"the 2nd Amendment of food,"

It will be interesting how this squares when the Federal Government decides to tell folks that the federal government can decide they are not allowed to grow food and must starve. (As per one of the most vile Supreme Court rulings).

In the end, hopefully people come to realize their own right to survival is greater than any right the government, the courts or the oppressor class have to exist.

Fuck around with peoples' gun rights: A lot of folks are slow to respond.

Fuck around with peoples' ease of movement across states/provinces etc: Once again, a lot of folks are slow to respond.

Fuck around with peoples' jobs: Slow response as well, but more people tend to perk up and realize something fucky is going on.

Fuck around with peoples' food and ability to feed their families: You want war and French Revolution style shit? This is how you get war and French Revolution style shit...

Blue Sky Country said:

Fuck around with peoples' food and ability to feed their families: You want war and French Revolution style shit? This is how you get war and French Revolution style shit...

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One would hope that would be the case.

Unfortunately the majority of the population are ignorant sheep who think food is something that the government makes magically appear on grocery store shelves and of course the government should go after anyone "threatening the food supply" by growing their own food without government permission...

Did anyone rise up to help the small independent organic farmers when the government goons were raiding their farms at machine gun point in the middle of the night to essentially say "better not produce and sell milk if you are not a giant corporation, or we will murder your whole family"?
Did you hear any peeps out of all the "good" folks???

This world is full of weak people, and even worse, weak people that glory in their weakness and hate anyone strong and want to see the strong destroyed.

Humanity is long overdue to reap in full the results of their sloth, greed, stupidity, ignorance, envy and laziness. Nobody is coming to save humans, they are going to die off by the billions. The best the strong folks can do is save themselves and their own families if they can.

Fed gubment already controls major farming and has for decades. You get your allotment and crop type, or you don’t get subsidized and sad to say, most big farms wouldn’t survive today without that help. Or that’s how I understand it. Someone with more experience please correct me if wrong

Blue Sky Country said:

Fuck around with peoples' gun rights: A lot of folks are slow to respond.

Fuck around with peoples' ease of movement across states/provinces etc: Once again, a lot of folks are slow to respond.

Fuck around with peoples' jobs: Slow response as well, but more people tend to perk up and realize something fucky is going on.

Fuck around with peoples' food and ability to feed their families: You want war and French Revolution style shit? This is how you get war and French Revolution style shit...

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They can always eat cake.......

Not even going to read that mess.

I'm in charge of what I eat

how can it not be a right

how can it not be a right? I agree but Supreme Court may not

https://www.roberthjackson.org/opin...urt-wickard-v-filburn-317-u-s-111-nov-9-1942/

It's their full intent to make you dependent.
Too think anything else is fukin stupid.
Jusayin....

540 politicians vs 330 million hungry people

9 meals is all it takes.

Just read about this.

Passing it does not seem to be to difficult.

Enforcing it against the gubmint might be more difficult

johnnycat said:

how can it not be a right? I agree but Supreme Court may not

https://www.roberthjackson.org/opin...urt-wickard-v-filburn-317-u-s-111-nov-9-1942/

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Let's see what will happen to the enforcers

Hobo Hilton said:

Appearing there are some visionaries in Maine that know where the Government control is heading...

Is there a constitutional right to food? Mainers to decide

Depending on whom you ask, Maine’s proposed "right to food" constitutional amendment would simply put people in charge of how and what they eat — or would endanger animals and food supplies, and turn urban neighborhoods into cattle pastures.

www.foxnews.com

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They'll probably come up with some Interstate Commerce stuff about how a guy in Maine who has a pig in his backyard is affecting the economy of Texas.

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They'll probably come up with some Interstate Commerce stuff about how a guy in Maine who has a pig in his backyard is affecting the economy of Texas.

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Yes - that is pretty much exactly what SCOTUS said in the 1940's decision I posted above - even if what you are growing is for your own personal use, it affects the overall "market" and is therefore able to be regulated by the government.

If they would actually use the 2nd amendment you wouldn't have to worry about food or anything else for that matter.

Thank god I live out in the country and have groceries walking around the woods and fields around my house. Hell, I shot 15 deer this summer on a dep permit. There were 24 in the field 200 yards from my house last night. I do need to start gardening though.

abn31c said:

It's their full intent to make you dependent.
Too think anything else is fukin stupid.
Jusayin....

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This is exactly where this and everything else is going. You are a servant and we let it happen because, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" works every fucking time.

Vax and tax me harder daddy, I'm scared to leave my house.

People, the great reset is being set up right now...better wake the fuck up.

Tax my food and I'll tac you life.....

Poppa's gotta eat.......

And I got banned for my suggestions on how to deal with lawyers. Sheesh.

johnnycat said:

how can it not be a right? I agree but Supreme Court may not

https://www.roberthjackson.org/opin...urt-wickard-v-filburn-317-u-s-111-nov-9-1942/

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Mother fuckers have forgotten who works for who.

