded, he was getting on his knees and not pointing the gun. Cop over reacted and will get away with it.
Never open the door, you dont know who the fuck it might be.
And not bothering to render aid.
Shit.
Bad shoot in every way. Dumb for coming out, but police have to assume impairment of some sort when people are answering the door, especially at night. Drunk, high, just woken up or whatever. You flash a bright ass flashlight in someones eyes how is he supposed to know who you are, although he was complying. Seriously scary shit.
Standing out of the fatal funnel is protocol.They really need to stop hiring police from the ranks of the Dumbs... I hope the shooter goes to jail. Forever.
banging on the door, out of sight of the peep hole, flashing super bright light in the eyes, immediately... that was an ambush
I agree. Sent chills up my spine. My brother did the same thing when he went via heart attack. I started CPR while he was still carping.Didn't see much since they blurred it out. But looked like he was kneeling and raising his hands. I have answered the door plenty of times holding a gun.
I'm withholding my vote, but simply holding a gun doesn't mean the cops get to gun you down. There had better be more to it to justify his killing.
BTW that sounded like agonal breathing. Think he was beyond help.
Standing out of the fatal funnel is protocol.
The cop doing all the talking at first, was okay, task directing etc...
His trigger happy partner, that also failed to render aid on the other hand, should be arrested.
Start by asking "who is it?" before opening the door.fair enough on the peep, but how am I , as a citizen, supposed to know you're a bona fide cop when you deny me any means of verifying who you are and when I open the door I'm essentially incapacitated with a blinding light and yelling? Do I need training on how to answer my door so cops don't shoot me in front of my family?
Police need to realize its not MY responsibility to make their job safe and that they own the interaction and how it goes so long as I don't act illegally.
I doubt he had any.We all might want to take a deep breath, stand back and wait for the autopsy. I’m curious how much fentanyl, methamphetamine, hydrocodone and THC he had on board.
We all might want to take a deep breath, stand back and wait for the autopsy. I’m curious how much fentanyl, methamphetamine, hydrocodone and THC he had on board.
We all might want to take a deep breath, stand back and wait for the autopsy. I’m curious how much fentanyl, methamphetamine, hydrocodone and THC he had on board.
Shooter should be charged with first degree murder, the caller as an accomplice.
We all might want to take a deep breath, stand back and wait for the autopsy. I’m curious how much fentanyl, methamphetamine, hydrocodone and THC he had on board.
I doubt he had any.
You got to know for a fact if the guy was black we would have live feed of the riots on every news feed with fired people and chief and mayor crying about bad action and washing people's feet type shit.
We should have exactly that whenever and with whoever this kind of shit happens.
When I see stuff like this happen; sometimes I begin to wonder if the police should be de-funded.
They will just step up their asset forfeiture game to stay funded. Have you ever seen any government related agency wither away once it was created?When I see stuff like this happen; sometimes I begin to wonder if the police should be de-funded.
Tough call but the ones that do this kind of murder should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.