The Lair in chief is done. They have turned on his ass

[Camelfilter]

Nobody is more skeptical than me.

Biden's puppet show is just carrying out Hillary's globalist agenda; mass importation of wetbacks and muslims, 50% taxation which is communism, shutting down the oil industry and fossil fuels, etc. IOW, destroy America.

Trump derailed that plan for four years and had the U.S. running like the independant, 1st World leader it once was was. If Trump was one of them, what was that all about?

I dig deep and see the big picture, however insane it is, but to say Trump was always part of their plan is overreaching.

Agreed.

What Trump didn't realize was how truly deep the swamp is, and how many folks have there hands & feet in the cookie jar. On all political sides.

He doesn't have any wants for the soggy cookies, he's just a true Patriot. Something folks can't believe, so they don't.

IMO.

 

[kindabitey]

Yall do realize that idolizing any politician is just like thinking the stripper likes you.

 

[Ronws]

You mean a pedophile old criminal that openly bragged how he threatened to withold money to a foreign country unless they quit investigating him and his drug fiend son, who bragged about how he would steal the 2020 election by using "the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics”, you mean that guy lied about how high inflation was when he took office?

Yeah, I think he is also the firearms expert who said that a 9 mm could blow a lung out of the body, "man."

 

[TexPatriot]

not 100% sure what the plan is, but probably has something to do with dividing people more. The people that hate trump (TDS) tend to also hate anyone that would vote for trump. Most polarizing political figure in a while.

Also, when trump loses the election this year, would be enough of major issue for the undercover federal agents to start a civil war and blame the maga crew...

The main reason I think Trump is part of some plan is because he is still alive. If he were really a threat, he would be dead. Simple as that. If you think they can't kill him for some dumb reason, I disagree

I have a full roll of tin foil, anyone else need a hat?

This is a plausible theory and serious possibility.

However, if they wanted to start another CW they wouldn't need to go through the trouble of orchestrating another stolen election, they would just eliminate him and leave FBI/CIA fingerprints all over it.

 

[Ronws]

Robes-Pierre, where are you?

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

America was on the Hillary communist train heading for the cliff just fine in 2016. Trump derailed it.

Not really, has the military and parts of the NSA was,... NOT,... on board.

 

[M4orturnate]

It's because they will crash the economy under him.

He is NOT part of them... he is his own guy and never has been anything else. Crude... Real-estate Developer. NYC guy. Not a politician. Not a part of the swamp. Not any of the above.

He is everything I hate at one level. But at another... everything I love about a guy bucking the system.

He may win. If he does, it will be to have him as figurehead when the Schwabs and the Soros's crash the economy and blame it on him.

The best case is that he tells 'Americans' to eliminate the enemy with no repercussions.

But the worst case is he presides over the destruction of the USA... and it won't be his fault. But will be planned to ensure that 'capitalism' dies with him. And the Keysnians and socialist/Marxist shitwads can stand up and say "See.... we told you."

When they do that... don't believe them. Exterminate them. All of them.

Or we are doomed as a planet.

Sirhr

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Have everything go belly up under the rights idol and you'll have the majority of the normies begging the commies to save them

 

[sirhrmechanic]

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Have everything go belly up under the rights idol and you'll have the majority of the normies begging the commies to save them

You'd almost think that they planned the same thing under Herbert Hoover in 1929 and right before the 2008 election, when they crashed the economy (intentionally) to put in the Kenyan. And then there was Covid...

Yes, 2008 was intentional. Kicked off by Chuck Schumer in a well-coordinated "yank-of-the-carpet" out from under the real-estate mortgage industry. Specifically engineered the crash to torpedo McCain and leave the economy in ruins so Obama could jam his agenda through.

And of course who can forget 'mail-in-ballots' and the 2020 steal. Just 'sayin.

Sirhr

 

[Eostech]

Yall do realize that idolizing any politician is just like thinking the stripper likes you.

Wait, you saying they do not, in fact, love you long time?

