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Mother Nature, was/is kicking that Midwest ass

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Looks to me like the stars are lining up, for what the Bible said would happen.


 

"In 1974, the word “outbreak” took on a whole new (though no less deadly) connotation when there was a massive outbreak of tornadoes in the Midwestern United States. In a matter of 15 hours, 148 separate tornadoes left a path of destruction over 13 states. At the end, hundreds of people were dead, thousands injured, and the damage was estimated at around half a billion dollars."
 
That's just the Midwest being Midwest.

Sucks, but it's been happening for the last 30 years that I can remember, and it was happening before I can remember.

Sensationalist fear reporting has only gotten worse year after year though.
 
Although not a new thing, for our area it is not a common thing. We havnt had a tornado stay ON THE GROUND for 45 minutes, cover 4 counties, jump the river and start ficking shit up again. First F5 in 11 years. We are in the omaha nebraska area. always a threat but the first time in my 36 years where it happened. Tornado ripped apart a neighborhood 2 miles from my old house, and ripped a town up 6 miles from my new house. I moved 77 miles into a diffrent state.

Shit was crazy.
 
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Looks to me like the stars are lining up, for what the Bible said would happen.



Hype for climate change drivers.
This is not "news".
Happens every year.
 
Been happening for 1000s of years. Only in the last couple hundred was there someone to write about it, and only the last 20-30 or so was there the internet to mass broadcast it.
 
Been happening for 1000s of years. Only in the last couple hundred was there someone to write about it, and only the last 20-30 or so was there the internet to mass broadcast it.
I remember and old painting that had Indians running from thier teepees as a tornado approached. I think it was in my jr high Texas history textbook. Been happening a while. But those things are serious business to be sure.
 
That's just the Midwest being Midwest.

Sucks, but it's been happening for the last 30 years that I can remember, and it was happening before I can remember.

Sensationalist fear reporting has only gotten worse year after year though.

Welcome to springtime in Tornado Alley and surrounding areas. Not a new thing.
Yup, we are talking about it in NE Iowa but it’s less of a shock it happened but curious where the tornados hit this year. A few years back it was along I80 through the middle of Iowa and a decade ago it was an F5 in a town 20 mi west of us (1/3 of that town is new housing and school buildings now).

When we get a strange number of occurrences then there’s something to think about.

Scripture will be fulfilled, not guaranteed it will be in my lifetime though
 
Although not a new thing, for our area it is not a common thing. We havnt had a tornado stay ON THE GROUND for 45 minutes, cover 4 counties, jump the river and start ficking shit up again. First F5 in 11 years. We are in the omaha nebraska area. always a threat but the first time in my 36 years where it happened. Tornado ripped apart a neighborhood 2 miles from my old house, and ripped a town up 6 miles from my new house. I moved 77 miles into a diffrent state.

Shit was crazy.
Wife's brother lives in Omaha (near Boy's Town) and says a big one was about 5 miles from him.
 
First... hoping folks there are ok and impact is not destroying good Americans.

Second.. But Climate Change? Greta is having orgasmic convulsions... even if this is normal (if irregular) midwest weather. Not climate change.

Stay strong folks!

And if anyone thinks this is new... check out the Xenia, OH storms of 1974. You know... before man-made climate change. Xenia was virtually wiped off the map due to the climate-change-that-did-not-exist-in-the-Gerald-Ford-adminstration-timeframe" era of eco-faggotry.

Sirhr
 
Don't assume its always mother nature - remember what DARPA can do when it wants to. There I said it out loud @sirhrmechanic. Don't forget how they used storms in Vietnam. They have advanced a ton.

I had warnings going off all day yesterday. Lots of rotation seen in the county next to me.
 
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Had some action recently.



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Here is where it's cornfusing to me. People will say the climate is not changing due to man. We couldn't effect it that much. Then in the next sentence claim the government can control the weather. If they have technology to conjure storms they better not let me get a hold of it. The high plains will start yo look like a rain forest. 🤣🤣🤣
 
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Hope everyone is OK and stays safe. Spring time here in Kansas is always exciting!
 