Granted, this is anecdotal and from talk radio, but I heard a farmer from Washington stating that he and other farmers are having problems acquiring fertilizer.
There is more than a legislative way to control your food supply, and let's not forget states that wanted to stop people from collecting rain water. Water wells are also a future concern, as there has been talk of metering their use, similar to electricity.
Any ideas as to why bill gates is the largest private owner of farmland in the U.S.A.?

When you have the 2nd amendment... you don't need a "2nd amendment of food"

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how can it not be a right

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You are thinking about this wrong.

If food is a right, than the govt can tax you to 'redistribute' food to those who don't have it to 'protect their rights'.

In other words I can spend all my money on hookers and blow but you have to feed me because I have my 'food rights'

Just as nefarious as the right to 'health care'--on paper seems like a good idea. In practice: tyranny.

DocRDS said:

You are thinking about this wrong.

If food is a right, than the govt can tax you to 'redistribute' food to those who don't have it to 'protect their rights'.

In other words I can spend all my money on hookers and blow but you have to feed me because I have my 'food rights'

Just as nefarious as the right to 'health care'--on paper seems like a good idea. In practice: tyranny.

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It's just another example of how the new right has become fundamentally Marxist in its view of nearly everything.

DocRDS said:

You are thinking about this wrong.

If food is a right, than the govt can tax you to 'redistribute' food to those who don't have it to 'protect their rights'.

In other words I can spend all my money on hookers and blow but you have to feed me because I have my 'food rights'

Just as nefarious as the right to 'health care'--on paper seems like a good idea. In practice: tyranny.

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I see that but restrictions on growing and developing your own is insane

Maybe ignore laws and regulations that violate your inalienable right to live.

308pirate said:

Maybe ignore laws and regulations that violate your inalienable right to live.

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Pretty sure that's against the law.

RUTGERS95 said:

I see that but restrictions on growing and developing your own is insane

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The previous citation of Wickard v Filburn is one of, if not THE most egregious expansion of power in United States History and the source of many of the "self-growning" restrictions.

It directly violates "the pursuit of happiness".

You have the right to grown your own food. Its is being infringed by Wickard v Filburn decision.:

Primary Holding
An activity does not need to have a direct effect on interstate commerce to fall within the commerce power, as long as the effect is substantial and economic.

What is substantial? We'll let you know plebe.

KZP said:

Pretty sure that's against the law.

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Oh well, in for a penny might as well go in for a pound.

DocRDS said:

The previous citation of Wickard v Filburn is one of, if not THE most egregious expansion of power in United States History and the source of many of the "self-growning" restrictions.

It directly violates "the pursuit of happiness".

You have the right to grown your own food. Its is being infringed by Wickard v Filburn decision.:

Primary Holding
An activity does not need to have a direct effect on interstate commerce to fall within the commerce power, as long as the effect is substantial and economic.

What is substantial? We'll let you know plebe.

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After the first felony, the rest are free.

So used to say a wise man here.

johnnycat said:

how can it not be a right? I agree but Supreme Court may not

https://www.roberthjackson.org/opin...urt-wickard-v-filburn-317-u-s-111-nov-9-1942/

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holy shnikes (you all know I actually meant 'shit' but whatever)

this smells worse than ObamaCare....and shit...

Supreme Court: Jackson wrote the unanimous opinion for the Court, which expanded the power of Congress to regulate economic activity, even to local activities like growing wheat for personal use. Jackson reasoned that even though the wheat itself did not enter the interstate commerce market Congress had the ability to regulate commodity prices and practices. Filburn was indirectly affecting the national market by growing wheat for personal use that he otherwise would have purchased on the open market, as well such personal growths could easily enter the interstate market thereby affecting the market price directly.

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IMHO the biggest part of the Maine ballot initiative is "All individuals have a natural, inherent and unalienable right to food, including the right to save and exchange seeds".

Monsanto really screwed everyone in the courts already, this could really get interesting.

Organic Seed Growers and Trade Association, et al., v. Monsanto Company, et al. Supreme Court Case No. 13-303


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court upheld Monsanto Co's biotech seed patents on Monday, dealing a blow to a group of organic farmers and other activists trying to stop the biotech company from suing farmers if their fields contain a few plants containing the company's genetically modified traits.

The Organic Seed Growers and Trade Association and a group of dozens of organic and conventional family farmers, seed companies and public advocacy interests sued Monsanto in March 2011. The suit sought to prohibit the company from suing farmers whose fields became inadvertently contaminated with corn, soybeans, cotton, canola and other crops containing Monsanto's genetic modifications.



https://www.rt.com › usa › monsanto-patents-sue-farmers-547
Supreme Court hands Monsanto victory over farmers on GMO seed patents, ability to sue. The US Supreme Court upheld biotech giant Monsanto's claims on genetically-engineered seed patents and the company's ability to sue farmers whose fields are inadvertently contaminated with Monsanto materials.

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The ballot measure would add a Section 25 to Article I of the Maine Constitution. The following underlined text would be added:[1]

There is no such thing as a free ride or there should not be .