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Winchester Model 70 National Match

Calfed

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I've always had a thing for the Winchester model 70 match target rifles. I finally got a chance at one for a decent price and won this one at auction last month. Luckily I have an unused Redfield International rear sight and an Olympic front tunnel sight.
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Very cool!
Push Feed good, and you can single-feed without having to pick-up Round off the follower .
Pre 64’s can function push feed style without damage. ie push ctg into chamber without damage.

Thanks, guys. A friend who is a gunsmith voiced the same to me. Despite some people's preference for the pre-64 Model 70, the post 63 is a perfectly fine rifle.
 
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What caliber?
When I got it, it was in .30-338. but, I didn't know that. I was told it was a .308 Norma. So, I bought a set of .308 Norma brass for it. The brass didn't fit. Did I mention I didn't know what the actual size was of .30-338 either? Yeah, 7mm Rem Mag is the same case as the .338 Win, aaaannnd the .264 Win Mag.

Anyhow, I had Jim Kobe of Bloomington MN punch it out to .308 Norma for me. One of THE most accurate rifles I have. One hole groups @200 if you can take the beating. It's not bad, but certainly not easy holding 20 shot tight groups with the recoil it dishes out. It's still in storage out in Idaho. All I have are pics right now.

All said and done, I would have left it in .30-338 had I known. Gunstop Reloading and firearms had the dies I needed to shoot it. Pickup 7mm RM or even good new 7mm RM was easy to obtain.
 
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The California DROS system finally rendered unto Calfed what is Calfed's...including the Winchester target model. Did find a not-to-deep rub mark on the pistol grip, along with a few small dings in the stock. Other than that, the Winchester is pretty much in showroom condition.
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I love that rifle!

I gotta ask. I just took my Winchester 70 apart to change the trigger on it. I got a Timney Win 70 MOA trigger. Well it can't be installed as it's .355" wide. The slot where my Win 70's trigger goes is .250". Do you think I got a wrong part or is there an MOA model that has a different trigger slot?
 
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The California DROS system finally rendered unto Calfed what is Calfed's...including the Winchester target model. Did find a not-to-deep rub mark on the pistol grip, along with a few small dings in the stock. Other than that, the Winchester is pretty much in showroom condition.View attachment 7308684View attachment 7308685View attachment 7308686View attachment 7308687View attachment 7308688View attachment 7308689

Is it a G prefix serial number with the anti-bind bolt,

Or a 64-65 with non-anti bind bolt ?

That is a beautiful rifle.

@sandwarrior

I have a clip slotted 64-65 action with both 06 bolt and magnum bolt, so it could go either caliber, cross course, or long range with fitted quick change barrels. It was last a 300wm.
The old Marksman stock disappeared somewhere along the line. Those are amazing guns.

@Calfed
You have an amazing piece of history.
 
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I love that rifle!

I gotta ask. I just took my Winchester 70 apart to change the trigger on it. I got a Timney Win 70 MOA trigger. Well it can't be installed as it's .355" wide. The slot where my Win 70's trigger goes is .250". Do you think I got a wrong part or is there an MOA model that has a different trigger slot?

If you buy a later model's trigger guard, it will have a wider slot. Early guns were narrow.

Since your rifle is no longer in the original config, there is nothing wrong with neatly nicely milling the slot out to fit your new trigger. It's not going affect the value.
 
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Pre 64’s can function push feed style without damage. ie push ctg into chamber without damage.
Is the extractor made of a different steel than Mausers or something? It just seems like, on many American CRF rifles, its no big deal to single feed rounds w/out using the magazine, but a big no-no on Mausers?
 
If you buy a later model's trigger guard, it will have a wider slot. Early guns were narrow.

Since your rifle is no longer in the original config, there is nothing wrong with neatly nicely milling the slot out to fit your new trigger. It's not going affect the value.
I should see if that thing will drop into my FN PBR?

When I saw it wouldn't work, I cleaned up the whole trigger assembly (as long as I had it apart) and it felt like there was this tiny burr on the point where the trigger meets the sear. So, I stoned that ever so slightly then polished and put it all back together. Once I got it adjusted again, it's a very nice trigger now. I also smoothed up the sear release boss. That was rough also.

Maybe there's a use for this thing after all? Thanks again for the help.
 
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Difficult to improve a properly adjusted Win 70 factory trigger.
I'm not sure I was clear. It's not the trigger guard slot. It's the slot the trigger pins into on the action. Sorry for that. I just went down and checked my PBR and it's a no-go too. .250" wide slot. Guess the trigger will be going back. It's a Timney with a straight trigger. And, as mentioned about .350" wide. I'm not going to mill out the trigger slot as it doesn't seem all that thick. Not to mention, I don't have access to a mill either.

In the meantime, I thought I'd post up an original ad for Calfeds benefit. Who knows he might be as old as this add?;)
 
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I'm not sure I was clear. It's not the trigger guard slot. It's the slot the trigger pins into on the action. Sorry for that. I just went down and checked my PBR and it's a no-go too. .250" wide slot. Guess the trigger will be going back. It's a Timney with a straight trigger. And, as mentioned about .350" wide. I'm not going to mill out the trigger slot as it doesn't seem all that thick. Not to mention, I don't have access to a mill either.

In the meantime, I thought I'd post up an original ad for Calfeds benefit. Who knows he might be as old as this add?;)

Probably older :)
 
Is it a G prefix serial number with the anti-bind bolt,

Or a 64-65 with non-anti bind bolt ?

That is a beautiful rifle.

@sandwarrior

I have a clip slotted 64-65 action with both 06 bolt and magnum bolt, so it could go either caliber, cross course, or long range with fitted quick change barrels. It was last a 300wm.
The old Marksman stock disappeared somewhere along the line. Those are amazing guns.

@Calfed
You have an amazing piece of history.

Thanks, j. huskey. It is a 700,000 series s/n. I'll pm you with it.
 
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I'm not sure I was clear. It's not the trigger guard slot. It's the slot the trigger pins into on the action. Sorry for that. I just went down and checked my PBR and it's a no-go too. .250" wide slot. Guess the trigger will be going back. It's a Timney with a straight trigger. And, as mentioned about .350" wide. I'm not going to mill out the trigger slot as it doesn't seem all that thick. Not to mention, I don't have access to a mill either.

In the meantime, I thought I'd post up an original ad for Calfeds benefit. Who knows he might be as old as this add?;)
Although you're probably aware of it by now, the Timney MOA is a replacement for the model 70 factory " MOA " trigger on late models. Why Winchester thought they needed to " improve " the model 70 trigger is beyond me.
 
Man that is a beautiful rifle! I have a 10x Unertl laying around that would look great on that!
 
Something cool, Van Orden’s grandson posted it. Speaks to how many rifles the Corps ordered, and what’s left in inventory if they need more.
 

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