More storms headed out that way now. Especially if it's another El Nino year expect a lot more until monsoon season is over.
 
Yeah, we are supposed to get a butt-whooping along the Red River tonight. The local news forecast is even suggesting that some of the storms could be life-threatening. Bend over and kiss your butt goodbye.
 
My family was in the shelter tonight. Came out 30 minutes ago. Sounds like Cole might have gotten hit, again.
 
We have been lucky here in Bama so far this year! This one missed me by about 1/4 mile in 2011
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We have been lucky here in Bama so far this year! This one missed me by about 1/4 mile in 2011View attachment 8406365
It was bad in 11, here as well. I'm N/E of Gadsden by a bunch and had building material, tax papers, photos, mail ect all over my property from,----->addresses in Tuscaloosa. We were unscathed save utility power for 3 3/4 days but the genset never missed a beat, when that 500Kv tower was dropped in the river in Decatur. As the sun came up on the first day after, most of us gathered supplies & chain saws & headed out to some of the worst hit areas in DeKalb county. It was bad up there as they lost many folks & a lot of property was totally destroyed as well. We had one truck just shuttling supplies & fuel for 2 days. The chain saws, winches, & our backs got hard work outs, but there is nothing more satisfying than helping your fellow man, when they are down. The thing that made it all worthwhile was knowing had it been us, we knew they would have been there for us as well.

Alabama might be many things, but we help our neighbors, and don't whine for others to save us.
 
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1913 had a single bad day. Imagine the death toll if the population was what it is today....not a heck of a lot of "civilization" back then.


Population growth, mass communication efficiency, and political agendas are the only things that have changed.

Tornado alley has daily tornados through the summer and it's been that way long before people lived there. They are normally out away from population centers so only the locals know about them. It makes bigger news the closer they get to towns or the more stuff they tear up.

Where I grew up there were opportunities to see multiple tornados every summer right from the front porch. We used to go out and watch them as entertainment. Then the big one hit, if you want to read something crazy check this out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Joplin_tornado

158 dead and the most expensive tornado in history $2.8B. It was so massive it destroyed a hospital and that was not a small building.
 
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I lived in Grand Island, NE for several years, the movie "Night of the Twister" was about GI. I found out there were two types of people, ones that had been through a big tornado and ones who hadn't. If they had been through a big one, when the sirens went off you would turn around and they were gone, the rest of us would stay out and watch for the incoming storm. Basements are a thing in Nebraska for a reason.
 
Got up last night and tuned in to one of the Tulsa TV channels to see what was coming...

I watched as multiple tornado warnings were issued...

Not because actual verified tornados were on the ground. But because of radar-indicated rotation in the cell. They can even use the radar to check for "lofted debris" that a tornado would kick up.

This practice has the benefit of getting people in an affected area in their shelters and ready... Just in case the rotation actually produces a funnel that touches down and does damage.

But it also strikes me as a bit of sensationalism.

How many of these "radar-indicated rotation" warnings will be counted as actual tornadoes? Even though no funnel touched down and did damage.

How many people told to take cover believe that there was an actual tornado in their area?

Granted, tornadoes are notoriously difficult to spot with radar. But it seems they have lowered the bar when it comes to actually issuing warnings.

How many people will quit heeding warnings if they are constantly told to take cover because radar says there is rotation and no actual tornado?

Mike
 
Got up last night and tuned in to one of the Tulsa TV channels to see what was coming...

I watched as multiple tornado warnings were issued...

Not because actual verified tornados were on the ground. But because of radar-indicated rotation in the cell. They can even use the radar to check for "lofted debris" that a tornado would kick up.

This practice has the benefit of getting people in an affected area in their shelters and ready... Just in case the rotation actually produces a funnel that touches down and does damage.

But it also strikes me as a bit of sensationalism.

How many of these "radar-indicated rotation" warnings will be counted as actual tornadoes? Even though no funnel touched down and did damage.

