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Boris and Nigel delivered

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    We should be pro Europe, but not pro European Union
    I believe we've now set an example for our friends, right across the continent
    I want a Europe of free, sovereign, democratic nations
    I will trade with them, will work with them, will cooperate with them
    We'll have reciprocity

    But we...will...NOT....TAKE ORDERS FROM THEM!

    I think you just saw the start of Nigel Farage's run to become Prime Minister of the UK
     
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    The next best option for immigrants to flood into will be? Germany is already hemorrhaging Moose-limbs and France has been overloaded for years. Where do they go? The EU can keep their grand social experiment I feel for those who are subject to Brussels and don't want to be. Congratulations Brits you just unshackled from the anchor of La Berlaymont aka the blood sucking leech.
     
    Chalk up another win for people taking back their nation's sovereign power.

    The EU will remain untenable as long as it attempts to provide fiscal and legal unity without political unity.
     
    Remember these ads folks put up on bilboards in UK



    GRU DIRECTIVE no. 14,214: "Make smiles on miserable faces of Tiny Island". #proudbear

    GRU Poster SPETSNAZ team is TODAY bringing MESSAGE of 2016 #Brexit referendum OPERATION to people of MANCHESTER! Together we make SO MUCH WINNING!

     
    We'll see.
    Have followed this cluster since the vote.
    Maybe the yellow vests are paying attention.
    Are you listening Le Pen and Salvini?

    R

    This will cause some serious bowel backup in France.

    The old rivalries with Britain will cause many to want to join them in their sovereignty.

    I think the little dutch kid has all 11 appendages filling leaks in the dike but the walls are continuing to strain.
     
    EU is an in foremost still an economic union and far from any 'political unity' , the EU problem is that thousands of burocrats have cushy jobs and retirement package and want more power ,but realisticaly EU can not work as any sort of united states of europe , that will not happen ever EU is far to diverse for that .

    UK will remain tighty bound to EU for economics reasons (and continue paying for market access), US is not realy a partner that can offer any thing to UK that rivals EU common market. UK services sector will not make it in US .US doesnt need additional tax havens , shady banks US has Wall Street for that doesn't need the City. So time will tell if and how far off EU , UK moves and if it ends up better off.

    As for things improving on the ground? same issues will remain as they are not realy EU related. Remember most restrictive on guns , plastic knives , round tip knives ,cctv on every corner ,murder ratest on the rise , muslim pedophile grooming gangs, that is UK and issues that come from imports from 3rd world shitholes UK used to run and from being a brothel and party location for arab world.
     
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    We'll see.
    Have followed this cluster since the vote.
    Maybe the yellow vests are paying attention.
    Are you listening Le Pen and Salvini?

    R
    something like 11% of native french now think that recent immigration has been good for the country,
     
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    Remember these ads folks put up on bilboards in UK



    GRU DIRECTIVE no. 14,214: "Make smiles on miserable faces of Tiny Island". #proudbear

    GRU Poster SPETSNAZ team is TODAY bringing MESSAGE of 2016 #Brexit referendum OPERATION to people of MANCHESTER! Together we make SO MUCH WINNING!


    Are you implying there was Russian collusion to get Brexit?

    R
     
    Nope its was just a funny campaign by desperate anti-brexiters ,that wanted a US style Russiagate to kickoff in UK to distract the mases. https://twitter.com/pr0ud_bear?lang=en

    A bit later they added this to the posts.
    ''
    Why are people of United England not clapping us with loudness?? Why is there no English Lady or Gentleman like Captain Robert Swan Mueller III to help make us famous like in United America??

    We don’t know the reasons. So we are asking YOU - friends in Britain - to pay for NATIONAL BILLBOARD FUN to celebrate our together success. Maybe then the Lady in Downing Street will say YES to an investigation to prove our fruit-laden collaboration.''

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    "Political Unity" is of course the end game.......

    Uniting the EU under a limited federal government wouldn't be the worst idea. I have no desire to live there, and I think the concept would be much better than reality, but it could happen with the right leadership.

    The current situation is just not workable, and Brexit is simply the first domino to fall.

    Congrats to the Brits for seeing this process through.
     
    Uniting the EU under a limited federal government wouldn't be the worst idea. I have no desire to live there, and I think the concept would be much better than reality, but it could happen with the right leadership.

    The current situation is just not workable, and Brexit is simply the first domino to fall.

    Congrats to the Brits for seeing this process through.


    In order to unite europe you have to have all those nasty things the globalists rail against in the USA.........

    Homogeneity, Unity of goals, E Pluribus Unum, and end to diversity.

    If you give the people a commonality than they become strong.

    The globalists cant have that. Division, fighting your battles piece meal gives the tyrants strength.

    The only way the Eu succeeds in the way the plan is common language, common culture, common goals.

