Not any longer, I do like the right side folding option on the AXWill you be using rifle on barricades and bags?
If not, IMO, the bone stock AT with folder is the best practical/tactical field on the planet.
Not any longer, I do like the right side folding option on the AXWill you be using rifle on barricades and bags?
If not, IMO, the bone stock AT with folder is the best practical/tactical field on the planet.
Not any longer, I do like the right side folding option on the AX
The AT-X will ship with a 4 groove cut rifle barrel in 6.5 Creedmoor manufactured by AI in Portsmouth, UK.
Barrels supplied in the US are finished at WIN Tactical from contoured blanks supplied by Bartlein. We have been using Bartlein blanks for about 10 years in the U.S. and will continue to do so.
The interior diameter of the forend bridges is 1.300". The bridge will clear a 1.250" diameter barrel. As Jorge has noted, running a no taper 1.250" barrel may not be the best approach and we did not intend to design the rifle to such extremes. The channel weights, when installed, will also clear a 1.250" barrel. The AI barrel is 1.220" at the breach end and .950 at the muzzle. The weight of the finished 6.5 CM barrel at 24" is 5.8 lbs. So, it's very close to the "M24/M40" profile in finished weight.
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I think 1.250" might be too big and not allow enough clearance for barrel whip/vibration if the fore end is 1.3" wide. I think it would be o.k. but might be on the tight side.@Frank Green
Frank, how much clearance would you recommend?
I have a BB 1.25” blank. Gonna toss it in the lathe and just turn it to a smaller straight.
1.20, 1.15 or something smaller?
I have the following items for sale for the ATX, all items are brand new in the box and have never been
I have to admit, when I first read your post I was thinking "Why is he buying wrenches for his ex-wife?"I’m working on a “kit” for the X. Basically all the tools you need to disassemble and reassemble as well as tork it all down.
Getting T handle stuff for coarse work, and fix it sticks for the torque.
I’ll update with pics and complete list once it’s assembled this week.
I have to admit, when I first read your post I was thinking "Why is he buying wrenches for his ex-wife?"
Really interested in this, I was thinking of doing the same. Look forward to seeing your setup and list.I’m working on a “kit” for the X. Basically all the tools you need to disassemble and reassemble as well as tork it all down.
Getting T handle stuff for coarse work, and fix it sticks for the torque.
I’ll update with pics and complete list once it’s assembled this week.
Really interested in this, I was thinking of doing the same. Look forward to seeing your setup and list.
Shot my new ATX for the first time today. Unfortunately I had feeding issues with 6.5 CM. Using the magazine that shipped with the gun and others that I already own. Push up on the mag and it feeds. Bolt now rides over an empty magazine, was the geometry changed specifically to allow that?
I've dozen of mags, am I suppose to send them all in and get them re-worked/exchanged for the ATX's? Why lower the mag in relationship to the bolt where you get these ride overs and no feeding. None of these same magazines have feeding issues in the many other AI's I own.
What's the likelihood with reworked magazines over time they will spread @ the lips/upper body and the problem returns?
By the way, even with the feeding distractions it shot lights out. Love the trigger. Got to get those folding hinges out!
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Thanks Scott, what about ability to buy fully adjustable DE stock?Hinge kits will start shipping from AINA to the distributors next week.
-Scott
Been following this for a while, I own an AT with an interest in getting an AT-X in the future, great guns and historically without equal.They decided they want it to ride over. Pretty much all the explanation needed.
The body of the mag seems to have been the issue on a lot of mags and they are fixing them. I wouldn’t expect the body of the mag to change over time.
Personally I’m getting six AX mags that feed properly. Three will be used and the other three will sit on the shelf or in the case in the event of issues arising. I already do this with any other mag as you never know when you’ll drop one or something goes wrong.
As always, proper preparation and contingencies alleviate almost all problems.
Been following this for a while, I own an AT with an interest in getting an AT-X in the future, great guns and historically without equal.
Just to summarize. On the AT-X, AI wanted the bolts to override the magazine follower on an empty magazine so they change the chassis geometry and therefore created a potential feed issue and now it is a magazine problem?
Happy to be corrected.
I don't think so based on Scott's comments in IM and I think here, there was discussion at AI and disagreement on if the bolt should be stopped by the follower or ride over it.
This is my only AI so I can't confirm behavior on other platforms with the same mags.
Bought my AX in 2018 and the bolt never stopped on any empty mags. But it never had a feeding issue either like the AT-X.The bolt stops on the AX and AT. It doesn’t on the AT-X. Have owned and still have several here. You have to notch the rear inside corner of the follower for an AT or AX bolt to ride over an empty mag.
So, either the geometry/height was changed, or mags were changed. And it wasn’t the mags AFAIK.
My 2015 ax doesn’t eitherBought my AX in 2018 and the bolt never stopped on any empty mags. But it never had a feeding issue either like the AT-X.