How many people told to take cover believe that there was an actual tornado in their area?

Granted, tornadoes are notoriously difficult to spot with radar. But it seems they have lowered the bar when it comes to actually issuing warnings.

How many people will quit heeding warnings if they are constantly told to take cover because radar says there is rotation and no actual tornado?

Mike
David Payne was foaming at the mouth that there was a tornado coming into a casino in Norman last night. One of his weather watchers was in the parking lot and reported seeing nothing. :LOL:
 
David Payne was foaming at the mouth that there was a tornado coming into a casino in Norman last night. One of his weather watchers was in the parking lot and reported seeing nothing. :LOL:
See, that seems to be more and more common.

I always lived too far east to pick up OKC stations... But I had a lot of respect for Gary England. He could get the point across and be cool as a cucumber doing it.

It seems these stations are bypassing the public service and safety aspect of weather and fighting each other for ratings... On one hand the competition has improved a lot of the technology. But it seems to generate a lot of hype and sensationalism.

I had zero idea that people had died in Holdenville until I checked the news this morning. I guess Sapulpa had damage too... I need to send a text or call a friend who lives in the area and see how he fared.

Mike
 
Well, southern Ok got hit fairly hard. Tornado in Ardmore, which is north on 35 from the Winstar Casino. And some more farther east around Sulphur. Lots of damage, injuries. I am south of the Red River and lucked out. Just thunder and a lot of rain. I may be jinxing myself the right way. I hve a vehicle cover for my truck. I put it on and get just heavy rain. So far.

I have lived in north Texas since October of 1974. Every year, from about March 15 to June 1 is out tornado season and it is simpler to expect that 2 and a half months as one long tornado watch. I mean, if there is a cloud in the sky, the forecasters want you so afraid that you must bend over and kiss your own butt goodbye.

The boy cried wolf too many times. Then, people don't pay attention.

Also, tornados and hurricanes don't do more damage than they did before. Humans build more structures in their known paths.

Old time weatherman Harold Taft said it best.

First off, he did no rely on computers. He went by measured local conditions.

Secondly, the reason USA gets tornados and specifically Texas and Oklahoma more than anywhere else has to do with geography. Cold fronts race down the front range from Canada or over from the Pacific Ocean. Huge plumes of moisture come up from the Gulf of Mexico. And we have desert in our states that results in a dry line. Where the dry line, the cold front, and the hot moisture is the golden triangle where tornados most often happen.

There are degrees of safety in a tornado.

The safest place is to not be in the damage path.

If you are in the path, then an underground shelter is best. Followed by a solid and built on site building, in the interior rooms, not anywhere near windows. Especially if the room has been fortified to be a storm room.

If you can get into a modern school building, that can work. Mobile homes are tornado magnets. You are technically a hair safer in a car but not really. Being in a car is just about the worse. it is better to get out and lay in the bar ditch next to the road with the idea that winds will blow over you.

The reason that being under overpasses doesn't help is because you are now in a wind funnel with nowhere to go.

To quote Ron White, "It is not that the wind is a -blowin. It is what the wind is a-blowin. If you get hit by a Volvo, it does not matter how many sit-ups you did that morning."
 
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BOHICA. Round 2 moving into my little corner of the armpit...

Our female shepherd is already cowering on the couch. She can't stand the thunder.

Guess I'll turn on the TV and see if it's going to get rowdy.

Mike
 
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Our female shepherd is already cowering on the couch. She can't stand the thunder.
We had a shit-sue (ya i know) named Bella, that was the cause of and on going argument between my late wife and I. As soon as a clap of thunder happened 100 miles away that thing started shaking, so naturally I renamed it Quiver. The wife never seen the humor in it. As soon as I'd hear thunder I'd holler Quiver, and it would come running & jump in my lap, which would really piss off the wife.
 
