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Iran Invasion time?

Let's face it; Iran is today's version of Laos in Vietnam
If we take a page from my old boss's book on that, it's a none issue. His plan an implantation of same, worked so perfect congress had him removed, for being to brutal. Interesting, as I don't know a nice way to win a war.
Iran thinks that bowing down to any U.S. demands is a sign of weakness to them. So the Iranians are in it for the long haul, and are treating Trump's tough guy bullying tactics as if they are already at war with the U.S..

The Iranian mullahs are comparing it's present confrontation with the U.S. as the same dilemma during Iran's war with Iraq.
Bullshit, the people of Iran are no different than here, that is proven fact. Take out the hardliners an Iran is just as US friendly like the family dog. You really don't have a clue to world affairs/events do you. The people of Iran want a western life style, that is proven fact.
Make up some more libtrad B/S an post it here. We need a good laugh every so often beings we have to slave to keep the FSA like you in free Food/water/housing/healthcare/phones, an now free internet so you can post, the voices in your head.
 
If we take a page from my old boss's book on that, it's a none issue. His plan an implantation of same, worked so perfect congress had him removed, for being to brutal. Interesting, as I don't know a nice way to win a war.

Bullshit, the people of Iran are no different than here, that is proven fact. Take out the hardliners an Iran is just as US friendly like the family dog. You really don't have a clue to world affairs/events do you. The people of Iran want a western life style, that is proven fact.
Make up some more libtrad B/S an post it here. We need a good laugh every so often beings we have to slave to keep the FSA like you in free Food/water/housing/healthcare/phones, an now free internet so you can post, the voices in your head.

May I suggest that you should try to keep up with the latest world news, instead of just spouting knee jerk reactions and spreading false innuendos.
 
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I wonder what a dozen MOABs would look like from space? I think a dozen of these bombs delivered on Baghdad would trump 120k troops.

Just one man's opinion.....
 
Hi,

It is NOT the Iranian people that are the issue...it IS the Iranian leadership...Just as @Gunfighter14e2 has mentioned.

If you take the time to research Iran before 1979 you will see very quickly that the people/lifestyle were as close to USA people/lifestyle as the Middle East has ever seen (Not taking into account the hotels/resorts in UAE).

This picture looks pretty much identical to pictures from USA in 1978 huh?
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I have spent enough time in Iran and pretty much the entire Middle East region to understand how and why the people fall sheep to its "Leaders" so fast even when that leader is oppressing and killing them. Luckily for the people they have the ability to just as easily "forget" that oppressive leader when replaced with a more "western minded" leader.

Sincerely,
Theis
 
I'd agree. The contemporary illuminati bullshit is just that. A ruse to sew confusion. From, you guessed it, the pillar of education.

Much better to stick to ancient manuscripts and find the hidden gems written so cryptically in original form that the scribes and later editors over the years couldn't dilute them.

Did someone mention Illuminati? Wasnt me. Just follow the money, it all becomes clear.
 
Most fitting place for moabs would be some Palaces in Riad SA and Abu Dabi UAE

But i think the MOAB dude ,besides not being able to find Iran on a map ,forgets that these Mullahs used human wave type attacks in Iraq Iran war 0,5mio combat deaths in WW1 style stalemate ,moabs wouldnt even put a dent on anyone not to mention you need a lumbering transport to deliver it ,too much time spent playing video games .

Side effects off Iran Iraq war , due to all the wounded and burn victms , lots of plastic surgery skills and practice , nowdays , down town Teheran chicks have more plastic done than those in Rio .
Second seems Iran Iraq war movies are on TV all the time ,one trick pony ,local indoctrination show.

Chill out and get some turkish Rampage it kind like Iranian war movies ,after having to watch this every day you would vote mullahs to ROFL
 
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Hi,

It is NOT the Iranian people that are the issue...it IS the Iranian leadership...Just as @Gunfighter14e2 has mentioned.

