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Kid punished at school for saying yes Ma'am to the teacher

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    A little bit ago we were having a spirited discussion with some people stridently saying that using Yes Sir and Yes Ma'am was of ultimate importance.

    It seems however that no matter which side of the debate you fall on, somebody is going to get really mad at you:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6094879/Fifth-grade-boy-punished-calling-teacher-maam.html

    Apparently the teacher decided to punish the kid kind of harshly and even tried to stop her little feet at the kid's parents to make them respect her stupidity.
    Somehow the teacher got to keep their job???

    What is the world coming to these days.
     
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    WTF??? As I parent to a newborn he will know to address adults as sir or ma’am. Shows a sign of respect IMHO. The world we live in seems to surprise me more everyday with the amount of stupidty that’s out there.
     
    Like the liberal cow in my office that introduced me to some college students today and as we laughed about kids she told them my “partner” and I have 3 kids.

    I corrected her immeadiately and told her it was my fiancé. Not going to let their SJW crap mess up my parade.

    When the hell are people going to let everyone be instead of injecting their crap into people’s lives.

    If I was in that school, I would make it a point to call her ma’am every day, every interaction. And get all my friends and towns people to do the same.
     
    I had a teacher bust my balls for nothing I did. Actually had the class tell her the same. But was given a “report”to write for the next day. My parents, as always, asked how school was. Told them the story. Was told to return to school the next day and toss the pages I was given, all blank, on the teachers desk. And when questioned about it, tell the teacher that if there was an issue, to call my parents. So, she called. Big mistake. My friends saw my father in the office and let me know, thinking I was in trouble. My father tore the teacher and Vice Prinipal a new asshole.
     
    If I was in that school, I would make it a point to call her ma’am every day, every interaction. And get all my friends and towns people to do the same.
    I'd go "Sir" all over her on the daily like i was back on Parris Island. Wouldn't want to offend her by calling her ma'am...

    I'm a habitual "ma'am" sayer, even to the high school girls working the register at the local grocery. I especially have always done it at work, keeps shit on a continuous professional basis with zero room to ever falsely #metoo my ass.
     
    I'd go "Sir" all over her on the daily like i was back on Parris Island. Wouldn't want to offend her by calling her ma'am...

    I'm a habitual "ma'am" sayer, even to the high school girls working the register at the local grocery. I especially have always done it at work, keeps shit on a continuous professional basis with zero room to ever falsely #metoo my ass.

    This. ^^^

    I sometimes even address young kids, say 5 or 6 as Sir or ma'm, kind of in fun. Its just what youre bred to do in the south.
     
    My boys call them "miss". My wife kinda hates that I always refer to women as "broads". Like if I come home and wife has friends over, I'm always like "what you broads up to today?"
     
    I guess the term "ma'am" infers a specific gender. In this case it sounds like the gender would fall under cunt. As others have posted, as a kid I was taught to respect people, especially elders. What kind of world are we in where respect equates to an insult?
     
    A little bit ago we were having a spirited discussion with some people stridently saying that using Yes Sir and Yes Ma'am was of ultimate importance.

    It seems however that no matter which side of the debate you fall on, somebody is going to get really mad at you:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6094879/Fifth-grade-boy-punished-calling-teacher-maam.html

    Apparently the teacher decided to punish the kid kind of harshly and even tried to stop her little feet at the kid's parents to make them respect her stupidity.
    Somehow the teacher got to keep their job???

    What is the world coming to these days.

    My mother would have back-handed me off the chair for not using proper manners. At the point of infraction, no matter who was there.
     
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    I was twelve before I realized that my parent's name was not 'Yes Maam/No Maam, Yes Sir/No Sir' We addressed any adult as 'Mr so and so', 'Mrs. so and so', and 'Miss so and so'. None of this Ms or Ze or what ever the f^%& they want now.

    I'm thinking he should just address her as 'What ever bitch'
     
    Maser, none of them I ever called that were happy with it, quite the opposite.
    Maybe times have changed and I was unaware of it.
     
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    Maser, none of them I ever called that were happy with it, quite the opposite.
    Maybe time have changed and I was unaware of it.

    From my experience it depends on the conversation. That word has never been appreciated during an arguement. I have dated a couple of women that really liked the “dirty talk” and they would use that term themselves, frequently.
     
    From my experience it depends on the conversation. That word has never been appreciated during an arguement. I have dated a couple of women that really liked the “dirty talk” and they would use that term themselves, frequently.
    They love it when you say your cunt smells wonderful. They hate it when you say ur cunt smells like uncle Charles seafood warehouse.
     
    That thing's so ugly that Bill Cosby wouldn't hit it if it was passed out on Roofies wearing a leather teddy....