We had a shit-sue (ya i know) named Bella, that was the cause of and on going argument between my late wife and I. As soon as a clap of thunder happened 100 miles away that thing started shaking, so naturally I renamed it Quiver. The wife never seen the humor in it. As soon as I'd hear thunder I'd holler Quiver, and it would come running & jump in my lap, which would really piss off the wife.
Dogs... They're all unique. And you get what you get. 😆

Mike
 
We had a shit-sue (ya i know) named Bella, that was the cause of and on going argument between my late wife and I. As soon as a clap of thunder happened 100 miles away that thing started shaking, so naturally I renamed it Quiver. The wife never seen the humor in it. As soon as I'd hear thunder I'd holler Quiver, and it would come running & jump in my lap, which would really piss off the wife.
Speaking of pissing off the wife...

Mine kept talking about getting another shepherd for months. And I kept telling her no.

But marriage is about compromise. So we compromised and got another shepherd. 🙄

And the little shit wants nothing to do with her except to aggravate her... Bite her heels, steal her shoes, etc...

But he's pretty much a perfect angel for me. His favorite spot is curled up sleeping next to my feet.

Pisses her off something fierce. 😂

Mike
 
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Speaking of pissing off the wife...

Mine kept talking about getting another shepherd for months. And I kept telling her no.

But marriage is about compromise. So we compromised and got another shepherd. 🙄

And the little shit wants nothing to do with her except to aggravate her... Bite her heels, steal her shoes, etc...

But he's pretty much a perfect angel for me. His favorite spot is curled up sleeping next to my feet.

Pisses her off something fierce. 😂

Mike
Yep, dogs can be funny. As a kid I had a 50/50 Shepard Collie mix that would go with me while I ran my trap lines. One afternoon lightening hit a tree about 100yds away. I about shit my pants and was trying as fast as I could to start my mini bike to get out of there all the while babbling gibberish. Old Nick looked at me like, WTF is wrong with you, it did not hit us, chill out. That dog was never bothered by any type of weather.
 
My wife last night was so worried about the coming storms that she didn't want to leave our 15 year old daughter home alone in case a 'nader blew through....so we took her with us to a place that saw the worst of the storm, but no 'naders.

The house didn't get anything but a couple inches of rain and some lightning, not even the wind we were expecting.

Daughter enjoyed the evening with us though, so I guess that's a win.

We had a tiny F1 about 6 or 7 miles east of us a couple weeks ago. Rolled a camper trailer with the occupants still inside, and wrecked a trap shooting clubhouse. A couple years ago we had one pass between us and town a couple miles east, it was small, blew down a bit of corn and blew some stuff around, but nothing too terrible. No injuries or deaths.

Saw a monster may 4 2003. Wife was having her bridal shower that day, and it was headed right towards the party. Came out of Kansas and paused on top of the Missouri river for a moment, massive 100+ year old sycamore trees flying around it with the root wad and all, like a sheet of paper in the breeze, then it turned east and missed us.....then dropped golf ball sized hail on my car. IIRC they rated it an F4. 5 min or so after it was more or less gone, and the hail stopped falling, I looked up, and way the hell up there I see a full 4x8 sheet of plywood falling, just tumbling end over end as it fell. Base of that 'nader was pretty close to 1/2 mile or so, it was a biggun. Driving home afterwards was wild, there was a truck accessories place that had all the trucks waiting for customization piled into a large ditch by the place, like a kid swept his arm across a table and pushed all of 'em into a ditch, crazy, and the building next door, untouched. 'naders are crazy.

Branden
 
We had a shit-sue (ya i know) named Bella, that was the cause of and on going argument between my late wife and I. As soon as a clap of thunder happened 100 miles away that thing started shaking, so naturally I renamed it Quiver. The wife never seen the humor in it. As soon as I'd hear thunder I'd holler Quiver, and it would come running & jump in my lap, which would really piss off the wife.
Ever thought of mating her with an English Bulldog and have an English Bull Shi-tzu?
 
The wife and I were standing on the porch, watching the storm, and I told her I heard a rumble, like a tornado, to the NW. a second later, a tornado warning popped up on our phones. I pulled up the radar and saw this sweet hook echo. 😳😳😳

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