Well you read it, is it possible? I'm looking for a base class rimfire me and my 10yr old son can share at a match. The only viable option I've really seen is the ruger RPRR which would fit the bill perfectly if I wasnt so concerned with the spotty barrel performance. Any thoughts or ideas? I really don't want to drop the coin on multiple guns currently so yall dont worry about that option ?
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You are correct it would not fall in that price range. The at one would be a solid choice.
My son and I shot a t1x in krg bravo last match.
That moved it into the open class because of the stock change, right? This may be my only option it seems
Tikka T1x factory will do just fine with decent glass.
I run a Cabela's Covenant on mine in base class
Or a CZ457 pro varmint with decent glass would work great also
I run a Cabela's Covenant on mine in base class
Or a CZ457 pro varmint with decent glass would work great also
The only thing that you might want to consider is length of pull. It's not easily adjustable during a match on the Bravo.
Savage is cheap and quite accurate. But it’s not in the same league as a Tikka or CZ rifle.
You're allowed to modify your stock and remain in base class. Just not allowed to add an ARCA rail or make it stiffer.
The Tikka T1X is a great and accurate base rifle. You can pick up a kydex cheek riser that's pretty easy to install - https://amzn.to/2ULWoWl this will allow you to adjust the comb for you or your son.
Additionally, maybe this might help ergos some too - https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...g-tool-less-buttpad-height-mechanism.6916456/
Doesn't get you much LoP, but might help.
The Tikka T1X is a great and accurate base rifle. You can pick up a kydex cheek riser that's pretty easy to install - https://amzn.to/2ULWoWl this will allow you to adjust the comb for you or your son.
Additionally, maybe this might help ergos some too - https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...g-tool-less-buttpad-height-mechanism.6916456/
Doesn't get you much LoP, but might help.
Assuming he has a shorter length of pull than you, you will have to accommodate his length. As too long of a LOP is no-Bueno. Instead, you can use the sorter LOP, just hold it off your shoulder a bit. My girlfriend and I share a rifle. It's an inch short for me, but I still make my hits.
This is what I'm going to do, set it up for him and make due until I can get a 2nd gun
I recommend getting the 24" barrel version! Better balance on the bags! Free recoil FTW!
Great question OP. My solution to this was to size the rifle properly to him. Having more experience behind a variety of rifles, it is easier for me to manipulate one with too short a LOP than it is for him to struggle with one that is too long. I'd rather fit him properly than halfass fit us both. We've since each got our own and he prefers the MKII.
I have a MKii FV-SR and it is a real shooter. I love shooting with CZs as they can't stand being out shot by a Savage.
Savage b22 precision is the only other gun besides the rprr I can think of that would leave you in base class with money for a scope.. maybe the cz at-one, but I don’t remember it’s price..
just checked.. cz msrp is $660, savage msrp is $600. Cz typically has a better reputation for accuracy, but I constantly hear about savages that shoot great, and this one comes with a chassis.
... my 13year old and I shoot the same gun just fine, but my 11yr son has a difficult time with the same gun. Problem is seeing through the scope.. his eye just doesn’t line up in the right place. Your definitely gonna want something fully adjustable.
just checked.. cz msrp is $660, savage msrp is $600. Cz typically has a better reputation for accuracy, but I constantly hear about savages that shoot great, and this one comes with a chassis.
... my 13year old and I shoot the same gun just fine, but my 11yr son has a difficult time with the same gun. Problem is seeing through the scope.. his eye just doesn’t line up in the right place. Your definitely gonna want something fully adjustable.
My 10 year old, 15 year old, and I all shoot the same Kidd 10/22 in a magpul stock. I know "Hey, that's not a base class rifle!" I mention this only to say that you can get one rifle that is set up so that it is shootable by a range of shooters. Set it up for the smallest shooter. If you really need it, wear one of those recoil pads for some extra lop.