 

[Ronws]

Wait, you saying they do not, in fact, love you long time?

Too much beaucoup.

 

[Haney]

Yall do realize that idolizing any politician is just like thinking the stripper likes you.

Winner ! This shit is laughable .

 

[Camelfilter]

Yall do realize that idolizing any politician is just like thinking the stripper likes you.

I look at accomplishments, as well as outcomes.

How were you, your family & friends doing under Trump, and how are you all doing under the current admin?

There are 2 choices, which are you going to choose? Or 3rd party, not vote?

 

[Grim's Reapers]

Our Forefathers envisioned the possibility of things like this occurring and tried their best to organize a Government and Constitution set up to prevent it. To me, it becomes obvious that malintent or self serving interests are present anytime someone starts to manipulate the Constitution to mean something other than what is says. This whole argument that the right to bear arms was meant for muskets is a crock of shit. It was meant to be exactly what it says. The Government should fear the people, not vice versa was their intent.

This whole thing has spun out of control because there are those who crave power above all else. It's an addiction worse than any drug to some. The day will come when those who created their own hell of some power not ever being enough will have nowhere left to seek it.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Nobody is more skeptical than me.

Biden's puppet show is just carrying out Hillary's globalist agenda; mass importation of wetbacks and muslims, 50% taxation which is communism, shutting down the oil industry and fossil fuels, etc. IOW, destroy America.

Trump derailed that plan for four years and had the U.S. running like the independant, 1st World leader it once was was. If Trump was one of them, what was that all about?

I dig deep and see the big picture, however insane it is, but to say Trump was always part of their plan is overreaching.

Hillary's agenda, That's funny. The people in DC are all puppets saying what they are told and doing as their strings are pulled. Including the idiot kenyan.
You didn't read what I said about Trump with an open skeptical mind. Think on this.... Was George W a plant? All that bullshit about hanging chads and whatnot to give him the win. Now we look back and it was through him that the Patriot Act was run through, deficit spending on a massive scale was kicked off and we invaded how many countries under a false pretence? Do you think that would have been acceptable if Gore was the president? We know without a doubt that the kenyan was a plant and Jo potato was also.
So I'll wait for some things to settle before I give him a ticker tape parade.
All the world is a stage. There's no magic it's all deception and slight of hand.

 

[TexPatriot]

Hillary's agenda, That's funny. The people in DC are all puppets saying what they are told and doing as their strings are pulled. Including the idiot kenyan.
You didn't read what I said about Trump with an open skeptical mind. Think on this.... Was George W a plant? All that bullshit about hanging chads and whatnot to give him the win. Now we look back and it was through him that the Patriot Act was run through, deficit spending on a massive scale was kicked off and we invaded how many countries under a false pretence? Do you think that would have been acceptable if Gore was the president? We know without a doubt that the kenyan was a plant and Jo potato was also.
So I'll wait for some things to settle before I give him a ticker tape parade.
All the world is a stage. There's no magic it's all deception and slight of hand.

"An open skeptical mind". Now thats even funnier.

The hanging chad issue was a possible rigged election. That was a pretty weak-ass scenario, but back then, in mine and everyone else's naive mind, Bush was percieved the good guy and no one really gave a shit about Al Gore and the Democrat's sore loser whining.

Was George W. a plant? Knowing what I know now, most likely. After all, look who his father was.

 

[Doc68]

I'm voting for civil war 2.0

Doc

 

[Camelfilter]

I'm voting for civil war 2.0

Doc

I certainly hope not. Would more than likely be horrific beyond what most folks could even imagine, let alone comprehend.

Then, there is also the concern over whom/what would be in control of whatever is left.

Most Revolutionary & Civil wars do not end up as ours have. "Reasonably stable" Democratic Republic.

Even with our faults as a Nation, still the greatest Nation on Earth.

-- And yup, I support Trump & his "Make America Great Again" slogan is pretty darned good--

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Was George W. a plant? Knowing what I know now, most likely.

This is what I am saying. Let the dust settle.

