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Hunters First to Die from "Zombie Deer" Disease

In the minds of the writer based on some bullshit. CWD and prion diseases are not rapid onset like the people in WY the article talks about dying. It can take years for your brain to break down.

If it's so dangerous and they so scared it's gonna jump to humans why does CPW force us to expose ourselves to the brain and spinal fluid to send heads in for testing. 🤔
 
I only briefly skimmed the article but I believe they "posited" (read: guessed) that the hunters cause of death was CWD.

I don't think it's yet confirmed whether CWD or Mad Cow can transfer to humans.

I used to know a couple hunters in IL and WI that would blast any deer exhibiting symptoms of CWD, even if it "ruined" their (bow) hunts. They also had land-owner tags, so I guess that helps. This goes back to late 90s / early 2000s.
 
In CWD zones, you have to take your deer to the check station where they take samples.

On the public land that I hunt, which is not a CWD zone, it used to be required on just opening weekend and Thanksgiving Weekend to take your deer to the check station but they no longer require that. Harvests are down. Too many hunters and not enough deer, especially with the deer drive hunters. One guy posts at a spot and the other 2 or 3 guys wander through to pressure any deer toward the shooter. Which scares off all the deer for everyone.

I watched a tutorial on deboning from the Arkansas fish and game people and in their CWD zones, you have to leave the bones there but you can take the meat off of the bone.
 
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This is why you shoot the small ones. They ain't infected yet. Should I be concerned I just finished some venison roast with mashies, carrots and green beens. Yummm
 
I have a lot of trouble with the article. Lots of assumptions made on CWD being the cause of CJD. There are other ways of contracting CJD, I think it’s a bit of a stretch to factually say “two guys, live in a CWD area, eat deer meat, contracted CJD = zombie deer disease killing people.

Could it happen? Yes,- but lots of speculation without any real facts that consuming CWD infected venison caused CJD.
 
Here in the great corrupt state of mi one is required to go online and drop a pin of location of harvest along with date and time and method of harvesting. It Carrie’s fines and even jail time for those that don’t . And it’s in the name of tracking CWD and other diseases- except there is not a tissue/tooth head required or any fields on the state site for such info- Brilliant!
 
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Here in the great corrupt state of mi one is required to go online and drop a pin of location of harvest along with date and time and method of harvesting. It Carrie’s fines and even jail time for those that don’t . And it’s in the name of tracking CWD and other diseases- except there is not a tissue/tooth head required or any fields on the state site for such info- Brilliant!
In my state, you have to eOSR when you get to a public land spot. (electronic On Site Registration.) You can also use the same app to log a harvest. County, property, sex of the deer.
 
In my state, you have to eOSR when you get to a public land spot. (electronic On Site Registration.) You can also use the same app to log a harvest. County, property, sex of the deer.
So they require you to have a phone?
 
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Probably 85% of the meat we eat is deer. We have a few cases in the state of CWD and a couple in the adjoining county. Had to turn in all deer heads during a 2 week period of the season. Ended up turning in 3. No cases found the past season of heads turned in for analysis as far as I know. When our turn in heads regs hit this year I researched the hell out of it. Never found one case of transmission to humans. Are there any?
 
"In 2022, a 72-year-old man with a history of consuming meat from a CWD-infected deer population presented with rapid-onset confusion and aggression. His friend, who had also eaten venison from the same deer population, recently died of CJD, raising concerns about a potential link between CWD and human prion disease. Despite aggressive symptomatic treatment of seizures and agitation, the patient’s condition deteriorated and he died within a month of initial presentation. The diagnosis was confirmed postmortem as sporadic CJD with homozygous methionine at codon 129 (sCJDMM1). The patient’s history, including a similar case in his social group, suggests a possible novel animal-to-human transmission of CWD. Based on non-human primate and mouse models, cross-species transmission of CJD is plausible. Due to the challenge of distinguishing sCJDMM1 from CWD without detailed prion protein characterization, it is not possible to definitively rule out CWD in these cases. Although causation remains unproven, this cluster emphasizes the need for further investigation into the potential risks of consuming CWD-infected deer and its implications for public health."

"It is not positive to rule out" and "it is not possible to rule in" kind of go hand and hand here.

Couple things are suspect about this article. You're dealing with two elderly gentleman, no mention of vaccination status or other medications, with vague suggestion of eating venison from the "same deer population". (Is that the same state of deer, same county of deer, same herd?) I'd like to know more details on that. The article mentions "aggressive symptomatic treatment of seizures and agitation", which is fine but there's no treatment for any prion-related disease regardless of the cause or source of the prion.

There has been already postulation of the possibility of prion disease related to certain medical therapies to treat certain viruses, or possibly that virus itself. What are the odds that that will be investigated as a potential etiology versus a vague hypothesis to discourage people from being self-sufficient and finding their own food sources?

I'm somewhat concerned that they already have a pre-existing primate to mouse model- mentioned above - have a certain investigators' monkeys accidentally/intentionally released possibly in contact with rodents for unknown transmission for prions? Don't forget the lies and disinformation we were subject to. Lets not forget Fauci's specific directive on "use of fear" to scare people into one behavior vs. another.

They already have been several medications in the category of what is referred to as biologicals, specifically for autoimmune diseases, that have been definitively linked to PMLE, a fatal prion brain infection.

I think it's fair to publish the article, but very premature in the insinuation of the cause and link which is not definitive.
 
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wait until they finally have to admit CWD is s genetic disorder/mutation and not a "contagious" disease that can be passed through the dirt.

but there's no government controls and studies and funds for that. so we'll keep getting fed the fear porn
 
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50% of my protein comes from venison, they are going to have to come up with some better proof than that to change what I'm eating
 
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wait until they finally have to admit CWD is s genetic disorder/mutation and not a "contagious" disease that can be passed through the dirt.

but there's no government controls and studies and funds for that. so we'll keep getting fed the fear porn
There are also genotypic disorders/mutations as you say that can affect susceptibility to a given infection. We also know age effects susceptibility, race (for example sick cell likely developed as protection from malaria) etc. I fear more what is being done in labs and being allowed to cross to nature - intentionally or unintentionally.
 
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