If you take the time to research Iran before 1979 you will see very quickly that the people/lifestyle were as close to USA people/lifestyle as the Middle East has ever seen (Not taking into account the hotels/resorts in UAE).

This picture looks pretty much identical to pictures from USA in 1978 huh?

I would say that in 1978 the American people were not ready to install a Theocracy, and so while life styles may have been similar values were different, in 1978. In 2019 it seems 50% of America would be delighted with a socialist dictator so long as he carried through on his promise to punish the rich.
 
It seems obvious that the Trump administration didn't learn anything from the Iraq war, since the United States is hurtling down the same road that led to the disastrous invasion of Iraq 16 years ago.
 
Hi,

It is NOT the Iranian people that are the issue...it IS the Iranian leadership...Just as @Gunfighter14e2 has mentioned.

If you take the time to research Iran before 1979 you will see very quickly that the people/lifestyle were as close to USA people/lifestyle as the Middle East has ever seen (Not taking into account the hotels/resorts in UAE).

This picture looks pretty much identical to pictures from USA in 1978 huh?
View attachment 7077495
View attachment 7077496

I have spent enough time in Iran and pretty much the entire Middle East region to understand how and why the people fall sheep to its "Leaders" so fast even when that leader is oppressing and killing them. Luckily for the people they have the ability to just as easily "forget" that oppressive leader when replaced with a more "western minded" leader.

Sincerely,
Theis

The more the United States keeps up the dangerous saber rattling....the more power shifts to the mullahs.

Tthe Iranians are not forgetting what the Shah did to them.
 
If we kill them they wont be playing ball at all

One thing I realized a while back is that their civilization is far older, by thousands of years, than ours, and yes they can play long ball.

I saw the same thing, sort of, in the Mayan villages in the mts of Guatemala. If we blow up our world, theirs will remain pretty much unchanged....barring total world annihilation. Theyll keep toting water from the spring, planting corn and beans with a sharp stick, weaving on small looms.
 
It seems obvious that the Trump administration didn't learn anything from the Iraq war, since the United States is hurtling down the same road that led to the disastrous invasion of Iraq 16 years ago.

Iraq did not attack us recently, where as it seems that Iran may be. Yet I do not think we will rush to any conclusions.
 
It seems obvious that the Trump administration didn't learn anything from the Iraq war, since the United States is hurtling down the same road that led to the disastrous invasion of Iraq 16 years ago.


Honestly, I'm not seeing how the invasion of Iraq was disastrous (and yes, I was there). That aside, I see the invasion as successful since it accomplished two things:

1. It ceased proliferation of chemical weapons. And please, do not tell me Iraq didn't have WMD's (they just got them out before we could collect them). Any guess where they went? Like, maybe where their aircraft went in the first Gulf war? Granted, the location/destination is pure speculation on my part... I can tell you, to this day, I still firmly believe they had WMD's. No doubt whatsoever in my military f'ing mind. I won't get into details, but like I said, I still believe they had them. Now, let's see, where did Iraq send all their aircraft during the first Gulf War...Hmmmm....

2. It brought every nut case, jihadi, lunatic into Iraq, to get it on with the U.S. Versus them coming to US soil, to do it in our towns and cities and among our family and friends.
 
Honestly, I'm not seeing how the invasion of Iraq was disastrous (and yes, I was there). That aside, I see the invasion as successful since it accomplished two things:

1. It ceased proliferation of chemical weapons. And please, do not tell me Iraq didn't have WMD's (they just got them out before we could collect them). Any guess where they went? Like, maybe where their aircraft went in the first Gulf war? Granted, the location/destination is pure speculation on my part... I can tell you, to this day, I still firmly believe they had WMD's. No doubt whatsoever in my military f'ing mind. I won't get into details, but like I said, I still believe they had them. Now, let's see, where did Iraq send all their aircraft during the first Gulf War...Hmmmm....

2. It brought every nut case, jihadi, lunatic into Iraq, to get it on with the U.S. Versus them coming to US soil, to do it in our towns and cities and among our family and friends.

