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pmclaine · Dec 21, 2021

Wife sent me on another mission.....I need to get back to work and stop this shit.

Was supposed to go over to the rental property and set up a heater in the garage for the painters to paint in a warm space.

This is the heater...

Must have been the early days of having China build our shit as it's actually made pretty sweet but the fan has become coated with waxes or oils through age and sitting. Needs to be cleaned and cleared.

Took all the Phillips screws out than found these cocksuckers....l

Triangle safety screws.

I used an Allen and got probably 6 of 8 to loosen. Been soaking them in Kroil and will try again on the stubborn ones.

Who the fuck is going to tell me it's unsafe to work on electrical shit by installing bullshit hardware?

Might have to try a reverse drill easy out and will replace everything with Phillips or slotted when done.

Bastards.

W54/XM-388 · Dec 21, 2021

You can order those drivers on eBay or Amazon.

Mike Casselton · Dec 21, 2021

Small vise grip on the head. Should spin right off

Mr. Z · Dec 21, 2021

Mike Casselton said:
Small vise grip on the head. Should spin right off

Chinese screws? Yup, the heads will spin right off. Sunzabichiz.

cornhusker86 · Dec 21, 2021

@pmclaine

Did you mean to have this thread in Vintage Sniper Rifles?

pmclaine · Dec 21, 2021

cornhusker86 said:
@pmclaine

Did you mean to have this thread in Vintage Sniper Rifles?

Of course...it's a vintage heater.

I knew @Mike Casselton would come up with a good idea.

@buffalowinter will be along so to tell me how to make my own screws and build one of these using a flat bladed shovel.

pmclaine · Dec 21, 2021

Mike Casselton said:
Small vise grip on the head. Should spin right off

Good call. That may work. It will be tried next try.

pmclaine · Dec 21, 2021

W54/XM-388 said:
You can order those drivers on eBay or Amazon.

Didn't want to buy more Chinesium to overcome the stuck Chinesium.

larryh128 · Dec 21, 2021

LOL LMFAO

jinxx4ever · Dec 21, 2021

grind them off, u dont need all them to put it back together anyway

pmclaine · Dec 21, 2021

jinxx4ever said:
grind them off, u dont need all them to put it back together anyway

That would disturb my OCD.

SWgeezer · Dec 21, 2021

pmclaine said:
That would disturb my OCD.

use a dremel tool and cut a flat slot into them for a flat screwdriver, before you try to loosen the screws, put an old screwdriver in the slot and whack it with a hammer. The screws will come out easier.

Mike Casselton · Dec 21, 2021

SWgeezer said:
use a dremel tool and cut a flat slot into them for a flat screwdriver, before you try to loosen the screws, put an old screwdriver in the slot and whack it with a hammer. The screws will come out easier.

A lot of times you can get the same effect without the hammer by actually tightening the screw.

Tighten it JUST enough to see it move and break the grip.

I won many, many beer bets using this technique on aircraft screws.
Especially on those fucking coin slot bastards.

Stupidest fastener ever designed.
The slot is always too shallow for the tool that fits it and it's loose. Doesn't provide shit for grip of the tool.

whatsupdoc · Dec 21, 2021

Straight blade screwdriver just wide enough to fit against one of the flats on the triangle.

Duc · Dec 21, 2021

The D · Dec 21, 2021

whatsupdoc said:
Straight blade screwdriver just wide enough to fit against one of the flats on the triangle.

This

Jscb1b · Dec 21, 2021

Oxy-cetaline.

hlee · Dec 21, 2021

Replace the screws with torx when you get the triangles out.

Stevo86 · Dec 21, 2021

Carlos Danger · Dec 21, 2021

Not saying to go the hot knife but.....

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jinxx4ever · Dec 21, 2021

pmclaine said:
That would disturb my OCD.

i dont' let little shit like this bother me, i guess that's why at 65 i still have a pretty good head of hair with not much grey

sirhrmechanic · Dec 21, 2021

pmclaine said:
Of course...it's a vintage heater.

I knew @Mike Casselton would come up with a good idea.

@buffalowinter will be along so to tell me how to make my own screws and build one of these using a flat bladed shovel.

I was just going to suggest making your own triangle driver by grinding the tip off a old screwdriver and then cutting the tip.

Of course I would also have you refinish the screwdriver handle and give it a nice Purdys warthog oil finish. And probably have the whole thing cold rust blued. And a case made for it out of the finest burl walnut.