    Damn that's some nasty right there.

    Sirhr
    That thing's so ugly Bill Cosby wouldn't hit it with a shovel .
    That thing is so ugly even rain won't hit it .
     
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    Maser, none of them I ever called that were happy with it, quite the opposite.
    Maybe time have changed and I was unaware of it.

    An employee of the wife used that term after she fired him. One of her managers told me she would have most likely severely injured or killed him had he not been faster than her.
     
    I think Maser has been hanging with 99% Cunts (would explain a lot) :) . They like the term, it's like a getting a Trident for some women. I have observed that any married women with more than 15-20% Cunt is certainly headed for imminent divorce. Any higher than that and divorce turns to murder.

    Mike I am pretty sure most women still don't like the term. Even though they all know they have a little Cunt in them. :)
     
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    This really gets on my nerves. A couple years back I had this asshole truck driver come in the Waffle House I was working at up here and like EVERYONE I talk to, I referred to him as sir. He gets a smart ass tone/attitude and says "don't fuckin call me sir, I actually work for a living" as if in a way to imply that I don't. I try to keep my cool and without really thinking say "sorry sir (**I really didn't even mean to say it this time**), I wasn't raised in a place like this here big city and had good parents so it's automatic ingrained in my vocabulary". So he gets all huffing and puffing since I accidentally said it the 2nd time and said "get your manager out here now".

    I did and my manager told him we're sorry and take it easy on FC he's going on 67 hours and counting, all night shift and it wasn't personal yada yada. The fucker then goes on a tirade about that ain't even close to work, I just clocked 100 hours yada yada. Lol I was astounded. Wanted to tell him motherfucker you're talkin to the wrong one about what work is for one. I've put in more time and effort bailing hay, straw, and in a tobacco field and barn than any pussy ass shit you done. And I somewhat agree waffle house ain't so bad compared to the type work I did growin up but it's a damn sight more than sitting in a fucking truck! Jeez I wanted to strangle that dude by the time he finally left. The only rationale I can come up with for certain folks demanding not to be called sir/ma'am "because they work" is they come from a way different culture than me and I just need to try and make the effort to exclude it when talkin to em. Like it takes actual effort for me not to say it, I still vividly remember every smack on back of the head when I forgot to say it as a youngin'
     
    WTF??? As I parent to a newborn he will know to address adults as sir or ma’am. Shows a sign of respect IMHO. The world we live in seems to surprise me more everyday with the amount of stupidty that’s out there.

    Agreed! I grew up in the South and always said sir and ma’am. My son does and will. The bitch in the article must be a transplant to our state.
     
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    This really gets on my nerves. A couple years back I had this asshole truck driver come in the Waffle House I was working at up here and like EVERYONE I talk to, I referred to him as sir. He gets a smart ass tone/attitude and says "don't fuckin call me sir, I actually work for a living" as if in a way to imply that I don't. I try to keep my cool and without really thinking say "sorry sir (**I really didn't even mean to say it this time**), I wasn't raised in a place like this here big city and had good parents so it's automatic ingrained in my vocabulary". So he gets all huffing and puffing since I accidentally said it the 2nd time and said "get your manager out here now".

    I did and my manager told him we're sorry and take it easy on FC he's going on 67 hours and counting, all night shift and it wasn't personal yada yada. The fucker then goes on a tirade about that ain't even close to work, I just clocked 100 hours yada yada. Lol I was astounded. Wanted to tell him motherfucker you're talkin to the wrong one about what work is for one. I've put in more time and effort bailing hay, straw, and in a tobacco field and barn than any pussy ass shit you done. And I somewhat agree waffle house ain't so bad compared to the type work I did growin up but it's a damn sight more than sitting in a fucking truck! Jeez I wanted to strangle that dude by the time he finally left. The only rationale I can come up with for certain folks demanding not to be called sir/ma'am "because they work" is they come from a way different culture than me and I just need to try and make the effort to exclude it when talkin to em. Like it takes actual effort for me not to say it, I still vividly remember every smack on back of the head when I forgot to say it as a youngin'
    Got the same response last Friday from a sub contractor. Gave him the old “good for you” reply. Then told him to not feel special because I treat everyone who deserves it, like an ass. I think we use certain terms because it’s what we’ve been taught, in an attempt to treat people nicely. Just like his response was learned. But sometimes those douches run into someone who lets them know how Asshats should be treated, once they expose themselves, in this world.
    Common courtesy goes a long way in this world.
     
