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"Mid priced" tripod review. Leofoto, RRS, and Reaper parts

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Tripods are a hot topic this year. Everyone lusts after that $1400 RRS setup, but not everyone can afford it. There is not yet alot of info out there on less expensive tripods for shooting. So this thread is another point of reference for the setup I've chosen. I consider this setup mid priced at $555. I did another thread on a budget setup with the innorel RT85c. I also believe that is a great setup for those on a smaller budget, as it includes a ballhead for $252.

What I want in a tripod is lightweight, compact, and steady. One of these requirements may be a detriment to another, so a balance is in order. I do not want a tripod with a "bowl" type center yoke for my use. These typically do not close down as small as I'd like. My main use is more for hunting, and occasionally in matches. I also don't need a tripod that raises above shoulder height, as this adds unnecessary size and weight.

For the tripod, I chose the Leofoto LS 324c. Combined with the Really Right Stuff Universal leveling base, this setup is a few grams shy of 4 pounds. Folded up the total combined length is 22 inches and 3 inches in diameter. The combined LS 324c tripod and RRS head is a perfect fit in the included case. Extended all the way out, it seems to be a good fit for me to shoot from when standing. I'm 6ft 1inch and right at the edge of not having to bend over to shoot standing. If you are a giant, you may want to look at the LS 364c if you do alot of standing shooting. With the legs spread out and closed in, this tripod with the head puts the bottom of your rifle at around 6 inches (same as a low bipod). Perfect

The quality of this tripod is definately a step above the Innorel, but so is the cost. So, that should be expected. I paid $255 for the tripod. It includes a carry case and spiked feet. The leg can be adjusted with only about 1/8 turn of the collars. Very smooth and quick. The leg angle locks are also solid. Overall the fit and finish are great quality on the Leofoto tripods.

For the head, I want all out with the RRS universal leveling base for $300. I looked at some cheaper options, but in reality, nothing comes close. It was worth the premium to me. There are plenty of reviews on the base, And most everyone agrees. My only gripe/wish is that Id like to see this made dual purpose for both ARCA and PIC rails. I really like the butterfly tension knob much better than the bowl models with the handle that sticks down. This head easily locks my 20 pound rifle down solid, with a quick twist. I debated on this head vs an Anvil30 because I was worried about the limited movement with the leveling head. However, I quickly saw that 15degrees of movement is more than enough for my use.
 

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Not all of my rifles have an ARCA rail, as I dont want them to. In my opinion, a metal rail on bottom makes certain rifles uncomfortable to hold. So for these rifles, I wanted a vice head to use with the leveling base. I chose to use the Kopfjaeger Reaper direct mount rest. These have an Arca rail machined into the base, so we dont have to use crappy adapters. Very nice touch. Those guys are also an awesome company to deal with. I actually broke one of their older rests, due to my own negligence, and they went above and beyond to get it fixed. That's why I went with them again, when I decided to buy a direct mount clamp.
 

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Thanks for the review. I've seen the RRS guys hang from their tripod. I know this is extreme but realistically how much weight would you feel comfortable hanging from this tripod without it breaking? Just trying to get a feel for how sturdy it is.

-Dan
 
Not sure on that. but its definately not big enough to hold a grown person's weight. a coyote plus your rifle wont be a problem though.
 
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Might flip a quarter on this or the 365c it’s 150 more for the thicker legs but I also will use more for hunting. Wish someone had both but there’s really no reason lol
 
Might flip a quarter on this or the 365c it’s 150 more for the thicker legs but I also will use more for hunting. Wish someone had both but there’s really no reason lol
the top legs on the 365c are a little thicker, and it goes a little taller. However, the 365c has 5 section legs where the 325c only has 4. The other 4 sections are the size of the 324c legs.

unless you need the extra height, I cant see it being any more stable. but I've been wrong before. I debated on that one as well, and I'd like to see one. I was mostly worried about the extra leg section,, because all the 3 legs section tripods I've seen are more stable that the 4 section tripods, with all else being equal. Its one less point of movement and 1 less tolerance to stack. Therefore, I figure a 5 section vs a 4 section would prove thay true as well. But, if I needed that extra height, Id buy it in a hearbeat
 
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Aaannddd that’s why I love his forum..great points and you saved me 150 bucks lol! No reason to go to the 5 section I mean it could be a little more sturdy but really how
Much ya know.
 