If we don't understand history we are doomed to repeat it.
 
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This picture looks pretty much identical to pictures from USA in 1978 huh?
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Quick story, Shah demanded the power plant being built be on line by X date. He did a drive by that day an smoke was coming from the stacks. Made comment, when I want it done by X date it get's done. Little did he know it was just a fire that had been built in the base of the stacks for his anus to see. Everyone in the know got a kick out of that.
 
We seem to have a full blender of shit at the moment. Getting things worked out with the China trade situation, getting rocket man to chill, getting the stock market, US business and farmers back on track. Getting Donald re-elected.
 
Hi,

It is NOT the Iranian people that are the issue...it IS the Iranian leadership...Just as @Gunfighter14e2 has mentioned.

If you take the time to research Iran before 1979 you will see very quickly that the people/lifestyle were as close to USA people/lifestyle as the Middle East has ever seen (Not taking into account the hotels/resorts in UAE).

This picture looks pretty much identical to pictures from USA in 1978 huh?
View attachment 7077495
View attachment 7077496

I have spent enough time in Iran and pretty much the entire Middle East region to understand how and why the people fall sheep to its "Leaders" so fast even when that leader is oppressing and killing them. Luckily for the people they have the ability to just as easily "forget" that oppressive leader when replaced with a more "western minded" leader.

Sincerely,
Theis


Tehran, Beirut, Damascus....they used to at one time all be beautiful, "tolerant" places. Shit look at pictures of Kabul from the 60s.

WTF happened?

Egypt was on their way to joining the shit holes, hoepfully Al Sisi can correct the course.
 
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So John Kerry has been conducting diplomacy with Iran in violation of the Logan act. I wonder if he explained to them how something like this could help Democrats replace President Trump in 2012/

In a prefect world John Kerry will be sitting at the table with Ali Khamenei discussing how to turn over America to Iran and that he pledges his full support to Islam. As John Kerry sips his tea one of Ali's aids points to the window and John gets his first and last glimpse of a Tomahawk Missile shot from USS Porter. Ships Commander breaks out cases of beer for the crew as the Tomahawk leaves their ship.

GO NAVY
 
If you want your 401K's to go up we need these companies in business bombing the shit out of other people who don't like us


  1. Lockheed Martin Corporation
  2. The Boeing Company
  3. Raytheon Company
  4. General Dynamics Corporation
  5. Northrop Grumman Corporation
  6. United Technologies Corporation
  7. L-3 Communications
  8. BAE Systems
Let's not forget about Halliburton they need war work to keep their stock price stable.


Hi,

So would the funds roll into the USA side of those companies or the Middle East side of those companies where the UAE and Saudi Governments own 51% of the Joint Venture company(s)?

Whoohooo!!! (We made your list). :p

LOL you evil MIC.... :p

Sincerely,
Theis
 
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First if anyone here ever actualy been to Iran , compared to the Gulf allies ,its a super freedom fries democracy. I know the PR line touted today is Iran is the big sponsor of terror, jet 95+% of all terrorists are Sunnis flowing Saudi strain of Wahabi Islam you know the 9/11 crew. Irans terror groups that are being touted are Hamas,Hezbollah and Huthis. First one is thorn for Israel and no one else(and honestly with total blockade Gaza how is Iran suposedly supplyig them?, second one much the same israel problem , the Huthis are the scurge of the Sauds that are failing with all the mercs in invasion of Yemen against barfooted folks fighting on the home turf.

I have to admit Huthis are in my view the only ones in the ME worth a penny. So far only folks you did not see mutilating bodies , beheading people and otherwise tripign on gore,unlike most 'freedom''democratic' whatever labeled jihads including the Kurds.

Huthis are whole next level ,no wonder Arabs and their mercs are failing .


