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Night Vision Thermal, scope one and done. reaper IR 60?

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So, if your ready to go with a high end thermal for a weapon scope. I am about to pull the trigger on a Trijicon Reap-IR 60. It will be for hog and coyotes out 120 shooting with 250+ scanning.
am I good to go?
Thank you, in advance
 
The 60mm has FOV 7 degrees, the 35mm has FOV 12 degrees. If you are in "closer" terrain ... i.e. pastures with tree lines 200-400yds away ... then you might also consider the 35mm. The plus is that if you are facing a field of multiple sounders and especially if shooting suppressed, after the first volley, the ones that are still standing might run in ANY direction ... and that extra FOV is nice to pick up the runners on the edge of your FOV.
The 60s strength is longer distance scanning out to 500-1000yds or more. The 35s strength of wider FOV for closer in.
So the answer depends on your average terrain and how often you'll be facing fields of multiple sounders.
 
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The 60 with 4.5x native mag might get a little tight inside 100 yds on multiple running hogs. The 35 with 2.5x native would provide more FOV.

If I were concentrating mainly on hogs at closer ranges with an occasional coyote thrown in then I’d go with a 35. However if main focus was coyotes I’d definitely go with a 60.

Also might make sure you’re ok with the Reap’s joystick over the MK III’s knobs. The Reap is smaller, lighter and purely badass but I’ve known some who disliked its joystick and opted for the MK III b/c they much preferred the knob controls. Ultimately it’s a personal preference thang- both units are top of food chain.

ETA: I see Wig posted a similar response while I was typing mine...
 
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I have both and I prefer the 60 mm for most of my hog hunting. Most of my shots are 50 yards or more. For closer moving targets you might want to consider the 35 mm. Both are very nice.
 
I would go with N-Vision HALO-LR 50mm. I have owned both the REAP 35mm and the Halo 25mm, and I can say with confidence that the Halo is not only a better value (several thousand cheaper), it is an all around better optic (including image clarity). Plus it has a better warranty on the internals. The price that you'll pay for a HALO-LR 50mm 3.5x optical magnification will be less than what the REAP 35mm costs.
 
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As others have mentioned: It all depends on your hunting environment/shooting situation. For MY hunting scenarios, 80% of the time I want/need FOV. It's one thing to try and hunt with a high mag optic during the day when you still have situational awareness by using your other eye or lifting your head off the scope, but at night you're going to be severely limited and generally relying on what you see through the thermal scope.

Also, I find that I can generally get closer to animals at night for various reasons. So you need to really ask yourself if your HAVE to take long range shots or if you can just stalk and get closer (Or in the case of predator calling, continue to call and work the animal to get closer.)
 
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jstokes1 said:
I would go with N-Vision HALO-LR 50mm. I have owned both the REAP 35mm and the Halo 25mm, and I can say with confidence that the Halo is not only a better value (several thousand cheaper), it is an all around better optic (including image clarity). Plus it has a better warranty on the internals. The price that you'll pay for a HALO-LR 50mm 3.5x optical magnification will be less than what the REAP 35mm costs.
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Where are you seeing this for "several thousand cheaper"?
 
@HkPlinker Here are some comparison pictures for you I took last night of some deer at roughly 75 yards away. First picture is with a IR-Patrol, second pic is with a REAP-35.
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Both pics were taken using base magnification. As you can tell there is quite a difference in f.o.v. between the two. You will notice a similar loss between the 35mm and the 60mm.
To me the 35mm is the sweet spot if you have a wide range of distances and terrain types you will be hunting. I have ran a 60 coyote hunting and it was great for PID and shooting at longer distances but the f.o.v. loss really sucked when we would hunt a smaller field like the one in the pics.
 
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jstokes1 said:
A 60mm Reap IR cost $9500... and the HALO LR cost $7495. The Halo is a better optic and is I fact 2 grand cheaper. What don't you understand about that? The 35mm REAP is 8k, which is still more expensive than the HALO LR.
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There's no need for you to go off cocky. I asked a simple question. First, most people interpret a couple to mean "two". Few ="three". Several = "four". So I was looking for you to post a listed price around $5500 max. So it's really just $7500 for the Halo? I can get a 60mm REAP for $7500....
Boom...
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And I don't care about your perceived qualitative difference between the two. That wasn't the question I asked. When you stated "several thousand cheaper" I was asking you where you could get a HALO $4k cheaper than the 60mm REAP.
What don't you understand about that?
 