Does the RRS leveling base stay in place on this tripod or does it come loose when you are moving back fourth on multiple targets? Looks like the set screw on your photos does not have a place to secure to the tripod's base plate.
 
Do you have any experience with the Leofoto LH-40 ball head? I checked out this tripod and noticed it’s available with a ball head for 325.

I have zero experience with tripods. This one has interest peaked.
 
the top legs on the 365c are a little thicker, and it goes a little taller. However, the 365c has 5 section legs where the 325c only has 4. The other 4 sections are the size of the 324c legs.

unless you need the extra height, I cant see it being any more stable. bit I've been wrong before. I debated on that one as well, and I'd like to see one. I was mostly worried about the extra leg section,, because all the 3 legs section tripods I've seen are more stable that the 4 section tripods, with all else billing equal. Its one less point of movement. Therefore, I figure a 5 section vs a 4 section would prove thay true as well. But, if I needed that extra height, Id buy it in a hearbeat

I ended up buying a different brand but found the same thing with leg sections. I shot off a 4 leg version and felt it was a little less stable than I wanted. I bought the 3 leg version and the difference in stability was substantial between the two.
they both had the same diameter legs. Again, different brand of tripod but from my point of view buy with the fewest amount of leg sections possible.
 
Does the RRS leveling base stay in place on this tripod or does it come loose when you are moving back fourth on multiple targets? Looks like the set screw on your photos does not have a place to secure to the tripod's base plate.
The base stays put. The set screw in the leveling head catches the very edge of the tripod mounting plate. You can also tap another hole for a set screw in the bottom of the leveling base, if you are handy like that. That's what I had planned to do if it wouldnt stay put
 

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Do you have any experience with the Leofoto LH-40 ball head? I checked out this tripod and noticed it’s available with a ball head for 325.

I have zero experience with tripods. This one has interest peaked.

A friend just purchased the model with the LH40. Its definately much less stable than the RRS leveling base on mine, but it will work. Also takes more turning on the knobs to adjust. But it did hold a 20 pound rifle without slipping once it was tightened down.

I looked at several less expensive ballhead and leveling bases. But I really couldnt find anything to compare to the RRS levelinng base for simplicity and overall stability. I didnt want to spend that kind of money, but I'll say it was worth it
 
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This review is right in line with my requirements. Still trying to figure out exactly what I need. Not sure I understand leveling base vs ball head.

Primary Use - Spotting hits with binoculars.
 
Keep in mind both were designed for photography/videography and adopted for use as a rifle support interface with a tripod.

Leveling base, as its name implies, is designed for create a level base between the tripod and whatever it is supporting. Its range of motion (tilt) is limited to 30 degrees (15 degrees in any direction - forward, aft, left, right). For most flat range applications, this is sufficient, and should you need more in any one direction, you can always change the length of one of the tripod legs. The leveling base passes through the tripod head, so it won't work on a tripod with a center post. You'll also need to ensure the leveling base diameter will fit in the "bowl" of the tripod. The leveling base is locked into position by a twist handle below the base, making it quick and intuitive to use. The leveling base can be partially tensioned allowing movement with tension that holds the mount in place, but my experience has been that with repeated left/right movement the leveling base will tighten or loosen. Leveling bases tend to be about half the cost of a ball head.


