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Missile defense footage from IRAQ

I've seen that and honestly, it looks fake as hell...why would the forward most C-RAM in the video not fire more frequently, especially given thats the direction threats were coming from?

Layered defense? The magazines in those things empty quick, so I assumed there were multiple systems, layered, so they couldn't be overwhelmed by numbers of rockets/missiles.
 
Layered defense? The magazines in those things empty quick, so I assumed there were multiple systems, layered, so they couldn't be overwhelmed by numbers of rockets/missiles.

Layered defense is logical, but where are the personnel reloading the magazines and why do the rearmost CRAMs fire seemingly nonstop?

The burning contrails, remnant impacts and fires (or lack thereof...), the explosion and fire at 1:15...none of it looks real.
 
nope

contrails and and speed are strange

nothing comes down in a perfect arc
 
There is no way the smoke dissipating like that is real. I like how the smaller part of the explosion alway comes out the bottom and has lite gray smoke. There is one explosion that drags along with the screen when they turn the view.
 
I am sure POTUS and the DoD are just shakin and quakin in their chairs.
 
Last time this was posted or emailed to me it was part of Iron Dome. I admit the smoke looks funny, but at the end you can see something flying off in the upper right hand corner.

Wonder how often barrel swaps are done?
 
Layered defense is logical, but where are the personnel reloading the magazines and why do the rearmost CRAMs fire seemingly nonstop?

The burning contrails, remnant impacts and fires (or lack thereof...), the explosion and fire at 1:15...none of it looks real.

All I can say from experience is that those things will shoot, and continue shooting, anything large enough, and fast enough, to register on the radar and meet minimum velocity settings.

We killed a guy on the (old) USS Iwo Jima once, when the target drone broke in half, passing in between us and the fantail of the Iwo. The system just reacquired the falling debris and let loose. 20mm's of DU made for a bad day for the two guys on the fantail watch....

This was circa 1990'ish...
 
The fact people think this could be real concerns me for the future. As deep fake technology improves there’s no telling how it could be used nefariously. This clip is from the PC video game Arma 3.
 
After Watching the fire and smoke decay once the incoming debris hits the ground I do believe this is all FX. Viewing on the big screen now makes it obvious.
 
Missles- exploding tubes with engines and fins.

I wonder why they don't come down in perfectly defined arcs...
 
The fact people think this could be real concerns me for the future. As deep fake technology improves there’s no telling how it could be used nefariously. This clip is from the PC video game Arma 3.
This. Didn’t know it was from a game but I curls tell within 10 seconds this was animated. Some of y’all need to clean the cataracts out of your eyes
 
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During my younger days this was state of the art in the German Bundeswehr:



The video does not mention that the muzzle devices on both auto-cannons measure the actual bullet velocity and feed this info back into the fire-control computer. You can bet that this technology has been refined to perfection in the following decades.

Like a clay shooter, you are not shooting at a target, you put a bullet cloud in a space where it arrives at the same time as the target. Therefore, you not only have to predict the trajectory of the target but also the trajectory and flight time of your projectiles. The slower your projectiles, the more lead (action of a leader, not metal with the symbol "Pb") is necessary and of course more elevation to compensate for the drop.

Please PM if your are interested in tinkering around with off-the-shelf hardware and custom code/firmware to accurately hit 'mover' targets of unknown distance and speed.
 
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Watchin the real CRAM footage a few posts above, I assume these projectiles have an explosive warhead that's either programed in as needed or have a proximity fuse or both. Anyone know the details?
 
Watchin the real CRAM footage a few posts above, I assume these projectiles have an explosive warhead that's either programed in as needed or have a proximity fuse or both. Anyone know the details?

It's a time delay to artificially limit the range so they don't just land somewhere at random and detonate.
 
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During my younger days this was state of the art in the German Bundeswehr:



The video does not mention that the muzzle devices on both auto-cannons measure the actual bullet velocity and feed this info back into the fire-control computer. You can bet that this technology has been refined to perfection in the following decades.

Like a clay shooter, you are not shooting at a target, you put a bullet cloud in a space where it arrives at the same time as the target. Therefore, you not only have to predict the trajectory of the target but also the trajectory and flight time of your projectiles. The slower your projectiles, the more lead (action of a leader, not metal with the symbol "Pb") is necessary and of course more elevation to compensate for the drop.

Please PM if your are interested in tinkering around with off-the-shelf hardware and custom code/firmware to accurately hit 'mover' targets.


LOL saw 2 of those on rail car beds in Prizren when coming through for a deployment. On the way out, they were both still sitting there, on the rail car bed.
 
I had a buddy send this to me. The dead giveaway to me was the explosions when the debris hit the ground, it was not even movie quality computer graphics obviously a video game level of grahics. The fire was the same everytime almost seemed like the footage was a loop