The two form 4’s were submitted 12/19/2023When submitted?
The form 1 was submitted 09/01/2023
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Create a channel Learn moreThe two form 4’s were submitted 12/19/2023When submitted?
So what happened?
Did the ATF hire a bunch of folks to process forms instead of assigning all new hires to shoot our dogs?
Funny how that works…frakin government.Rex Mg7 358 K, Idaho
Certified April 2023 approved January 24. It was 315 days total wait and I contacted my congressman at 310 days, 5 days later got the stamp.
All that means is that they supposedly found a record that requires more research, but since July???Surefire RC2 7.62
E form 4
Submitted: 7/26/23
Called to check status, was told I had a ‘Delayed NTN’. My local SOT told me to call back and ask for the delay date and to rerun the NICS check again. The NFA hotline lady said that they don’t see the delay dates nor can request a rerun of the NICS and I was better off calling the NICS division of the FBI… I’ve had three form 4’s get proceeds without a hitch.
How long can these delays go on for? Is there anything else I should be doing? I’ll admit ignorance in the world of NFA problem solving strategies. Seeing all these quick proceeds has me ancy!!!
Considering there shouldn't even be a wait time or a tax stamp, but that is the world we live in and doubt it will go away.Buddy of mine bought a 9mm can 11 days ago in Wichita Ks. He got an email today saying it was ready to be picked up.
11 Days!
Im so pissed. That lucky SOB. His Sandman before that....14 days
Hayden.
HOLY HELL BATMAN! NINETEEN (19) WORKING DAYS?Knights QDSSNT4
Individual
Submitted 1/23/2024
Approved 2/20/2024
19 business days
28 total days
Hell the guy that posted above says his took 6 days wtfHOLY HELL BATMAN! NINETEEN (19) WORKING DAYS?
DAAAYYYUUUMMMMM!
I remain hopeful that my eForm 4 submitted as a Trust on 10/03/23 will be approved soon...but not holding my breath (no desire to become a Smurf!).Hell the guy that posted above says his took 6 days wtf
Shocked me also... I just had an OCM5 take about 150days not a week ago. Got the email and the dealer hit me up.. Dealer just sent me a pic and said dude WTF!!!HOLY HELL BATMAN! NINETEEN (19) WORKING DAYS?
DAAAYYYUUUMMMMM!
Such a sad haiku!I have been waiting on two stamps.
Submitted in April of 2023.
On a trust.
Does anyone know what happens if you have a change of address during the wait period?
If so what is the recommended course of action that won't slow anything down?
In state individualIn state or out of state?
Individual or Trust/LLC/Entity?
Should be no problem, if you want do a 5320 after you pick it up you can.In state individual
Different county and Leo
There seems to be a marked difference between recent approval times and those that are still waiting for overlong periods.
I was told that they existed as serial numbers on F3s, as in still at the manufacturer.Wouldn’t the shop have to have it or get it from somewhere that physically had it because you need the serial number to put on the paperwork when it is done.
My delays at the local FFL, on a 4473, last 5-15 minutes before they call back.Surefire RC2 7.62
E form 4
Submitted: 7/26/23
Called to check status, was told I had a ‘Delayed NTN’. My local SOT told me to call back and ask for the delay date and to rerun the NICS check again. The NFA hotline lady said that they don’t see the delay dates nor can request a rerun of the NICS and I was better off calling the NICS division of the FBI… I’ve had three form 4’s get proceeds without a hitch.
How long can these delays go on for? Is there anything else I should be doing? I’ll admit ignorance in the world of NFA problem solving strategies. Seeing all these quick proceeds has me ancy!!!
Fucking ATF....its a pox on the body of America....what a bunch of jamokes
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And we pay for this shit...FFS
I submitted one on the 30th of last month and got the approval yesterday 2/24/24. Fastest one I’ve ever gotten.Should be no problem, if you want do a 5320 after you pick it up you can.
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Yeah, newer e-form applications seem to be going through hella fast, like 15 years ago kind of fast.
Thanks....but its still a broken link from the top return of a Google search for ATF e-form form 4
I was told that they existed as serial numbers on F3s, as in still at the manufacturer.
Keith
Pretty awesome. My fastest transfer on an individual paper F4 back in the day was around 6 weeks. Had one once with an error on the F4 but still turned it around in about 8 weeks. Back when USPS wasn't yet completely useless.I submitted one on the 30th of last month and got the approval yesterday 2/24/24. Fastest one I’ve ever gotten.
doubloon,This was a big problem a long time ago. FFL's selling cans not actually in their inventory. Occasionally people would receive a can with a serial number that didn't match the transfer.
For the most part dealer transfers get processed really fast. The questions that arise in these situations are wether or not the manufacturer actually has the finished product in stock or if it's just a serial number on an empty tube or maybe less. Then there's whatever shipping SNAFUs that may come up.
I'd ask which manufacturer and which dealer but until the issue is resolved it might make your issues worse to flame either one of them.
Sad to see this still happening.
Pretty awesome. My fastest transfer on an individual paper F4 back in the day was around 6 weeks. Had one once with an error on the F4 but still turned it around in about 8 weeks. Back when USPS wasn't yet completely useless.
doubloon,
The SOT is good to go.
I think that I read just what was intended into that post. But also say, solid advice.Thanks, my fault, I read more into that than there was but solid advice.
Same experience on 4473s. This was the first time I called the NFA hotline to ask about my status since I’ve seen so many wicked fast proceeds coming back. My first can took 93 days (certified at the beginning of the eform launch) then the next two took 8 months but that felt on par with everyone else. Not sure what necessitated a delay on this one, but it sure is frustrated seeing these quick proceeds haha!My delays at the local FFL, on a 4473, last 5-15 minutes before they call back.
My "delayed-ntn" status with NFA items, averages around 150 days . Not sure what the fuck they're doing over there; but it ain't hurrying. Waiting on 3 submitted 11/6.