Venezuela , why is ist of any concern? Democracy is hardly it as most US allies aside from Nato members and SK, Japan are hard core dictatorships. The chosen bloke named Guaido never won an election out side one district yet is somehow 'legitimate' interm president ,in any normal country in the West he would be arrested ,sentenced and imprisoned (look up Spain ,Catalonia) , and anywhere else in the world a bit shorter process would do , shot for treason. I am sure that sanctioning the folks into even greater poverty is just the ticket !! Likely will end up producing ever more pressure on US border.

North Korea ,seriously who gives a fuck ,let them handle it out with the South Koreans.

Do you ever get bored of picking on some of the worlds poorest folks who are no threat to US whatsoever.

Yea, I honestly didn’t understand you were approaching from anti-Americanism. I didn’t think of it because there are so many veterans on SH, and you shit isn’t tolerated.

You three are doofuses. I love the revelation Iran is at war with us. A few here have been listening to “DEATH TO AMERICA, DEATH TO ISRAEL” since 1979, so your revelations only tell us something about you.

As far as admiring Iranian backed, 4th century tribesmen, why am I not surprised. Why do you admire them and not the other proxies you mention? Because you have no idea what you’re talking about. But, it’s illustrative you like our enemies over our allies.

Keep digging morons.
 
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Yea, I honestly didn’t understand you were approaching from anti-Americanism. I didn’t think of it because there are so many veterans on SH, and you shit isn’t tolerated.

You three are doofuses. I love the revelation Iran is at war with us. A few here have been listening to “DEATH TO AMERICA, DEATH TO ISRAEL” since 1979, so your revelations only tell us something about you.

As far as admiring Iranian backed, 4th century tribesmen, why am I not surprised. Why do you admire them and not the other proxies you mention? Because you have no idea what you’re talking about. But, it’s illustrative you like our enemies over our allies.

Keep digging morons.


@Mr.BR is a foreign troll I think from the language quirks of his posts and the mindset from which they come.

His view points are interesting if often completely wrong.

Good to get his view point even if you disagree. Good to know the mindset of your adversary.
 
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With just a bit of effort on the West's part, the whole rotten Iranian leadership could have tumbled down in 2009... They were on the brink. Just a bit of support for the new government from the West... a few signals... and the problem would have been solved.

The Obama White House sat 100 percent on their hands and let the government crush the movement and kill thousands in jails. Tieneman Square anyone?

The best guesses at the time were that Valerie Jarrett, some said the power behind the throne, urged non-intervention and continued her the push to normalize relations... not support the student-led popular uprisings that came close to putting Iran back on the path to a secular government. The result was the 11th hour lifitng of sanctions, huge piles of cash and rewards to the theocrats who are using the money.... against everyone.

Noone will ever know, probably, what happened and why the West failed to act. They will never let those records out. Instead, we are stuck with the fundamentalist crazy train that is their power-projecting terrorist fundamentalist theocratic dictatorship.

And a great people are oppressed. Surprise. Realpolitik.

Whole region has been a mess for so long it's hard to see a solution... at least not a practical one.

So I'll just paraphrase General Sir Peter de La Billiere who said "If they grew carrots, we just wouldn't give a damn."

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
Probably from a dependent nation that cannot defend itself.
That’s ok. We’ll still protect you despite your ingratitude.

Mindful with who gets rolled into this bucket. I lazily commented "good post" but it was primarily in reference to the video as I am aware there are good people in other parts of the world.

My view on Iran is we got major fires right under our noses that are a more serious threat to the republic and the way of life we inherited than things going on over in the middle east. I much rather give up modern shit like iphones, and other contemporary bullshit if we didnt have to police the world in the interest of IMF expansion. There is enough fuel and resources right here, and screw the global economy that's being used to steal our way of life.

Thing is I know with 100% certainty that our "programmed" duty to police the world will have us in the middle of that shitstorm over there. And I'll also say in some years these subverters will get their global .gov right here, cause many of my countrymen where asleep at the wheel watching shit happening over in some other part of the world.

Sure would be nice to clone that fervor and redirect on target.
 
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With just a bit of effort on the West's part, the whole rotten Iranian leadership could have tumbled down in 2009... They were on the brink. Just a bit of support for the new government from the West... a few signals... and the problem would have been solved.