 

[TexPatriot]

This is what I am saying. Let the dust settle.

I agree.

If Trump's time in office has taught us, including Trump, anything it's how thoroughly currupt the government is. Both parties.

We now know the Bush clan wasn't going to gamble in any game of chance they weren't in control of and didn't know the outcome of.

 

[Glowie]

The great potato announces first organization he joind was naacp. Clearly the potato is wrong, it was the KKK. Come on man

 

[n2ishun]

Lair, Liar....whatever it takes.

 

[Ronws]

Lair, Liar....whatever it takes.

It's spelled Lair. Says so in the thread title.

 

[Ronws]

Lair, lair, pants on fair.

 

[Doc68]

I certainly hope not. Would more than likely be horrific beyond what most folks could even imagine, let alone comprehend.

Then, there is also the concern over whom/what would be in control of whatever is left.

Most Revolutionary & Civil wars do not end up as ours have. "Reasonably stable" Democratic Republic.

Even with our faults as a Nation, still the greatest Nation on Earth.

-- And yup, I support Trump & his "Make America Great Again" slogan is pretty darned good--

Well this republic is over. No amount of voting will ever solve this. No amount of taxes will solve this. We are done as a republic....it's just how fast or slowly and painful this republic dies at this point.


Doc

 

[Ronws]

Well this republic is over. No amount of voting will ever solve this. No amount of taxes will solve this. We are done as a republic....it's just how fast or slowly and painful this republic dies at this point.


Doc

Thing is, with no one doing anything about it, it will fall.

If enough people in this country had thrown a big enough fit at the right times, we would not be talking about our country in the past tense.

But now, we have people who think that electric cars are a good idea and they are also able to vote.

 

[fpgt72]

I certainly hope not. Would more than likely be horrific beyond what most folks could even imagine, let alone comprehend.

Then, there is also the concern over whom/what would be in control of whatever is left.

Most Revolutionary & Civil wars do not end up as ours have. "Reasonably stable" Democratic Republic.

Even with our faults as a Nation, still the greatest Nation on Earth.

-- And yup, I support Trump & his "Make America Great Again" slogan is pretty darned good--

The people that are pulling for a civil war could not be more clueless. All you need to do is look south and see what all is rolling across the border. If you think this will be settled between americans you are an idiot.

I think they know what side would win a civil war 2, and it is not them. So they bring in an army to even things out.

 

[Fig]

Culturally they're not warriors. Yes, the Hispanic Americans we all served with are as much warriors as the rest of us, but the ones from SA (who just look like them) are true peasants. 999 out of a thousand would not fight for the left and potentially die for the free shit they're coming here for. If there was a civil war they would run home as fast as they could.

They're here to vote illegally to steal elections and Cloward-Piven the system, not to fight.

 

[Ronws]

The people that are pulling for a civil war could not be more clueless. All you need to do is look south and see what all is rolling across the border. If you think this will be settled between americans you are an idiot.

I think they know what side would win a civil war 2, and it is not them. So they bring in an army to even things out.

I wonder if things could be different at the border if Texas was back to being the Lone Star Republic.

Maybe that is a pipe dream. Even with Texas guard units there, their weapons, if carried, are not loaded and they are acting as heavily outfitted security guards instead of reacting to what is obviously an invasion.

The current administration wants this.

And yes, the swamp is wide and deep. Most of the opposition to Trump building the wall could also be found in the republicans either not helping or actively standing in the way.

So, I have no problem with Gov Abbott sending the migrants to other cities. The cost of travel is still less than the cost on the local system of providing welfare. That being said, is it aiding and abbetting the invasion? That is, you now have bad actors in various places in the country and we sent them there once they got over the border.

 

[W54/XM-388]

d it was through him that the Patriot Act was run through, deficit spending on a massive scale was kicked off and we invaded how many countries under a false pretence? Do you think that would have been acceptable if Gore was the president?

If you watch things over the past decades you'll see a pattern.