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A ball head mount comes in two styles. The original photography designed version (BH-55 shown below left) and the recent RRS lever lock ball head (Anvil-30 shown below right). The original style offers more flexibility because it usually separates the panning movement from the ball head movement. So, you can lock the ball head in any attitude, then pan left/right with little to no drag. In my view this makes it a better platform for your primary use of mounting binos. The lever lock Anvil-30 allows nearly the same range of motion, but applies tension/locks through a single lever. RRS truly innovated with the Anvil-30 bridging the advantages of the leveling base with those of the ball head.

The ball head mount sits above the tripod head which allows 45 degree range of motion (tilt) in any direction. The BH-55 has drop notches which increases range to a full 90 degrees (vertical/straight down). The BH-55 ball head is the gold standard for photography for these reasons. Far more motion than you need for shooting or spotting, but for glassing it is a joy to use.

One note about the leveling base. Because it is tightened via a screw in the same axis as panning (left/right) - repeated panning can tighten and loosen the tension. This isn't a design flaw, it was never designed to move at all after being moved to level - it's original purpose. Nonetheless, it is an effective interface between rifle and tripod, just has its limitations.

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PRAEGER, thank you for bringing that information to light. You answered my question specifically.

budget is $600ish. 90% binos, 10% shooting. Want to buy components that will mate to a high end tripod if I take the leap later.
Priority is stability, cost, weight.

who else makes a leveling base? Think it meets my needs over a ballhead.

Here’s a couple options I’m considering. Interested in everyone’s thoughts. HOGsaddle PIG, Slik, nightstalker Pro:

http://stores.hogsaddle.com/pig0311-g-field-shooting-tripod-od-green/

http://stores.hogsaddle.com/slik-dx700pro-tripod-black/

https://www.nightgoggles.com/shop/s.../night-stalker-pro-shooting-tripod-ball-head/

https://soar.reallyrightstuff.com/ta-2u-leveling-base?quantity=1&custcol15=2
 
PRAEGER, thank you for bringing that information to light. You answered my question specifically.

budget is $600ish. 90% binos, 10% shooting. Want to buy components that will mate to a high end tripod if I take the leap later.
Priority is stability, cost, weight.

who else makes a leveling base? Think it meets my needs over a ballhead.

Here’s a couple options I’m considering. Interested in everyone’s thoughts. HOGsaddle PIG, Slik, nightstalker Pro:

http://stores.hogsaddle.com/pig0311-g-field-shooting-tripod-od-green/

http://stores.hogsaddle.com/slik-dx700pro-tripod-black/

https://www.nightgoggles.com/shop/s.../night-stalker-pro-shooting-tripod-ball-head/

https://soar.reallyrightstuff.com/ta-2u-leveling-base?quantity=1&custcol15=2
One of the best values is the Feisol CT-3372 M2 ($575), with their leveling base, the LB-75100 ($84).
https://www.feisol.net/tripods/elite-tripods/feisol-tripod-ct-3372.html
https://www.feisol.net/heads/leveling-base/feisol-leveling-base-lb-75100.html

You'll still need an arca rail adapter for the leveling base (assuming you'll use an Arca rail) priced between $60 - $120.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/906573-REG/Sunwayfoto_DDC_60i_Screw_Knob_Clamp.html
https://www.feisol.net/accessories/release-clamps/feisol-release-clamp-qrc-50.html
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod..._lever_release_style_quick_release_clamp.html

Over your budget, but not by most.
 
Ive got the 3372 and the RRS leveling head. Its really a great setup.
 
Many thanks for all of the advice. Acknowledge the Feisol is a great tripod.

Intend to go with RRS leveling base. TA-3-LC.
Need something cheap to get started.

Colorado Tripod, Feisol, and RRS carbon fiber tripods are out of my budget.
 
@jtbiv01
Field optics research.

I have not used.
saw a guy who’s opinions I respect say he has been and has been quite satisfied with them.
 
Field Optics Research looks great. Could buy more tripod if I use their leveling base.

anyone with alibis for the F.O.R. leveling bases over the RRS?
 