The Obama White House sat 100 percent on their hands and let the government crush the movement and kill thousands in jails. Tieneman Square anyone?

The best guesses at the time were that Valerie Jarrett, some said the power behind the throne, urged non-intervention and continued her the push to normalize relations... not support the student-led popular uprisings that came close to putting Iran back on the path to a secular government. The result was the 11th hour lifitng of sanctions, huge piles of cash and rewards to the theocrats who are using the money.... against everyone.

Noone will ever know, probably, what happened and why the West failed to act. They will never let those records out. Instead, we are stuck with the fundamentalist crazy train that is their power-projecting terrorist fundamentalist theocratic dictatorship.

And a great people are oppressed. Surprise. Realpolitik.

Whole region has been a mess for so long it's hard to see a solution... at least not a practical one.

So I'll just paraphrase General Sir Peter de La Billiere who said "If they grew carrots, we just wouldn't give a damn."

Cheers,

Sirhr


I seriously think the last regime saw the USA as the sole world Super Power as a threat to the world.

They did everything they could to degrade the US while empowering others to bring parity of power or at least check our capabilities.

Remember? Get used to growth of less than 2% its the new norm, just accept the fact of a nuclear North Korea.

The globalist view is not one of striving for excellence but of having everyone exist in the state of lowest common denominator.

A planet of equally miserable people is their ideal.
 
Yea, we’ll, we’ve tried that shit, more than once, and instead of going away those problems get so big they actually reach across the ocean to grab our throats. Dropping MOABs on the Rhein Valley when Hitler rearms and breaks the treaty is a lot less expensive than waiting another three years to declare war and getting 250,000 Americans dead. You can either have the fire department put out the fires when they’re manageable, or wait till everyone has to become a fireman and it’s burning down the city.


Speaking of cities, this world ain’t a city where anyone can play “world policeman”. For that you would also need world government and a world court, and this ain’t that.

This is a frontier with no law, and no world government (which I wouldn’t want anyway). We’re not “the world’s policeman”. We’re a lone marshal who has to deputize and form a posse from time to time. We don’t bring much justice or democracy. Most of the time we’re just avengers, and simply eliminate threats before the can metastasize. Most of the time I care most about the history that doesn’t get written rather than what does (see my example).
 
I seriously think the last regime saw the USA as the sole world Super Power as a threat to the world.

They did everything they could to degrade the US while empowering others to bring parity of power or at least check our capabilities.

Remember? Get used to growth of less than 2% its the new norm, just accept the fact of a nuclear North Korea.

The globalist view is not one of striving for excellence but of having everyone exist in the state of lowest common denominator.

A planet of equally miserable people is their ideal.

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They even publish the plans out in the open for everyone to read. You just have to read a little between the lines and/or have some insight into the final goal to understand whats being said.

The Grand Chessboard - Zbigniew Brzezinski
 
You can either have the fire department put out the fires when they’re manageable, or wait till everyone has to become a fireman and it’s burning down the city.
Interesting you said that as many did not realize the damage klinton did when he gutted our junk yard dog ranks. You do not built that base/ability back quickly then bush 2 an obummer went along with the same plan. Freedom is not free, nor easy to keep.
 
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We had our shot at Iran when they took the two patrol boats. We should have glassed them than.

I dont see the requirement now.

War should be an existential threat.

Show me the threat,

DEFINE A CLEAR AND CONCISE STRATEGY,

bring your case to Congress, get them to authorize the use of force (Good Luck),

initiate a draft, scare the shit out of all the beautiful people that their "Clifton" may get drafted,

they lobby Congress to get the war over before "Clifton" gets called up,

DOD is ordered to use the most force possible to end the war in a timely manner so the parents of all these "Cliftons" will stop calling their offices,

DOD goes in with a storm of steel ending the war in two weeks which keeps "Clifton" safe and ensures the least amount of suffering to non combatants in the area.

They havent met my demands yet so not one american should be going to the ME.