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Here's an idea you might like.
Rent one until you find just what YOU want/need.
The rental fees can be used towards purchase.

Rentals - Ultimate Night Vision

Night vision and thermal scope rentals for night hunting, pre-purchase evaluation and more. We ship thermal night vision rentals nation-wide and can have a rental sent out same-day in most cases.
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That is a good idea.

Ultimate Night Vision is who I rented mine from from trying to determine what I liked better.

It wasn't exactly cheap cheap to do so, but way more cost effective than buying a new Reap-IR, etc.
 
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I have hunted with all the Trijicon options and I would only get the 60mm if 80% of your shots are past 200 yards. The 35mm will be much more enjoyable if 80% of your shots are 50–150 yards. 4.5x power doesn’t sound like much, but it is definitely too much at closer distances and hard to find the target. I actually end up zooming the 35mm to a similar effective 5x for a lot of shots, but most of the time I leave it at base mag of 2.5x. This is coming from someone who prefers a lot of mag during the day for 100 yard shots. However, too much mag at night is a hindrance assuming normal hunting distance of 50-150 yards. Past 200 yards at night is a long ways.
 
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mirage98 said:
As others have mentioned: It all depends on your hunting environment/shooting situation. For MY hunting scenarios, 80% of the time I want/need FOV. It's one thing to try and hunt with a high mag optic during the day when you still have situational awareness by using your other eye or lifting your head off the scope, but at night you're going to be severely limited and generally relying on what you see through the thermal scope.

Also, I find that I can generally get closer to animals at night for various reasons. So you need to really ask yourself if your HAVE to take long range shots or if you can just stalk and get closer (Or in the case of predator calling, continue to call and work the animal to get closer.)
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Interesting you mentioned getting closer. Two years ago my goal was to take a large boar at over 200 meters. Well with a lot of field time and learning their patterns I was able to accomplish that. Actually with the right amount of practice 200m is not that difficult. Now I find myself torn in two directions. Reach out farther or. See how close you can get. Set up a position that gives you the advantage. Its all about the wind and being silent. Being at ground level with these hogs after dark in the swamp is no joke. I had no idea how freaking high energy spooking hogs out at 25 meters was. Good God talk about a spike in you heart rate.
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The hog whisperer
 
i have a reap 35mm. i have used the 60 reap and mk3. i think they are great units but i also use my reap as double duty scanner at times and shoot with a clip on on my rifle. i feel the 35mm is truly the sweet spot for how ans where i hunt in ohio with big open fields. i can pick up yotes out to 900-1k pretty easily in my reap. i wont say that the physical id is there at that range but typically if you are seasoned you can id through mannerisms and movement. when i run the reap as a primary on the gun it works perfectly to detect then bump up one off base mag to shoot. you really dont loose much in resolution doing that on the reap. i feel sometimes with thermal less is more in terms of magnification.
 
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Killswitch Engage said:
i have a reap 35mm. i have used the 60 reap and mk3. i think they are great units but i also use my reap as double duty scanner at times and shoot with a clip on on my rifle. i feel the 35mm is truly the sweet spot for how ans where i hunt in ohio with big open fields. i can pick up yotes out to 900-1k pretty easily in my reap. i wont say that the physical id is there at that range but typically if you are seasoned you can id through mannerisms and movement. when i run the reap as a primary on the gun it works perfectly to detect then bump up one off base mag to shoot. you really dont loose much in resolution doing that on the reap. i feel sometimes with thermal less is more in terms of magnification.
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Thank you. Good info
 
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I’ve ran both the 35mm and 60mm quite a bit hog and coyote hunting. I wouldn’t even consider the 60 until most shots are past 200. 200 yds shots with the 35mm REAP are still easy. The scanning ability is much better as most have already stated.
 
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