Get the R to put in something that they claim is all "patriotic" and B.S. and will be used to destroy freedom, while all the stupid "conservative" sheep cheer.
Then flip it and get the D to put in something "for the good of the underprivileged" that will be used once again to destroy freedom while the stupid "liberal" sheep cheer.

Repeat the cycle.
Stupid sheep think they are doing some kind of "change" by "voting the bastards out" but nothing actually changes, it just keeps going along as planned.

NOBODY makes it to the top levels of government without the Global Elites allowing them for some reason or another.

Trump gave the Global Elites what they wanted, possibly without even realizing it.

 

[Camelfilter]

The people that are pulling for a civil war could not be more clueless. All you need to do is look south and see what all is rolling across the border. If you think this will be settled between americans you are an idiot.

I think they know what side would win a civil war 2, and it is not them. So they bring in an army to even things out.

There are plenty of nation states which would supply an American Civil war. Likely would supply ALL sides too (it would be foolish to think there would only be 2 sides).

Not to "win". Just to destroy the greatest Nation on earth & swing deals for resources.

The most likely outcome would be Balkanization. Worse than post Soviet era, once the dust has settled & the bodies burned. Yugoslavia like in some areas, perhaps bloodless in others ala Hungary post communism.

Regardless how it would ultimately resolve, the greatest Nation on earth would be no more. Without any invasion(s) nor direct outside attack(s).

History is an interesting thing. All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

IMO.

 

[fpgt72]

Culturally they're not warriors. Yes, the Hispanic Americans we all served with are as much warriors as the rest of us, but the ones from SA (who just look like them) are true peasants. 999 out of a thousand would not fight for the left and potentially die for the free shit they're coming here for. If there was a civil war they would run home as fast as they could.

They're here to vote illegally to steal elections and Cloward-Piven the system, not to fight.

It is not just hispanics that are coming across. And tell that to the cartels.

 

[fpgt72]

I wonder if things could be different at the border if Texas was back to being the Lone Star Republic.

Maybe that is a pipe dream. Even with Texas guard units there, their weapons, if carried, are not loaded and they are acting as heavily outfitted security guards instead of reacting to what is obviously an invasion.

The current administration wants this.

And yes, the swamp is wide and deep. Most of the opposition to Trump building the wall could also be found in the republicans either not helping or actively standing in the way.

So, I have no problem with Gov Abbott sending the migrants to other cities. The cost of travel is still less than the cost on the local system of providing welfare. That being said, is it aiding and abbetting the invasion? That is, you now have bad actors in various places in the country and we sent them there once they got over the border.

I see your point on the sending to other cities, but know this for a fact. If it was not for that one move this would be a non issue. This issue did not start when he sent that first batch to Marthas Vineyard, but it sure got the media attn, and that was what was needed. They could not ignore that story. People had been flowing across the border LONG before that first batch made the trip to the Liberal heaven. Now we see the blue cities having a melt down as they take from the americans and give to the illegals. It is really a HUGE problem for them now, and it all is because of that shipping them off.

As is it is the best we can hope for. Also know that the R's and D's are both on the same team, not yours.

 

[fpgt72]

There are plenty of nation states which would supply an American Civil war. Likely would supply ALL sides too (it would be foolish to think there would only be 2 sides).

Not to "win". Just to destroy the greatest Nation on earth & swing deals for resources.

The most likely outcome would be Balkanization. Worse than post Soviet era, once the dust has settled & the bodies burned. Yugoslavia like in some areas, perhaps bloodless in others ala Hungary post communism.

Regardless how it would ultimately resolve, the greatest Nation on earth would be no more. Without any invasion(s) nor direct outside attack(s).

History is an interesting thing. All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

IMO.

I think you are spot on. But I think it will continue to be messy, as people will want this or that in another area.

This is the outcome the WEF wants, it can not have a strong United States, and they have that now.