Apologies to USMC Commandant Gen. Clifton B Cates who was a warrior extraordinaire for casting aspersions upon his name.

On July 19, 1918 at the Battle of Soissons, most of Cates' company along with the 2nd Battalion was annihilated. The enemy artillery was so intense that Cates lost most of his britches in an explosion that nearly cost him his life. After capturing an old abandoned French trench, he sent a runner to his battalion headquarters with a situation report which read: "From Co. "H" At:? Date: July 19. Hour 10:45A.M. To: Lt. Col Lee. "I am in an old abandoned French trench bordering on the road leading out of your P.C. and 350 yards from an old mill. I have only two men out of my company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try and get it here as we are swept by machine-gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I WILL HOLD."
 
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Ladies and Gents, I present to you the bear that will be commanded to rise and devour much flesh.

Hell it very well could be said we already have bear cubs inside of the wire setting up their place at the next table.

""As Brzezinski pointed out, for American purposes of continued domination, it matters not that there are ethnic, religious and other differences between Russia, China and Iran. US foreign policy since September 2001 has increasingly forced those three to cooperate, despite those differences, for what they see as defense of their national sovereignty. ""

Brzezinski’s Ghost Shapes Washington Eurasia Geopolitics

Everyone follows their script. So who is issuing the commands and directing the grand show?
 
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Ladies and Gents, I present to you the bear that will be commanded to rise and devour much flesh.

Hell it very well could be said we already have bear cubs inside of the wire setting up their place at the next table.

""As Brzezinski pointed out, for American purposes of continued domination, it matters not that there are ethnic, religious and other differences between Russia, China and Iran. US foreign policy since September 2001 has increasingly forced those three to cooperate, despite those differences, for what they see as defense of their national sovereignty. ""

Brzezinski’s Ghost Shapes Washington Eurasia Geopolitics

Everyone follows their script. So who is issuing the commands and directing the grand show?


I hope Clinton stuck a cigar in Zigs daughter.

I agree that our policy has been one to keep Russia at arms length despite the fact we have much international interest in common, as well as in competition, with them.

I think as far as cultures go we have a bit more in common with Russia than we do with the other two.

Russia is still recovering from the Communist era. It is not run by nice people. It has a history of paranoia that effects its every political intrigue but it has an educated, cultured people and the middle class is growing and will in time demand better government.

We have an enemy that Russia also has its problems with.

Weirdly we have made an ally of the people funding the problem and they have made friends with the other side of that coin that waits for world conflagration to bring their wildest wet religious dreams to fruition.

China should be the enemy of everyone as they are Communist. Accepting their BS and letting them into the G8 was a mistake. It has provided them a lifeline to fund the oppression of their country, eventually the world.

The bad relationship with Russia is a construct of the Democratic party whom prior to 2016 was vowing to "be more felxible" with them.

The same Democrats are bemoaning our present trade war with China but I see it as thirty years too late and about time we stop giving them money and technology they intend to use against us.

If we make it through the current period there will be a lot of history to digest.
 
Really? I almost don't know what to say. Zbigniew Brzezinski? Are you serious? Lyndon B. Johnson's advisor? Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor? You have to be joking, or you must be talking about a different Zbigniew Brzezinski, because it can't be the one I'm thinking about.

This has to be some sort of troll, quoting and holding up the worst foreign policies in modern American history as a model going forward. Certainly foreign policy geniuses like Johnson, Brezesinski, and Jimmy Carter are directly linked to the why Iran has become a fully metastasized cancer in the region who funds the worst fanatics and murderous movements. While I grant you they seem like cartoonish villains who couldn't possibly believe the ridiculous fantasies that their radical brand of Shea Islam teaches, they are and they do, and the fact that you dismiss that is the only reason necessary to discard your commentary (that and Brezesinski).