    FC I understand your feelings and I was like that for many years myself. That is how I was raised.
    After I did my drafted stint in the US Army 69-71, counting my medical hold time, I came out of that with the thought that "Sir" is a gained, earned, salutation and not just for anybody that had a bar or star on their collar and that is how I talked to them.
    The Officer Corps at that time were very varied, some had earned it but at that time many were just OCS or ROTC or some other kind of BULLSHIT Officer program and they were the first to make sure you called them Sir. God knows I hated them, but did have all due respect for the good ones I served with and for, for them, Sir was the first thing out of my mouth.
    To this day I ask ANYONE that calls me "SIR" to not refer to me again with that insult, call me FM, Mike or asshole, just not SIR..
    I am always polite with it and never mention,"I work for a living." or any other shit like that, just let them know I DO NOT like being called Sir.
    It works for me and while I very much respect the Kids or Punks that call me that, after I ask them not to call me that they generally comply.
    So, with that said, maybe I can get aboard this Cunts train if she had asked him kindly several times to not call her that and he was just defying her I might be on her side. Kids can be pricks.
    This makes all I have posted above Moot and MUTE, after thinking about it.
    As Chris Rock said, "I may not agree with it, but, I understand."
     
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    I think Maser has been hanging with 99% Cunts (would explain a lot) :) . They like the term, it's like a getting a Trident for some women. I have observed that any married women with more than 15-20% Cunt is certainly headed for imminent divorce. Any higher than that and divorce turns to murder.

    Mike I am pretty sure most women still don't like the term. Even though they all know they have a little Cunt in them. :)

    Oh trust me I know more than my fair share of cunts. Hell, even from this site. Sad part is the majority of cunts I know in real life and online aren't women.
     
    Maser, that reminds me of a Big black Drill Sgt. I had that stood in front of us one morning and said,"You don't have to be black to be a nigger."
    Shocked me when he said it and I doubt a white or brown Sgt. would get away with it but he did.
    He was standing right in front of and staring at the platoon Sad Sack, Gomer Pyle, Fuck up we had and everybody knew who he was talking about.
     
    I think Maser has been hanging with 99% Cunts (would explain a lot) :) . They like the term, it's like a getting a Trident for some women. I have observed that any married women with more than 15-20% Cunt is certainly headed for imminent divorce. Any higher than that and divorce turns to murder.

    Mike I am pretty sure most women still don't like the term. Even though they all know they have a little Cunt in them. :)
    I had a conversation with a lesbian about that. Evidently she had offended a woman with the C word and got a tongue lashing (not that kind) over it, about how bad the word was and it should never be used.

    I asked "well, was she being a, ah.."

    She filled in the blank for me and by the end of the conversation she even admitted to being a bit cunty herself some times. That seems completely normal.

    I think the same goes for the N word. If it wasn't a thing, it wouldn't be part of the vocabulary in black America.

    Charlie Murphy often described himself as "mad niggerish". I get it, I wouldn't have said it if he hadn't first but it's a good example.

    I don't mind getting sir unless it's being said sarcastically. I'll take the small amount of respect that's put in to the salutation. I can be an asshole sometimes but not so often that I can't handle a little respect when it's aimed at me. I wouldn't demand it for myself, mostly because I don't really care but a teacher should be different and respect is a lesson they should teach which is why this story is so backward.
     
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    Maser, that reminds me of a Big black Drill Sgt. I had that stood in front of us one morning and said,"You don't have to be black to be a nigger."
    Shocked me when he said it and I doubt a white or brown Sgt. would get away with it but he did.
    He was standing right in front of and staring at the platoon Sad Sack, Gomer Pyle, Fuck up we had and everybody knew who he was talking about.

    Well, the late R. Lee Ermey said in Full Metal Jacket that "there is no racial bigotry here" and goes on to say he doesn't look down upon niggers and he was white. I know it's just a movie and all, but from what I know about the movie, Ermey was pretty much going off the script the entire basic training part of the movie and going from what he knew from his time in the USMC.
     
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    Teacher my ass... She's an abomination and shouldn't be in front of children. Who the fuck does that? How does this make national news anyway?
     
    When my son was in first grade, he (we) joined Cub Scouts. In the first meeting, the “Scout Leader” was talking to the boys about what things we’re going to be doing during the year, and talking to the parents about what’s expected of them. I’m in the back of the room just listening and taking notes. From his accent, it was obvious that the leader was from way up North somewhere.
    The leader asked one of the boys a question, and the boy answered “Yes sir.” The leader looked at the boy and said, “Son, you don’t have to say sir to me.”
    My hand immediately shot up and I said “Excuse Me, I don’t know where you’re from, but from your accent, you’re obviously not from around here. You are in the South now, and these boys WILL say ‘Yes Sir, no sir, yes ma’am and no ma’am, and you will be ok with it. As a matter of fact, you will expect it and require it.” I saw a couple parents shaking their heads in agreement.
    We didn’t have any more issues with that the rest of the year.