 

[Dunraven]

Can't have it both ways fellas. They are literally trying to put Trump in prison right now to stop him. Enough with this crap about the deep state allowing him or him being part of it. Trump is OBVIOUSLY their enemy. Just because he made some bad picks and was tricked by life long tricksters , doesn't mean he's a part of it. It's blatantly obvious they hate him and us and they will do anything to stop him, they just haven't been able to and they will fail again so long as "our side" stops this nonsense. If I didn't know better, I'd say that you guys are the deep state plants trying to convince real Americans to not vote. Stop doing that, we ALL NEED TO VOTE FOR TRUMP.

Do you still believe voting matters anymore?

 

[Dunraven]

not 100% sure what the plan is, but probably has something to do with dividing people more. The people that hate trump (TDS) tend to also hate anyone that would vote for trump. Most polarizing political figure in a while.

Also, when trump loses the election this year, would be enough of major issue for the undercover federal agents to start a civil war and blame the maga crew...

The main reason I think Trump is part of some plan is because he is still alive. If he were really a threat, he would be dead. Simple as that. If you think they can't kill him for some dumb reason, I disagree

I have a full roll of tin foil, anyone else need a hat?

Well, they've tried just about everything else against him. I believe they have a plan to take him out, just like Kennedy. They might be hesitant about it, leery of 'triggering' civil war, tho they surely have a backup plan for that too. At this point I wouldn't be surprised at any of their underhandness.

 

[Dunraven]

Yall do realize that idolizing any politician is just like thinking the stripper likes you.

He's more like the last, best hope, not an idol.

 

[UKDslayer]

So, I have no problem with Gov Abbott sending the migrants to other cities. The cost of travel is still less than the cost on the local system of providing welfare. That being said, is it aiding and abbetting the invasion? That is, you now have bad actors in various places in the country and we sent them there once they got over the border.

What he sends out is a piss in the bucket to what has stayed here. And yes, he is in on it. Paxton - don't know.

 

[ken226]

This is all a plan, the greatest military operation ever. They are allowing Trump to be prosecuted to set a precedent. Trump will not be convicted on any charges. This will allow prosecution of Biden and Obama. Trump was installed over Hillary to start the process and break the chain of destruction that was planned by Hillary.
It will all come out by the end of year, news outlets are turning on Joe now. The steal will be exposed.

 

[kindabitey]

He's more like the last, best hope, not an idol.

If you're referring to Trump, he's still a politician. They're ALL in it for themselves, doesn't matter what letter they have by their name.

 

[Camelfilter]

If you're referring to Trump, he's still a politician. They're ALL in it for themselves, doesn't matter what letter they have by their name.

You didn't answer my questions, so I'll ask you again:

I look at accomplishments, as well as outcomes.

How were you, your family & friends doing under Trump, and how are you all doing under the current admin?

There are 2 choices, which are you going to choose? Or 3rd party, not vote?

 

[mosin46]

answer is obvious. my question is how will the deep state get rid of biden? jill heart attack,clinton suicide,step down for the good of america,a stroke with the puta taking charge,an iranian chopper accident,assassination by a radical gun owner? his usefulness is about done. remains to be seen if he will be kept around to run again. VP choice will tell that tale. if they run him again with the puta on ticket,i will be surprised. and if he runs again harris will be gone and new VP will be pres in about march. look out for the dems taking house again and watch who they make speaker or the new # 2 in WH. yes,they will steal the election or come up with a way to suspend it-war,pandemic,martial law due to rioting by recent imports or a war started by the chinese,hamas,cartel armies already here.

 

[kindabitey]

You didn't answer my questions, so I'll ask you again:

And I’m not going to.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

I agree.

If Trump's time in office has taught us, including Trump, anything it's how thoroughly currupt the government is. Both parties.

We now know the Bush clan wasn't going to gamble in any game of chance they weren't in control of and didn't know the outcome of.

A while back everyone was throwing accolades on Elon. I said that I don't trust him and I will wait to see how this washes out. He's been in bed with the government for far too long to trust that he is clean. Lay down with dogs and you will have fleas.

 

[Camelfilter]

And I’m not going to.

That's too bad.