Again, were the Ayatollah Khomeini crushed in his cradle when it would have been easy (when he led a bunch of students rather than a nation state), instead of the Carter Administration tacitly supporting him and cuting the Shah loose, we would not be in this difficult situation today, or facing a fanatical, messianic/apocalyptic regime whos main goal is nuclear weapons so they can bring about the end of the world and unleash their Mahdi.
 
IMF expansion.

You have stroked the nail directly upon its narrow little head. Thats what its all about, control of the money (and thus the resources) and some of us know the source.

How many countries still not under IMF control? Iran, N Korea, Cuba (or did they give in?) and a couple more.

As Meyer Amshel said...

"Its all about the fuckin money." paraphrased
 
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Really? I almost don't know what to say. Zbigniew Brzezinski? Are you serious? Lyndon B. Johnson's advisor?

Yeah that guy, one of the real deep state henchmen working the trenches all these years.

Edit: Is it within the realm of possibility that the current situation is not some odd series of organic policy mistakes? I argue it certainly is when one understands that all sides are influenced and pitted against each other from a central vantage point. Again via education, religions, politics, and finance.




I'm not calling you a troll. We sholdn't need to resort to name calling when confident in the points.
 
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Would turn out no better than the invasion of Iraq. We'd win the air/ground war and then be bogged down in a bullshit insurgency by insurgents constantly hopping borders and being organically recruited.

My policy for victory over Iran would be to annihilate their command/control infrastructure, kill all of their hardline leadership by whatever means necessary to cut down the complete list of anyone even remotely hardline/extremist/anti west in both the political and military sphere. Then you install an approved leader who doesn't have any of the qualities of the ones we let run south Vietnam to actually induce change from within, rather than our failed, bullshit policy of ramming democracy up peoples' asses 'for their own good'. Muslim countries don't do well with freedom; fuck letting them have it. Instead, focus on an Iran that isn't a bunch of annoying shit talking faggots and call it good.

Only military prescence should be to ensure the ports are under positive control and to control the Straight of Hormuz. This is actually an opportune time for this as we do not need to worry about a regional vacuum from Iraq and logistically, we are already nearby.

It's time to use an air war to cripple their ability to fight as well as to kill all of the leadership; not 'free' a country.
 
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This whole contrived situation, if anyone cares to follow my points, is a trap. I don't know when it will be sprung, but the trap is set.

The plan is to make the world beg for peace and safety. From that cry they are going to replace the UN with a global body that will void all of our constitutional rights however they see fit. And then they will tax you into oblivion for it. Your neighbors will out voice you in they will see no way beyond the solution offered.

It wont last very long. But it will happen.

Again while many play right into the hand.
 
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Its the leadership not the people in Iran as in most cases. My ex wife is Persian and their whole family here are business owners and for the most part we’re Republicans. I have a great respect for them for the love and respect they gave me and treated me as family. They are very intelligent and classy people. All of them are not religious because of what they have seen from radical Islam in there homeland, and none are Muslim. They did have a western lifestyle before radical Muslims stole there freedom and they hate them for that. Trust me from my ex wife’s own mouth ‘’ You don’t know those Mother Fuckers’’ They are hard working respectable and honorable people and trust me they are highly intelligent.
 
Whatever happens I worry about our navy being in a small confined space.
 
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A very quick full court press would be my preferance.
That would prevent a lot of our casualties and be decisive.

But I think we are dreaming, some political types will mess that up as usual.

I forget how long does the president have before congress can mess it up?
 
Its the leadership not the people in Iran as in most cases. My ex wife is Persian and their whole family here are business owners and for the most part we’re Republicans. I have a great respect for them for the love and respect they gave me and treated me as family. They are very intelligent and classy people. All of them are not religious because of what they have seen from radical Islam in there homeland, and none are Muslim. They did have a western lifestyle before radical Muslims stole there freedom and they hate them for that. Trust me from my ex wife’s own mouth ‘’ You don’t know those Mother Fuckers’’ They are hard working respectable and honorable people and trust me they are highly intelligent.

Of the Persians that I have known throughout my life, they are fine, honorable people. Much higher in caliber than myself.
 
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