The first drill in this video seems to be very risky to me. I guess the results mean more than the risk. Still though....
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oh sure...
when the russians do it, its "training"
when i do it, im "drunk and disorderly"
when the russians do it, its "training"
when i do it, im "drunk and disorderly"
Could have used them in Florida last week? Maybe UPS can hire them for drivers?
Doesn't BUDS have something like only 20% make it through training and graduate?
I wonder how many Russians don't make it home for supper?
I wonder how many Russians don't make it home for supper?
Pretty sure that there is no such as OSHA in Russia but I get what you're saying.
They're not lying when they say the cause of death is a training incident.
Legit.
Man you have to really trust your training partner........holy shit Batman!
Did I see correctly the part when the "shooter" was being harassed that he fired a round into the ground directly below himself? Was this to distract his aggressors? Or an accident discharge? Couldn't you frag yourself on loose rocks, metal decking or concrete? Just wondering?? Too crazy for me, but I get it.
I seem to recall one Sonny P. that took this sort of training to reality in a shoothouse.... with a poor result.
Nothing wrong with training how you fight or intend to fight.
How about during a training mission skid loaded people are on a hot INFIL, run forward (12 o'clock) of the helo landing uphill ending up with cranial contact to the rotor system to which OPS have to shut down until daylight to inspect the helo and all the other safety investigation things that need to be done.
How about during a real world mission helo pilots coming in so hot they land short to rip off the tail rotor.....Oh ...yea....we all saw that one on the news.
Poor Ranger mortar team guys with a mortar base plate on their back trying to fast rope 75' to the ground. They hold the rope all the way down either hit the ground just about square on the base plate, or land on the guy that's "too slow" to roll out the way.
There's a price to pay.....equipment or people.....it all gets paid for one way or another.
How about during a training mission skid loaded people are on a hot INFIL, run forward (12 o'clock) of the helo landing uphill ending up with cranial contact to the rotor system to which OPS have to shut down until daylight to inspect the helo and all the other safety investigation things that need to be done.
How about during a real world mission helo pilots coming in so hot they land short to rip off the tail rotor.....Oh ...yea....we all saw that one on the news.
Poor Ranger mortar team guys with a mortar base plate on their back trying to fast rope 75' to the ground. They hold the rope all the way down either hit the ground just about square on the base plate, or land on the guy that's "too slow" to roll out the way.
There's a price to pay.....equipment or people.....it all gets paid for one way or another.
Heh, noticed that too
I remember reading a story where the Queen of England played hostage in a SAS live-fire exercise; bullets hitting the cardboard terrorists right next to her. Can't find thas particular story but this one sounds similar.
The apple shot (off his son's head) by William Tell is still a European metaphor for expert marksmanship and confidence.
The apple shot (off his son's head) by William Tell is still a European metaphor for expert marksmanship and confidence.
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Are you talking about the slo-mo at like 3:45 in the video?? Cause he does the same thing at like 4:45 in the video.
Advanced drill my ass. That's just doing stupid shit with firearms and calling it training. Impress the yankee.
I wonder how long it'll be before some Bubba winds up in the ER trying to mimic this shit. Russia and their speshul forses.
I wonder how long it'll be before some Bubba winds up in the ER trying to mimic this shit. Russia and their speshul forses.
During the USSR's day, about 10% casualties a year was acceptable in training. Think about that.
A lot of it was miscommunication, since most conscripts didn't speak Russian, so had no clue what their officers and senior NCO's were saying. Russian spans 14 time zones; there's a lot of different languages spoken there. Add to that, that conscripts were shipped to distant units for their service (so it was difficult to desert, and reinforced unit cohesion with other conscripts from the same area) and you have a recipe for some pretty high casualty numbers. I still remember that they trained with live nerve agents when we trained with CS...they weeded out the dumb ones pretty quickly.
A lot of it was miscommunication, since most conscripts didn't speak Russian, so had no clue what their officers and senior NCO's were saying. Russian spans 14 time zones; there's a lot of different languages spoken there. Add to that, that conscripts were shipped to distant units for their service (so it was difficult to desert, and reinforced unit cohesion with other conscripts from the same area) and you have a recipe for some pretty high casualty numbers. I still remember that they trained with live nerve agents when we trained with CS...they weeded out the dumb ones pretty quickly.
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