It would be nice to know if you & yours plus your friends are doing well under the current administration vs the prior. If you all are, how you are going about such.

If you all are not, if you attribute such to the administration.

As I certainly do.

 

[fpgt72]

If you're referring to Trump, he's still a politician. They're ALL in it for themselves, doesn't matter what letter they have by their name.

I don't think he is a politician, and the reason I don't think he is one is because all the politicians hate him. Even the ones that say they like him are just doing lip service. He is an outsider. If he was a politician then the entire world would not be so worried about him getting in there.

Like him or not, like his ideas or not, but one thing is for sure, he is no politician.

Watch this clip from 1988 and tell me where he has changed, he has not. His policy, and really the only thing he cares about is in this clip. Everything else, abortion and all that jazz, yea he has to have a view on that, but it is not his "hot button" issue. Everyone has a hot button issue, I would imagine for most people here the 2A is their hot button issue, with abortion a close second. For Trump his hot button is the economy, that is not a bad thing, and I think what we need right now.

 

[Haney]

There are plenty of nation states which would supply an American Civil war. Likely would supply ALL sides too (it would be foolish to think there would only be 2 sides).

Not to "win". Just to destroy the greatest Nation on earth & swing deals for resources.

The most likely outcome would be Balkanization. Worse than post Soviet era, once the dust has settled & the bodies burned. Yugoslavia like in some areas, perhaps bloodless in others ala Hungary post communism.

Regardless how it would ultimately resolve, the greatest Nation on earth would be no more. Without any invasion(s) nor direct outside attack(s).

History is an interesting thing. All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

IMO.

That's too bad.

It would be nice to know if you & yours plus your friends are doing well under the current administration vs the prior. If you all are, how you are going about such.

If you all are not, if you attribute such to the administration.

As I certainly do.

You come across as an asshole.

 

[Haney]

Agreed.

What Trump didn't realize was how truly deep the swamp is, and how many folks have there hands & feet in the cookie jar. On all political sides.

He doesn't have any wants for the soggy cookies, he's just a true Patriot. Something folks can't believe, so they don't.

IMO.

True patriot ? More like true coward traitor ?

 

[Doc68]

The people that are pulling for a civil war could not be more clueless. All you need to do is look south and see what all is rolling across the border. If you think this will be settled between americans you are an idiot.

I think they know what side would win a civil war 2, and it is not them. So they bring in an army to even things out.

Them please inform us all of how things are gonna get fixed at this point......

1. Do you honestly think voting works

2. Do you think the politicians will give up their positions.

3. Do you think the funders of BLM and these Palestinian protesters will ever allow us to go back to the way we lived before.

4. How do we pay off the 35 trillion in national debt.

5. Do you think we would have tribunals for all the ones who have committed treason against our country.

I'm listening for the answers...

Doc

 

[Camelfilter]

You come across as an asshole.

Not difficult, challenging nor trick questions for ANYONE to answer. Do so yourself, then come to your own conclusion.

A lot of folks don't like facts, more so when the facts fly in the face of a pre-conceived notion.

 

[fpgt72]

Them please inform us all of how things are gonna get fixed at this point......

1. Do you honestly think voting works

2. Do you think the politicians will give up their positions.

3. Do you think the funders of BLM and these Palestinian protesters will ever allow us to go back to the way we lived before.

4. How do we pay off the 35 trillion in national debt.

5. Do you think we would have tribunals for all the ones who have committed treason against our country.

I'm listening for the answers...

Doc

I really don't think things are going to get "fixed". I do however think that there is a good choice and a bad choice. And I don't think voting is worth a thing anymore, but I will still do it.

So why bother, because the other option is just so horrid. Some seem to just want to see the total destruction so they think it can be rebuilt in the way the founding fathers wanted. I hate to tell you this, but if this country falls it will never be put back together again, and if by some chance it is it will look nothing like it was in its early years. You will get just millions of dead people and a WEF run country. At least with trying you are going to delay this, and hopefully the people will wake the fuck up.