Sidearms & Scatterguns Sig p220 SAO

[callen3615]

Hi, Im just curious to how popular these are? The majority of sigs I see are 226/229 or 220 all da/sa. I got a chance to shoot a friends 226 yesterday and loved it with it was in sa, i absolutely hate having 2 different trigger pulls tho. Im trying to get away from 1911s. I love the feel/sa trigger and I love 45acp but I just feel like the 1911 is outdated and id rather own something lower maintenance/ more reliable. Just sold my 1911 to get an m&p9 with apex parts, and I like it but an upgraded DA trigger will never be better than a SA trigger.

Thoughts?

 

[Veer_G]

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Hold off on infatuation with the 220 SAO until you try an HK45. SA <span style="font-style: italic">or</span> DA/SA and 10/1 rounds.

 

[callen3615]

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hot dammit

 

[callen3615]

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unfortunately i cant think of any shop that carrys hks, and im not dropping 1k without handling one.

 

[Veer_G]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body">unfortunately i cant think of any shop that carrys hks, and im not dropping 1k without handling one.
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Well, I love 229s just fine in 9MM and .357 SIG. 226s are a bit big to me, and I'm not big on the recoil of .45 ACP in the 220 (there's something about it that I can't quite put my finger on). But, it <span style="font-style: italic">is</span> a large frame SIG, and I get <span style="font-style: italic">that.</span> I don't blame you for not wanting to sight unseen a piece for $1K. Maybe someone in the area has an HK45, 45c, or a P30 (9MM but pretty similar) for you to handle? Admittedly, I did have to put an ambidextrous extension on the safety and Meprolight sights to get rid of the glo-paint ones, but it <span style="font-style: italic">is</span> a step (if a chunky one) beyond the 1911.

 

[callen3615]

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thanks for the help man, never really looked at euro guns.

 

[Veer_G]

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The round that's slightly low and right in the rest of the ragged mess was the first, DA. I dropped it a bit, mea culpa.

 

[callen3615]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The round that's slightly low and right in the rest of the ragged mess was the first, DA. I dropped it a bit, mea culpa.

</div></div>Nice, I miss that. I could do that all day with the 1911, alittle harder with a da trigger. It maybe cheaper to learn how to shoot the da.

 

[callen3615]

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Does that HK have interchangeable backstraps?

 

[Veer_G]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does that HK have interchangeable backstraps? </div></div>

Yes, indeed. I wish it also had interchageable side panels as well, but there are several outfits who do credible jobs on grip reductions. Check out a place called Bowie Tactical for their work.

 

[callen3615]

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I have no experience with them, my m&p comes with 3, small, medium, and large. I cant figure out which one I should use. I like the small or medium but the large puts my finger on the trigger just right. Should I choose based on comfort or ease of trigger manipulation?

 

[Veer_G]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience with them, my m&p comes with 3, small, medium, and large. I cant figure out which one I should use. I like the small or medium but the large puts my finger on the trigger just right. Should I choose based on comfort or ease of trigger manipulation? </div></div>

May I ask how you define "correct finger placement" with respect to part of finger on the trigger and the approximate attitude/angle of the index as it enters the trigger guard? This in itself is a source of debate among shooters. All in all, I would say that whatever is repeatable and makes POI/POA as close as possible should be the most important aim. An uncomfortable weapon in any case will not tend to lend itself to accurate fire.

 

[excess]

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To Veer's suggestion, I have an HK 45C and I love it.

 

[Sgt. 0811]

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I like the 220 SAO, unfortunatly they are hard to find

 

[callen3615]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience with them, my m&p comes with 3, small, medium, and large. I cant figure out which one I should use. I like the small or medium but the large puts my finger on the trigger just right. Should I choose based on comfort or ease of trigger manipulation? </div></div>

May I ask how you define "correct finger placement" with respect to part of finger on the trigger and the approximate attitude/angle of the index as it enters the trigger guard? This in itself is a source of debate among shooters. All in all, I would say that whatever is repeatable and makes POI/POA as close as possible should be the most important aim. An uncomfortable weapon in any case will not tend to lend itself to accurate fire. </div></div>

With the smaller grips my finger isnt flat against the trigger when it breaks, its canted at an angle. With the large grip I feel that my finger is perfectly flat on the face of the trigger when it breaks.

The problem is the m&ps trigger breaks toward the rear, the apex forward set trigger is supposed to move the triggers break point more forward, its also 160$.

 

[Veer_G]

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Also discussed here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_4/125618_...&anc=bottom

Ideally the finger should be flat against and perpindicular to the face of the trigger all the way through the backwards squeeze. The rise of flat-faced triggers seems to be an approach towards solving this on at least one end. The reality is that this is an <span style="font-style: italic">ideal.</span>

 

[callen3615]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also discussed here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_4/125618_...&anc=bottom

Ideally the finger should be flat against and perpindicular to the face of the trigger all the way through the backwards squeeze. The rise of flat-faced triggers seems to be an approach towards solving this on at least one end. The reality is that this is an <span style="font-style: italic">ideal.</span> </div></div>

Yeah, thats my thread. lol.

Thanks