Then again, is there a reason to stay in base class? With one gun and 2 shooters, you've got lots of budget- at least relative to buying 2 guns.
Then again, is there a reason to stay in base class? With one gun and 2 shooters, you've got lots of budget- at least relative to buying 2 guns.
Base class keeps less serious folks from needing to get into the equipment war to be remotely competitive.
Honestly, I wish there was this option for centerfire competition.
Honestly, I wish there was this option for centerfire competition.
If you're in it for prize drawings, then yes base class could be rewarding. We have multiple rimfire matches nearby, and none of them offer any prizes. $10-20 entry fee and just have fun shooting.
I was a new shooter this year, started shooting in June. My first rifle was a Tikka T1X in a KRG Bravo. Instantly bumped me to Open Class. But I enjoyed shooting it. My time / enjoyment / skill building, is worth much more than trying to get a prize drawing every month. At the end of the day you're really only competing with yourself. Someone else's ability to hit a shot, doesn't have any affect on you hitting or missing.
Perfect!!! I'm slowly getting all my ideas together with everyone's help
True. But I like free schwag for little investment. Read: I’m cheap.
That said, I’d be deeeep into the open class if I was brave enough to shoot my single shots in NRL22.
The new KRG 10/22 bravo will have a short LOP with a quick adjustment. I plan on running that with my daughter. The Kidd barrel and bolt provides pretty good accuracy. Will not be a production set up, but I am just out to have some fun.
I vote for the Tikka T1X
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And I think you should get two. One for each of you.
The Tikkas compete way out of their weight class. All your money is for the action/barrel/trigger. The stock leaves a lot to be desired but can be modded up to work just fine. It also gives you room to move up in classes with a simple chassis change.
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And I think you should get two. One for each of you.
The Tikkas compete way out of their weight class. All your money is for the action/barrel/trigger. The stock leaves a lot to be desired but can be modded up to work just fine. It also gives you room to move up in classes with a simple chassis change.
I can recommend the Ruger American as that is what my son shoots with a Hawke subsonic bdc on top and prime ammo. He got 276/500 on the February nrl22 cof to top the juniors at our club. That being said the t1x is awesome both stock and in a bravo.
I agree, the tikka T1x is definitely the one I will be going with for this project. And as badly as I want this to not turn into a 2 gun race it looks like I may just not have a choice, lol! Trying to find something that will work for both of us is proving to be a lesson in futility. So i'm assuming by your choice above you prefer the 16.5" barrel model over the longer options on the t1x?I vote for the Tikka T1X
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And the Athlon Argos 6-24
10 yard parallax
Argos BTR 6-24×50 APMR | Precision Rifle Scope
The Argos BTR line of scopes have high end features for an affordable price, making them perfect for your go-to precision rifle scope.
$948 MSRP total.
And I think you should get two. One for each of you.
The Tikkas compete way out of their weight class. All your money is for the action/barrel/trigger. The stock leaves a lot to be desired but can be modded up to work just fine. It also gives you room to move up in classes with a simple chassis change.
The long range?
I don't understand the question. If it's how far out he has taken it, then that would be 125 yards. I don't have group info for that. He hits really well out to 100 on steel as in the match.
Sorry about that. I was curious which model Ruger he is shooting? I didn't know if you were referencing the Ruger long range model pictured just above your post.
It is the ruger American Rimfire standard with 22"bbl. We put a riser on to bring the weld up. Even the high comb option wasn't quite enough. We went with a velcro tactical model and I have heard good things about the kydex like Matthew's fabrication.
None of us early adopters of the Tikka had the choice of a 16.5" barrel. We all bought the 20". If you're shooting NRL22, get a 16.5". Extra length doesn't buy you anything. If I had optimal choice of barrel length, it'd be 18", but between 16.5 and 20, definitely 16.5"
Only the 20" was available when I purchased. I prefer the aesthetic of the 16" but you get a little more forward weight with the 20" and the barrels are light. Either would work. The 16" may have an advantage moving in and out of barricades but that's not a huge concern as there just aren't that many barricades where you need the short length. I did go with a 18" barrel w/ my Vudoo but it's a very heavy barrel profile. 13.5 lbs. heavy. Total weight.