If I understand you correctly, you would like the short bridge to be able to came back to the receiver with no gap as on the full length bridge?@Scott Seigmund
Small suggesting for future short nvg rail production:
Keep the rear the same length and contour as the long rail. I picked up a short to run 1.25” without turning barrel to 1.20. Since the only part that touches is further away from action during recoil.
The area where there is a gap is where I rest my thumb at times when grabbing front of rail.
I’d imagine others do as well. Not a huge deal. But seems like easy way to give end user more mounting options.
If this was already mentioned, I apologize. There’s a ton of posts here and I may have missed it.
It was disappointing to find the short bridge had a gap.If I understand you correctly, you would like the short bridge to be able to came back to the receiver with no gap as on the full length bridge?
-Scott
NO! The magazine positioning in the AT-X mirrors that of the AX. I stated in an earlier post that the bolt may or may not hold open on an empty magazine on the AT-X and AX series rifles. This is dependent primarily on the magazine. Some will hold the bolt open and some will not.Been following this for a while, I own an AT with an interest in getting an AT-X in the future, great guns and historically without equal.
Just to summarize. On the AT-X, AI wanted the bolts to override the magazine follower on an empty magazine so they change the chassis geometry and therefore created a potential feed issue and now it is a magazine problem?
Happy to be corrected.
The short bridge was always intended to be used in the middle to forward positions. If a zero gap is desired, the full length bridge will give you that.It was disappointing to find the short bridge had a gap.
More accurately a lack of agreement.I don't think so based on Scott's comments in IM and I think here, there was discussion at AI and disagreement on if the bolt should be stopped by the follower or ride over it.
This is my only AI so I can't confirm behavior on other platforms with the same mags.
The short bridge was always intended to be used in the middle to forward positions. If a zero gap is desired, the full length bridge will give you that.
-Scott
NO! The magazine positioning in the AT-X mirrors that of the AX. I stated in an earlier post that the bolt may or may not hold open on an empty magazine on the AT-X and AX series rifles. This is dependent primarily on the magazine. Some will hold the bolt open and some will not.
The feeding problem is well covered in previous posts.
-Scott
I have a AXMC with a 6.5CM and 300win mag barrels, mags, and bolt combo. None of my mags induce bolt stop. Never have and I have owned the rifle since brand new for 7 years. I have about 10 mags in total (5 each). So I have been following this thread thinking are all 10 of my mags out of spec? Never have had any feeding issues whatsoever so it hasn’t been a problem.The bolt stops on the AX and AT. It doesn’t on the AT-X. Have owned and still have several here. You have to notch the rear inside corner of the follower for an AT or AX bolt to ride over an empty mag.
So, either the geometry/height was changed, or mags were changed. And it wasn’t the mags AFAIK.
I have a AXMC with a 6.5CM and 300win mag barrels, mags, and bolt combo. None of my mags induce bolt stop. Never have and I have owned the rifle since brand new for 7 years. I have about 10 mags in total (5 each). So I have been following this thread thinking are all 10 of my mags out of spec? Never have had any feeding issues whatsoever so it hasn’t been a problem.
I have a AXMC with a 6.5CM and 300win mag barrels, mags, and bolt combo. None of my mags induce bolt stop. Never have and I have owned the rifle since brand new for 7 years. I have about 10 mags in total (5 each). So I have been following this thread thinking are all 10 of my mags out of spec? Never have had any feeding issues whatsoever so it hasn’t been a problem.
Thank you. Any chance anyone know if there will be back orders?To anyone (I remember someone here was) that was asking about the chassis, this was just posted on their Facebook page. Says August.
You aren't the first person I've heard say this, what about the AT/AW stock is so good for field shooting?Will you be using rifle on barricades and bags?
If not, IMO, the bone stock AT with folder is the best practical/tactical field on the planet.
You aren't the first person I've heard say this, what about the AT/AW stock is so good for field shooting?
I'd have thought a chassis would perform every bit as well.
No disagreeing, curious to know your thoughts.
I think it's a cost/benefit argument he's making. If you're not shooting off a lot of props, then an AT/AW will serve just as well (not any better), and it can be had used, to lower the cost.You aren't the first person I've heard say this, what about the AT/AW stock is so good for field shooting?
I'd have thought a chassis would perform every bit as well.
No disagreeing, curious to know your thoughts.
I can certainly appreciate that but I got the impression you think the AT is better as a field rifle than the AT-X, am I miss reading your post or is there something inherently different in a field rifle vs a comp rifle in your opinion?More maneuverable and lower center of gravity than the AX without the hump in front of magwell.
I'm going to start a new thread to save derailing this one.I think there's a some cross talk here...
LOL! that's not what I meant (sorry if it came off that way). What I meant to say more succinctly, was that Fenix thinks the AT-X rides better on barricades because of the lower CoG (which it does). I suspect Fenix's definition of "field shooting" equates to "field course of fire" (though I may be completely off) and means barricades, tripods, cow feeder fences, etc.. And your definition of field shooting is laying on your belly (right?).I'm going to start a new thread to save derailing this one.