User Koshkin said he has been with success.
Most who have followed him for a while know him to be a straight shooter and very knowledgable.
 
@317millhand, by chance are you still using the Leofoto LS 324c? If so, how is it holding up? Would be interested in any other long term reviews of this tripod for hunting/shooting purposes. Looking for something in the 3lb range (excluding head). Also considering the Two Vet No Name Jr., its 2.3 lbs.
 
I ended up with the leo364c as well. Pleased with it for the price.

Frank recommends two vets legs and the anvil30 head.

I used the anvil30 head and it’s very very nice?
 
@317millhand, by chance are you still using the Leofoto LS 324c? If so, how is it holding up? Would be interested in any other long term reviews of this tripod for hunting/shooting purposes. Looking for something in the 3lb range (excluding head). Also considering the Two Vet No Name Jr., its 2.3 lbs.
I've got this tripod, bought it mostly for camera use and to dip my toes into the tripod shooting world.
Have never used it with my camera and use it frequently for shooting from....

The tripod is certainly littler built than the larger models that can take a porper leveling base, but I have found it excellent for shooting off.
I have a table that I place a game changer on and find it incredibly stable, yet it folds up nice and compact and isn't heavy to drag around in the field.

I haven't had any issues with it but I don't shoot in excessiviely sandy, muddy, snowy conditions so can't say I have abused it.
Only complaint would be that the legs don't extend high enough for glassing from so you need to use the litttle extension it coems with to comfortable stand behind with binoculars.

Value for money this new combo from Leofoto will be very hard to beat, so long as you are happy supporting them blantantly ripping of RRS designs.

 
Tripods are a hot topic this year. Everyone lusts after that $1400 RRS setup, but not everyone can afford it. There is not yet alot of info out there on less expensive tripods for shooting. So this thread is another point of reference for the setup I've chosen. I consider this setup mid priced at $555. I did another thread on a budget setup with the innorel RT85c. I also believe that is a great setup for those on a smaller budget, as it includes a ballhead for $252.

What I want in a tripod is lightweight, compact, and steady. One of these requirements may be a detriment to another, so a balance is in order. I do not want a tripod with a "bowl" type center yoke for my use. These typically do not close down as small as I'd like. My main use is more for hunting, and occasionally in matches. I also don't need a tripod that raises above shoulder height, as this adds unnecessary size and weight.

For the tripod, I chose the Leofoto LS 324c. Combined with the Really Right Stuff Universal leveling base, this setup is a few grams shy of 4 pounds. Folded up the total combined length is 22 inches and 3 inches in diameter. The combined LS 324c tripod and RRS head is a perfect fit in the included case. Extended all the way out, it seems to be a good fit for me to shoot from when standing. I'm 6ft 1inch and right at the edge of not having to bend over to shoot standing. If you are a giant, you may want to look at the LS 364c if you do alot of standing shooting. With the legs spread out and closed in, this tripod with the head puts the bottom of your rifle at around 6 inches (same as a low bipod). Perfect

The quality of this tripod is definately a step above the Innorel, but so is the cost. So, that should be expected. I paid $255 for the tripod. It includes a carry case and spiked feet. The leg can be adjusted with only about 1/8 turn of the collars. Very smooth and quick. The leg angle locks are also solid. Overall the fit and finish are great quality on the Leofoto tripods.

For the head, I want all out with the RRS universal leveling base for $300. I looked at some cheaper options, but in reality, nothing comes close. It was worth the premium to me. There are plenty of reviews on the base, And most everyone agrees. My only gripe/wish is that Id like to see this made dual purpose for both ARCA and PIC rails. I really like the butterfly tension knob much better than the bowl models with the handle that sticks down. This head easily locks my 20 pound rifle down solid, with a quick twist. I debated on this head vs an Anvil30 because I was worried about the limited movement with the leveling head. However, I quickly saw that 15degrees of movement is more than enough for my use.
The irony of chinese garbage and a IBEW sticker. Cant even make this up.