Nice heater.

pmclaine · Dec 21, 2021

sirhrmechanic said:
I was just going to suggest making your own triangle driver by grinding the tip off a old screwdriver and then cutting the tip.

Of course I would also have you refinish the screwdriver handle and give it a nice Purdys warthog oil finish. And probably have the whole thing cold rust blued. And a case made for it out of the finest burl walnut.

Nice heater.

Tell me more of how to touch up just the tip.......

sirhrmechanic · Dec 21, 2021

pmclaine said:
Tell me more of how to touch up just the tip.......

Do I look like some kind of federal agent gay….

Sirhr

sirhrmechanic · Dec 21, 2021

And no one better FIFY that one….

Ranchhand · Dec 21, 2021

Drill those cocksuckers out and make them speak American.

pmclaine · Dec 21, 2021

Ranchhand said:
Drill those cocksuckers out and make them speak American.

They say "Love you long time" now when I torque on them.

Liberator52 · Dec 22, 2021

Don't you feel better now that you run it through the forum ?

pitspitr · Dec 22, 2021

Mike Casselton said:
Small vise grip on the head. Should spin right off

That's my fix, but there are a lot of other good ones on here. I especially like sirhrmechanic's idea and with your OCD it should be perfect.

pmclaine · Dec 22, 2021

Liberator52 said:
Don't you feel better now that you run it through the forum ?

Always. I never make a decision until I check with the forum.

MtnCreek · Dec 22, 2021

See if the end of a triangular file will fit it.

Cold chisel to the side will spin it off but you may mar the sheetmetal.

buffalowinter · Dec 22, 2021

pmclaine said:
Of course...it's a vintage heater.

I knew @Mike Casselton would come up with a good idea.

@buffalowinter will be along so to tell me how to make my own screws and build one of these using a flat bladed shovel.

As soon as I saw that I thought "Why don't you just make a driver"? Or...

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pmclaine · Dec 22, 2021

MtnCreek said:
See if the end of a triangular file will fit it.

Cold chisel to the side will spin it off but you may mar the sheetmetal.

Brilliant!

pmclaine · Dec 22, 2021

Well after all that ....when I got it apart found that the plastic hub on the fan was broke and getting the motor spinning is useless because the old plastic dried/cracked so I gave it a try but not going to go any further.

What was learned is that files are screw drivers.

sirhrmechanic · Dec 22, 2021

And that wrenches are hammers and screwdrivers are prybars and Vice grips are head rounders….

It all works!

pmclaine said:
Well after all that ....when I got it apart found that the plastic hub on the fan was broke and getting the motor spinning is useless because the old plastic dried/cracked so I gave it a try but not going to go any further.

What was learned is that files are screw drivers.

sea2summit · Dec 22, 2021

Mike Casselton said:
Small vise grip on the head. Should spin right off

Or take a drill with a key and clamp down on them.

sea2summit · Dec 22, 2021

jinxx4ever said:
grind them off, u dont need all them to put it back together anyway

Everyone hates leftover parts.

308guru · Dec 22, 2021

McMaster has the triangle drivers, and any others you want.

McMaster-Carr

McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.

www.mcmaster.com

pmclaine · Dec 23, 2021

mckeand13 said:
McMaster has the triangle drivers, and any others you want.

McMaster-Carr

McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.

www.mcmaster.com

Yeah first place I went. Had no idea how to measure size of driver based on the MC web page, where I did find measurements my calipers didn't seem to show the hardware I am dealing with correlated and right now I am not spending money on anything that is not critical life support.

Chances are I will never see a triangle screw ever again in my life.

pitspitr · Dec 23, 2021

sea2summit said:
Or take a drill with a key and clamp down on them.

OOO, Awesome Idea. I've always learned a lot on here. Just, who'd have know some of the things that other people can teach me

308pirate · Dec 23, 2021

Mike Casselton said:
Small vise grip on the head. Should spin right off

The head will likely be what spins off..........chinesium

pmclaine · Dec 23, 2021

308pirate said:
The head will likely be what spins off..........chinesium

Should I torque them to 9.36756789 inch pounds exactly?

Mr. Z · Dec 23, 2021

You should apply thread tension to that spec.

Jscb1b · Dec 23, 2021

pmclaine said:
Should I torque them to 9.36756789 inch pounds exactly?

1/4 turn past shear, then weld it.

GrumpyOleFart · Dec 30, 2021

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