    I think thats why they are importing muslims.


    Muslims provide a commonality with the idea of being a slave.
     
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    In regards to muslim imports there are couple of factors in play

    EU is in great place to live, prosperous ,free ,with good paying jobs,shools,healthcare,pensions ,social security ,low crime rates .
    EU attracts economic imgrants like US due to above reasons , folks want to move from shitholes to prospering countries, but unlike US , EU realy has a generous social support system ,that is also one of the atractions that is being exploited by the imigrants.


    US regime change wars create a constant stream of refuges the influx from Iraq,Syria and Afghanistan ,Kosovo constantly represent mayor immigrant groups and represent well over 50% of these imports.

    UK and France in delusions of past imperial and colonial grandeur ferment their own wars and like US support whole bunch of inept dictators and cleptocrats troughout ME and Africa in order to exploit natural resources and oloaf weapons, both also cater to host of goatfucker 'royalty' in turn most for these countries continue to be economicaly challenged shitholes with no real prospects of them getting better further fueling immigration. Its kinda ironic for UK to go bananas over migration when its realy much down to its dealings in the world and imperial past.

    And then there is Germany an industrial super power that suffers manpower shortage since ww1 and ww2 decimated much of their population. Allied soldiers simply did not father enough kids in Germany for them to recover.

    Germany for decades had offical policy of importing Gastabeiter(guest workers) first waves the were Greeks,Spaniards,Portugese,Italian , second wave they had to expand to Yugoslavs and Turks ,Maroccans etc. creation of EU and enlagment to the east was the next step as it enabled Germans, Italians,Britons to plunder the east of its workers Poles ,Balts,Romanians,Bulgarians migrated in milions ,stagering mumbers as some of these couries had up to 20% of population move west. For some of these like the Poland , Ukraine war and economic colapse are the best thing they could ever hope for so they can fill their jobs without importing from asia (they were lookign to start imports from Philipines)
    Aside from Eastern Europe and post Soviet states ,rest of the world in about 1000mile radius is Muslim.

    The last big move the import of 2mio muslims most in 2015 past is first down to US wars that generate this lot and Germans being a bit naive to usefulness of these imports. Now things are far from levels of 2015 as Germans realised this group is bunch of useles wankers , poorely educated not of much use to German economy so muslim import is for couple of years now more or less closed down to minimal levels.
     
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    In regards to muslim imports there are couple of factors in play

    EU is in great place to live, prosperous ,free ,with good paying jobs,shools,healthcare,pensions ,social security ,low crime rates .
    EU attracts economic imgrants like US due to above reasons , folks want to move from shitholes to prospering countries, but unlike US , EU realy has a generous social support system ,that is also one of the atractions that is being exploited by the imigrants.


    US regime change wars create a constant stream of refuges the influx from Iraq,Syria and Afghanistan ,Kosovo constantly represent mayor immigrant groups and represent well over 50% of these imports.

    UK and France in delusions of past imperial and colonial grandeur ferment their own wars and like US support whole bunch of inept dictators and cleptocrats troughout ME and Africa in order to exploit natural resources and oloaf weapons, both also cater to host of goatfucker 'royalty' in turn most for these countries continue to be economicaly challenged shitholes with no real prospects of them getting better further fueling immigration. Its kinda ironic for UK to go bananas over migration when its realy much down to its dealings in the world and imperial past.

    And then there is Germany an industrial super power that suffers manpower shortage since ww1 and ww2 decimated much of their population. Allied soldiers simply did not father enough kids in Germany for them to recover.

    Germany for decades had offical policy of importing Gastabeiter(guest workers) first waves the were Greeks,Spaniards,Portugese,Italian , second wave they had to expand to Yugoslavs and Turks ,Maroccans etc. creation of EU and enlagment to the east was the next step as it enabled Germans, Italians,Britons to plunder the east of its workers Poles ,Balts,Romanians,Bulgarians migrated in milions ,stagering mumbers as some of these couries had up to 20% of population move west. For some of these like the Poland , Ukraine war and economic colapse are the best thing they could ever hope for so they can fill their jobs without importing from asia (they were lookign to start imports from Philipines)
    Aside from Eastern Europe and post Soviet states ,rest of the world in about 1000mile radius is Muslim.

    The last big move the import of 2mio muslims most in 2015 past is first down to US wars that generate this lot and Germans being a bit naive to usefulness of these imports. Now things are far from levels of 2015 as Germans realised this group is bunch of useles wankers , poorely educated not of much use to German economy so muslim import is for couple of years now more or less closed down to minimal levels.
    Britain , France and the US caused Regime change in Libya. Kosovo was already in the middle of a bloody civil war . The US did not cause the refugees . And thirdly quit suckin the smart outta the pit .
     
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    and have they left yet ? bluster is nice action is better .
     
