Do you know what fixed models first?DLO Live! Ep 63 New SWFA Scopes, New US Sanctions and other festivities
New SWFA scopes will be out soon enough, so it is time to have a little bit more of a discussion. In addition, US issues new sanctions today that have ramif...youtube.com
Revamped fixed power scopes are coming this summer in all likelihood.
Other models after that, but I do not know the exact schedule.
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10x first. It is the non-HD model. I think they are release all the fixed power models close to each other.Do you know what fixed models first?
I'm guessing 6x and 10x?
And the 10x being a replacement of the non-HD model?
Not sure I like these reticles TBH.I've wanted a mil Christmas tree reticle SWFA 10x with zero stops and covered (optional, apparently) windage for a long time, this is good news.
What is the value of the dots between the diamonds?Screenshot of the reticle for quick reference. I personally don’t mind it. Would like to see a fully different optic though and not these older designs. A mil based 2.5-10x32 with an adjustable elevation turret, “HD” glass, and a 30mm maintube would kill.
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I think .2. Edge of diamond is .2, each dot .4-.6, edge diamond .8.What is the value of the dots between the diamonds?
-Stan
That makes sense.I think .2. Edge of diamond is .2, each dot .4-.6, edge diamond .8.
For what purpose?I've wanted a mil Christmas tree reticle SWFA 10x with zero stops and covered (optional, apparently) windage for a long time, this is good news.
Well then post the list of better40 year old tech. What's not to love.
Who is actually buying this shit? You can get a full featured scope for under 500 bucks today. It will have better glass better internals and better features.
Just about everything made oem for the likes of vortex, Athlon, Burris, ect.Well then post the list of better
Explain how a 40 year old design out of Japan is better than a brand new design out of China with everything that has been learned in modern manufacturing and materials science? A modern Chinese scope for 400 bucks is better than anything leupold made 40 years ago, or any American made optic.
This is just another example of people living in the past and regurgitating shitty advice that they heard from somewhere else. No different than the casuals who still think AI and S&B are the pinnicale of the industry becuase they played counter strike in the 90s.
Many chinese OEMs have improved dramatically, but this not a very high tech market. Assembly quality is still assembly quality.everything that has been learned in modern manufacturing and materials science
I’m not comparing. I said to list better.Just about everything made oem for the likes of vortex, Athlon, Burris, ect.
Your comparing them to a fixed power 10x that was speced like 50 years ago to NSW...tasco won the contract due to retardation and had low make the optic. The Navy bought hardly any of them so SWFA started selling the design. At the time there were not many good inexpensive scopes ( under 300) so they SS was popular in the 90s and early 2000s as a starter scope. Today even the cheap scopes have features that back then would have cost you thousands. ( FFP, matching turrets, zero stop, adjustable side parralax, illumination, ect). These are a dated design with subpar glass that thrives in a market with no real competition. Today a strike eagle or venom ffp will blow them out of the water. It's not a knock on the SWFA, it's just a dated design and they sat on their ass and stopped improving them 15 years ago. The little 3-9 and 3-15 were decent scopes but the glass sucked and they feel like a Walmart toy compared to a modern optic.
Are you poor and limited to a sub $500 scope?
Do you like being stuck on one magnification?
Do you not want things like zero stop or illumination?
Do you want to ignore the rest of the market?
Then sure swfa fixed 10x may be the right choice for you.
You're getting dangerously close there to the old "Hey, it's MIL-spec so it must be the best!" fallacy. Even though their fixed-power scopes originated in a government spec, SWFA doesn't make scopes for dot.gov and never has, as far as I know. Try to wrap your head around the possibility that a lot of shooters might desire characteristics in a scope that you (perhaps) don't value much, such as a no-frills design, very good build quality and solid, repeatable performance at a budget price. We don't all need or want a lot of bells and whistles in our scopes.I can't say I am very interested but I am curious. I was certainly hoping for more than some lip stick on a pig. But hey it's a party. But seriously though, will these even still meet specs for the military contract?