Edit: NOT a 16" Vudoo barrel, 18".
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What?? Where are you guys finding the 16”? I ordered a t1x yesterday and my lgs had to try a few places to find the 20” in stock but found no mention of the 16”.
perfect info, that's what I needed
Well that makes me feel better with whatever choice I end up going with. The ultimate goal after shooting base class for a while is to drop the t1x into an MPA chassis to mimic my large rifle for a trainer and you can get weight kits for them so I could work around the lighter barrelOnly the 20" was available when I purchased. I prefer the aesthetic of the 16" but you get a little more forward weight with the 20" and the barrels are light. Either would work. The 16" may have an advantage moving in and out of barricades but that's not a huge concern as there just aren't that many barricades where you need the short length. I did go with a 18" barrel w/ my Vudoo but it's a very heavy barrel profile. 13.5 lbs. heavy. Total weight.
Edit: NOT a 16" Vudoo barrel, 18".
For the op, it sounds like you are leaning towards the Tikka.
You may want to consider a second smaller gun for your son. A couple hundred plus another hundred for a scope and you’ll have a gun that fits your son properly, is accurate enough for as good as a ten year old will shoot, and that won’t suck too bad when he outgrows it in a couple years..
personally, as I’m getting a new gun for myself and older son, I’m going to re-fit my Savage mkii g for my younger son.. he’s not going to be competing in anything so may just go back to the iron sights for awhile. If I have to take some off the stock, it’s not a huge deal, since the gun was pretty cheap to start. When he outgrows it, I’ll put it away till it’s time for grandkids..
You may want to consider a second smaller gun for your son. A couple hundred plus another hundred for a scope and you’ll have a gun that fits your son properly, is accurate enough for as good as a ten year old will shoot, and that won’t suck too bad when he outgrows it in a couple years..
personally, as I’m getting a new gun for myself and older son, I’m going to re-fit my Savage mkii g for my younger son.. he’s not going to be competing in anything so may just go back to the iron sights for awhile. If I have to take some off the stock, it’s not a huge deal, since the gun was pretty cheap to start. When he outgrows it, I’ll put it away till it’s time for grandkids..
Im in Nocona right up the road. I have a Vudoo you and your son can shoot in matches if you want. Send me a PM we shoot 22s all the time close to you. Ill send you my number if you want
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I sent you my number give me a call we will be shooting this weekend
Just when I thought I had my mind made up. I have been trying to put together my first 22 competition rifle for NRL22 as well. I really like the idea of Base Class so was looking at the Tikka T1X, CZ457 AT-One, or the CZ 457 Pro Varmint Suppressor Ready. I understand this is somewhat a Ford vs Chevy deal, but would love to hear your thoughts on both.
Thanks much in advance
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Thanks much in advance
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I love mine. Rifle snobs will scoff at it, but when I shoot just as well as his $5000 setup he shuts up. There's always gonna be haters.
I own a CZ and a Savage Mk2 and I LOVE both. NO the savage is not the same aesthetically or feel wise, but my savage is just as, if not more accurate.
I bought my FVSR on sale for $250 out the door. Put a used Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4-16x on it for $300, and Put it in a Boyds AT-One stock for $250 with the upgrade palm swell and fore end. Sooooo I'm at $800 total for a legit setup.
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As I understand it the on sale or used prices won't work for the totals for NRL. You must use MSRP for all figures.....?
Ok so like $863ish dollars. Still under the Limit
You can't change the stock and be in base class. So it's MSRP of a sold setup. So unless they sell a MKII in an AtOne as a factory option, you can't piece together your own rifle for NRL22 base.
You could also just not shoot base class (which is what I did).
You could also just not shoot base class (which is what I did).
