Load work up and all groups are 1/4 or better. And 5 shot groups.
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Everything is sub moa with shitty ammo on fb. The AR grouos are horrendous. I cant even engage anymore
I stopped fakebook cold in 2016. I'm sure it cost me business bur I don't care. It's a scourge on our society. This nonsense just proves it further.
Post that tard a link to this thread. We need to talk
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"I shoot more rifles and ammunition in one day than most will in a lifetime"...
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"I shoot more rifles and ammunition in one day than most will in a lifetime"...
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....aaaaaand for his next post, he's going to link some bullshit off of arf.com
like anyone gives a shit what some fuckwit on facefuck has to say.
like anyone gives a shit what some fuckwit on facefuck has to say.
Assuming he/she is shooting a 22creedmoor like his *nick* ....
Does he/she know that .223-,224 bullets are about the same as the group size he/she is claiming ?
Is his/her action cerakoted in a rainbow color scheme ?
Just the standard deviations in bullet manufacturing would cause a larger than 1/4" group.
Does he/she know that .223-,224 bullets are about the same as the group size he/she is claiming ?
Is his/her action cerakoted in a rainbow color scheme ?
Just the standard deviations in bullet manufacturing would cause a larger than 1/4" group.
While he is indeed retarded, your comment shows you lack knowledge about how groups are measured.
Holes are measured outside edge to furthest opposite hole's outside edge. Then bullet diameter is subtracted from that number. This is why it is possible to have a smaller group size than the caliber used.
Hah. Funny you mention this. "Cost you business" by eliminating idiots and tyre kickers and letting you focus on actual paying jobs ?
If you measure the metrics, you may be surprised.
Funny that.
I thought groups were measured center to center ???
A 1/4" group would be nearly a single hole, all shots not only touching, but overlapping.
It would be about a dime size hole with 5 shots of .224 diameter rounds.
You can't possibly measure the outside of a hole since it will be ragged no matter how clean it seems.
This is only an example, I was working up loads, these are .308s from one of my AR10/AR308 rifles.
Measure using that lower left impact.....yea, that raggedy ass hole.
Simple, right ?
It's real simple.
Turn the paper over and push the torn areas back in place. Voliá! You have a round hole again.
Turn the paper back over and measure group size, outside to outside. Subtract one bullet diameter.
Disclaimer: the holes are actually a bit smaller than the bullet diameter.
If you really care, you can measure based on that number.
Another little life hack for measuring groups and having generally cleaner shot holes is to use 3M Super 77 spray adhesive to glue your targets to the backer. I didn’t come up with this but picked it up in a Pat McNamara class.
No more ragged edges on shot holes, targets last longer if you’re taping or pasting them, and the targets tend to stay on the backer a lot better in the wind than tape or staples. It’s also about 5X faster to put a target up.
Here is an example of what it does for cleaning up shot holes for scoring:
This group was either 6 or 7 rounds, and easily measurable.
No more ragged edges on shot holes, targets last longer if you’re taping or pasting them, and the targets tend to stay on the backer a lot better in the wind than tape or staples. It’s also about 5X faster to put a target up.
Here is an example of what it does for cleaning up shot holes for scoring:
This group was either 6 or 7 rounds, and easily measurable.
The best backer is a nice piece of stall matting or conveyer belt. Either one allows for nice, clean, round holes.
We all like nice, clean holes. Round is a bonus...
We all like nice, clean holes. Round is a bonus...
Yeah but, muh 3 oh hate tumbles past 75 yards. How do you measure them holes?
You could easily measure that group from inside of the bottom left hole to the outside of the top right hole. That would give you the center to center measurement without any math.
And while yes, it wouldn't be perfect down to the .001, it's more than close enough. Also, you can easily get a group smaller than 1/4 with .224 bullets. Attached is from a .22 arc group that is under .2 (not saying the FB guy is shooting 1/4 groups consistently, just that it's not hard to do or measure).
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Thats the one word that describes most social media.."scourge"
Measuring groups is easy with ballistic x
It’s $7.99
www.snipershide.com
Well worth it.
Vudoo yesterday :
It’s $7.99
Ballistic X - Group Size
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Vudoo yesterday :
Now you are debating and giving lessons on measuring groups . Even at the minimum age to join SH you should already know how to do that . You act like you are all on facebook . 
Now you are debating and giving lessons on measuring groups . Even at the minimum age to join SH you should already know how to do that . You act like you are all on facebook .
L poo
Yes but their leader is a slimy Harvard dropout with a god complex who has interfered in several elections, pushes pedo porn, gets rich selling illlegal shit, is in bed with China, has violated anti-trust and monopoly laws on 4 continents, kicked Hawaiians out of their homes so he could have a bigger 9th mansion, pushed vaxxes, is an Uber libtard and James-Bond-style-villain who wants whites exterminated, gulps Co2 in his fleet of jets, and spies on everything you type while selling your data to everyone.
Our leader is short.
Who would you follow anywhere?
Sirhr
Yes but their leader is a slimy Harvard dropout with a god complex who has interfered in several elections, pushes pedo porn, gets rich selling illlegal shit, is in bed with China, has violated anti-trust and monopoly laws on 4 continents, kicked Hawaiians out of their homes so he could have a bigger 9th mansion, pushed vaxxes, is an Uber libtard and James-Bond-style-villain who wants whites exterminated, gulps Co2 in his fleet of jets, and spies on everything you type while selling your data to everyone.
Our leader is short.
Who would you follow anywhere?
Sirhr
Yeah there's a lot of truth to that. The tire kickers I try to avoid like the plague so not having Facebook definitely helps keeping that to a minimum.
24 posts and there is disagreement about 5 different topics. Not a record, but a good start.
I'd follow most of you anywhere, the rest I'd have to lead since I'm sure they'd get lost in a one door hallway.
Facebook is gay. Sniper's Hide is less gay. I'll stick with the one with the midget leader who isn't a lizard person. Besides us short people stick together.
The world record for a 5 shot 100 yard group is .0077. Much smaller than the bullet diameter.
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AR or boltgun?
Measuring groups outside to outside and subtracting bullet diameter will give center to center measurement. Several different ways to get the same reading.
I think I still have a free download of Ballistic X on my laptop. Works great, worth $8 if I had to get it again.
The bear pit has better educated opinions than Facebook. BTW, the 22 Creedmoor group looks to be members only.
I think I still have a free download of Ballistic X on my laptop. Works great, worth $8 if I had to get it again.
The bear pit has better educated opinions than Facebook. BTW, the 22 Creedmoor group looks to be members only.
Don’t you have to be vaccinated to get onto FB?
Probably, but I'm not sure. And I'm not getting an account to find out.
Facebag also has groups dedicated to “people” who think they’re cats and shit in a little sandbox.
What is this Book of Faces? Something from Hannibal Lecter?
No just gay..that why I never had a account
R
Never had a Facebook either.
R
No, but he has a new video about breaking the steel target at his local range with a cold bore shot from his .338 Lapua. No action shot, just holding it in his hand.Must be that Overton guy again
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Wow, that sounds wrong.
Libro del viso..............Book of the face.
The group is .0077 over bullet diameter. The group he beat was shot by Mac McMillan which certified @ .009. Shot in 1973The world record for a 5 shot 100 yard group is .0077. Much smaller than the bullet diameter.
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