    Even the polacks?

    Creek. Im not sure many of the Brits like the Poles. You see, Poles tend to be smart, hard working, and conservative. So those who wanted out of EU probably like them.
    They are also willing to start out working shit jobs (at least my experience here in CO) and show their brain and hard work and move up.

    My ex wife is a Polish immigrant. Stiff and cold (among other “non-wife” qualities that didnt show up in dating) but damn she is smart and a hard worker. And always votes against any socialist ideas. She grew up with that shit. And hates it.
     
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    @powdahound76, interesting about the Poles and while I've not known any directly this corresponds to everything I've read.

    In the past, I've worked with a guy from Russia (he has been US Citizen since something like 1997) so he was one of first to get out. He'd tell me stories about the lines to get bread, then there would be no bread. One day in 2012 a discussion came up about obama and romney. He declared he voted for obama in 2008. I was like ..."HOW could YOU of all people have voted for that guy, knowing what socialism brings?" Response....well, you didn't give me any choice with that old, out of touch guy." I really had no argument at that point.

    Another guy from Bangladesh, came here with 500 bucks...worked his way through school, ended up with a Master's in Engineering, and is successful - in 2014, he liked Warren, but was at the same time completely against open borders. I forgot why he liked Warren at the time, but generally both these people were like...why are we fighting all these wars? The guy from Bangladesh, though a liberal, I respect as an AMERICAN. The Bangladeshi community has been on him to donate, get involved with pro-Bangladeshi movements and he's adamant - That place gave me NOTHING, not food, not clothing, not opportunity, not education - AMERICA has given this all to me (given as in opportunity). He further stated "If you cannot be successful in the USA, you cannot be successful." So what I don't understand, is this guy seems like a great example of at least capitalism & conservatism - yet is somehow left leaning.

    I guess my question ( to myself) is what is it about certain countries culture that drives their "children" down the socialist path every time? THAT culture is what needs addressing. Yes, this gets into assimilation, but it also gets into the fact the repubics cannot deliver, as a unified front, their message at all.
     
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    Creek. Im not sure many of the Brits like the Poles. You see, Poles tend to be smart, hard working, and conservative. So those who wanted out of EU probably like them.
    They are also willing to start out working shit jobs (at least my experience here in CO) and show their brain and hard work and move up.

    My ex wife is a Polish immigrant. Stiff and cold (among other “non-wife” qualities that didnt show up in dating) but damn she is smart and a hard worker. And always votes against any socialist ideas. She grew up with that shit. And hates it.

    There is a rather large Polish community in the UK and noone seems to have a problem with them. Most are descended from Poles who were in the UK as soldiers (or their families) and fought with the RAF, the British Army and, later, the Free Polish forces. And when Poland stayed behind the Iron Curtain any of these folks who went home would end up in a Stalinist camp. England opened their doors.

    Lots of folks with Cockney accents and the last name -Ski. And they get along fine as far as I have seen. One reason is that they have assimilated rather better than most. Tea and Golumpki's anyone? And, they are smart and hard-working. An English trait that they still value...

    Now the more recent immigrants? Well, they stand out more. And, as in Japan, the nail that sticks up gets hammered down first. But as the Poles are not chopping the heads of Guardsmen and stabbing grannies walking home from Harrods... I think they are pretty safe.

    Cheers,

    Sirhr
     
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    Creek. Im not sure many of the Brits like the Poles. You see, Poles tend to be smart, hard working, and conservative. So those who wanted out of EU probably like them.
    They are also willing to start out working shit jobs (at least my experience here in CO) and show their brain and hard work and move up.

    My ex wife is a Polish immigrant. Stiff and cold (among other “non-wife” qualities that didnt show up in dating) but damn she is smart and a hard worker. And always votes against any socialist ideas. She grew up with that shit. And hates it.
    You know why polacks don’t commit suicide? Can’t jump out of a basement window. :D
     
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    @powdahound76 is right Brits are not too fond of the Poles. Polish imigrants were one of the reasons for brexit.

    'Polish plumber' is synonamus in UK for foreigner taking jobs from the natives. And its not the first time Brits had beef with the Poles after the war when jobs in coal were drying up Poles were taking much flack for taking british jobs.


    There are almost a milion Polish nationals (that means born in Poland not naturalised Poles) living in Britain, the largest group of foreign nationals in the UK, and Polish is the second most widely spoken language in Britain after English ,brits don't like the free movement of people within EU as they became the mayor destination for economic migrants from Eastern Europe when EU enlarged to the east most of which are hard workers but plenty enough play welfare queens .

    Brexit referendum was first and foremost about migration , all other factors to brexit were minor side show.

    And Brexit has achived that goal , Polish imigration not only stoped but actualy more are moving out of UK than comming in.

     
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