Suppressors Form 4 wait time
Form 4 Individual filed 4/8, approved 4/11.
Form 4 Trust filed 12/15/23, approved 4/29/24
Form 4 Trust filed 12/15/23, approved 4/29/24
My mid January Trust submittal was approved right at 90 days or about 2 weeks ago. Pleasantly surprised. Good luck with yours.
Most recent 2, individuals, certify to approval:My buddy just got approved in 1 week
4 business days.
2 business days.
Not sure what's changed, but I bought a Suppressor at my LGS using the SilencerShop Kiosk ... and had NFA approval in 7 days. Suppressors used to take 6-to-8 months.
ATF trying to make politicians happy so they get "funding". If thousands are getting approved in 2-6 days VS the other thousands still taking 6-8 months, it would lower the avg wait to 3-4 months. I think when Eform was being proposed to legislation the ATF/FBI promised 6? months. 6 months was B.S. and politicians started asking them questions. This is just my guess anyways.
Hard to visualize Congress being that observant and planful ... but I guess it's possible. Most days, they can't find their own ass with both hands and a flashlight.
The American Suppressor Association worked with the ATF to streamline processing. Amazing that the ATF listened, and more amazing that they followed through.
Still can’t believe it. Are pigs flying yet?
Are Fast eForms Transfers Here To Stay? - American Suppressor Association
When it comes to suppressors, wait times suck! Since they were first regulated in 1934, delays associated with Form 4 processing have been a reality that the suppressor community has had to live with. For years, the American Suppressor Association has actively advocated for changes to the...
americansuppressorassociation.com How do you know when they have received your fingerprint cards?
Enticer STi
Submitted 12/15/23
Approved 5/1/24
Trust
Submitted 12/15/23
Approved 5/1/24
Trust
For us guys that recently got approved is there a signature of an ATF agent signing off on them? My approved stamp on 04.29.2024 says "Authorized NFA Division official" only. All of my stamps, even my 2 free SBR's had an actual name on the approved Form 4's and Form 1's.
I should have done that
I didn't know there was such an animal as the ASA.The American Suppressor Association worked with the ATF to streamline processing. Amazing that the ATF listened, and more amazing that they followed through.
Still can’t believe it. Are pigs flying yet?
Are Fast eForms Transfers Here To Stay? - American Suppressor Association
When it comes to suppressors, wait times suck! Since they were first regulated in 1934, delays associated with Form 4 processing have been a reality that the suppressor community has had to live with. For years, the American Suppressor Association has actively advocated for changes to the...
I might just look them up and see if I can throw a few bones their way.
Reward the good!
single or trust?
Single shot
that was my thoughts too esp in this age of social media.
The American Suppressor Association worked with the ATF to streamline processing. Amazing that the ATF listened, and more amazing that they followed through.
Still can’t believe it. Are pigs flying yet?
Are Fast eForms Transfers Here To Stay? - American Suppressor Association
When it comes to suppressors, wait times suck! Since they were first regulated in 1934, delays associated with Form 4 processing have been a reality that the suppressor community has had to live with. For years, the American Suppressor Association has actively advocated for changes to the...
Thanks for the info guys! I'm ashamed to say I wasn't a paying member before, but am now. I'd way rather support people like this who get things done than Fudds like the NRA.
Filed my KGM R65 with a trust on Feb 6 and just got approved today. 86 days from filing to approval.
Well, there’s hope for me and my trust yet!
Existing trust. I was going to call it a "standard" trust but I'm an admitted newbie with NFA items and I'm sure that's not what it's called. It was a trust setup by an attorney specifically for the purpose of owning suppressors and SBRs.
I'm also the only responsible party on the trust.
Ha! Awesome! That describes my situation too. Man o’ man would it be cool to get my can in three months.
Although even three months is pathetically slow.
I was going to just go individual and transfer it into my trust (for another $200) but I got lazy as Silencer Shop defaults to using my existing trust.
It costs another $200 to add to an existing trust?! Ooof
from an individual to a trust, because its a different entity has to transfer on a form 4, so $200
Practically any time it changes ownership you have the $200 fee. Even if that owner is you and your transfer it to your trust.
That's why you put up with the wait of a trust. I don't want to give them more than I have too.Dumb! Haven't they taken enough of my money
I really didn't need to see this.
Yup!Dumb! Haven't they taken enough of my money
However, you COULD also think of it like a "savings":
Tax stamps started in 1934, I believe, and remained $200 (excluding AOW's).
So, adjusting for inflation each $200 stamp you own could cost you roughly $4,600. Each. Today.
If ATF kept up with the devaluation of the dollar...
Thanks ATF!
/sarc
Congress, not ATF. The dollar amount was set by law. The ATF has nothing to do with it other than administer the tax with the transfer forms. That is why the ATF was, up until the "War on Terror" reorganizations, within the Treasury Department. They were a revenue agency. Alcohol, tobacco, firearms, all have excise taxes.
That is where they should be still.
Anyone seen updated times on Form 4 from a trust to a class 3 dealer? Wondering if this is also speeding up the first leg of out of state purchases on used supressors.
Trust Form 4
Certified 12/17/23
Approved 5/2/24
Certified 12/17/23
Approved 5/2/24
Individual
Submitted 4/02/24
Approved 4/20/24
Just submitted another one
Individual 5/2/24
Approved ....5/5/24
Submitted 4/02/24
Approved 4/20/24
Just submitted another one
Individual 5/2/24
Approved ....5/5/24
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