I don't want to see some screenshot from a phone. That shit is easy as fuck to fake.
How about a copy of the real memo, on Zeiss stationery, with a signature? Then we have something
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I don't want to see some screenshot from a phone. That shit is easy as fuck to fake.
How about a copy of the real memo, on Zeiss stationery, with a signature? Then we have something
So only pics of unmounted optics sitting in the display case covered with a layer of dust? 
Vell… zose evil Mausers vit zee cheekpieceze are very schkarie!!!
Achtung, another Zeiss! Someone will get fired for this!
Seriously… hope their “verified” memo is a troll. Because they are a great optics maker with a lot of history. Maybe just young Horst with the manbun and the avocado strudel… you know the new kid in marketing… is a bit woke and sent out something stupid.
They can send him to the cooler…. I mean give him a reprimand… and drive on.
Poor Horst.
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Didn't Frank post something to the effect that there are people that come on here with coordinated efforts to make a brand look bad?
I mean conceivably could this not just be yet another smear campaign?
I mean conceivably could this not just be yet another smear campaign?
real or not, one employee's opinion means what?
he obviously knows or thinks his fellow employees have, do and use all the things he doesn't want them to post, so what does that say?
he wants to avoid the woke crowd, and that doesn't mean he's woke, just weak (but the bottom line matters to the people with jobs there).
he obviously knows or thinks his fellow employees have, do and use all the things he doesn't want them to post, so what does that say?
he wants to avoid the woke crowd, and that doesn't mean he's woke, just weak (but the bottom line matters to the people with jobs there).
nein, der Germans have strong cheekbones unt jaws like a mule. only slack jawed untermensch need adjustable cheek pieces for their weak, flabby faces.
seriously though, the zeiss webpage does show a few tactical style bolt guns and adjustable cheek pieces.
the semi thing, and the lack of dead animals is very believable. they have a huge customer base of other industries beyond the shooting sports, and are likely bowing to pressure. Disappointing, but totally predictable for the new German mindset.
the semi thing, and the lack of dead animals is very believable. they have a huge customer base of other industries beyond the shooting sports, and are likely bowing to pressure. Disappointing, but totally predictable for the new German mindset.
Why? Zeiss sold Hensoldt like ten year ago.
Do they import the Americans into Austria to make the scopes?
Zeiss sold Hensoldt years ago.
Yeah if it's true lol, someone need to tell Zeiss headquarters they fucked up.
https://www.zeiss.com/consumer-products/int/precision-shooting.html
Here in Austria the hunting crowd (especially the older generations) does not want anything to do with us recreational shooters. Even when we they tried to tighten gun laws and we were collecting signatures, the hunters generally ignored the issue because they "do not need semi-autos to hunt" and "why do you need an assault rifle?"
So those guidelines would not surprise me at all if they want to cater to that market.
So those guidelines would not surprise me at all if they want to cater to that market.
That is not completly true though. Hunters are looking desperately for newcomers but the problem is the hunting license is quite a barrier to get over, so it scares many away. But once you have it you'll be welcomed with open arms.
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Haven’t reached out to verify this yet.
As even if true, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone from another division of Zeiss issued this, or was promoted/took over a new dept and issued this. Or it’s to stay within the German laws with a wink and a nudge.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see it recanted if it’s true.
You can walk into a Swaro crystal store and the employees will tell you that you’re nuts when you tell them the company they work for makes rifle optics. No doubt Zeiss likely has similar divisions.
As even if true, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone from another division of Zeiss issued this, or was promoted/took over a new dept and issued this. Or it’s to stay within the German laws with a wink and a nudge.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see it recanted if it’s true.
You can walk into a Swaro crystal store and the employees will tell you that you’re nuts when you tell them the company they work for makes rifle optics. No doubt Zeiss likely has similar divisions.
As you say it’s both and it differs between countries. But a majority of hunters are old and they don’t like “bad black rifles”. They like young hunters to join as long as they don’t have any “evil rifles”. PRS shooting tries to evolve but are often frowned on at ranges. The hunting associations are trying to self censor anything that’s not traditional bolt action rifles with wooden stocks. We are some that tries to get a more modern view on hunting and shooting but most of Europe are woke antigun liberals that like to be ruled by globalists.
Dude that is hilarious and likely as legit an answer as anything else.
No reason not to believe FieldEthos based on their history. That doesn't mean it isn't some weeny(schnitzel?) in corporate with pink hair and they/them pronouns that got asked to manage their social media marketing campaigns and doesn't represent the whole company. Even if it is, even if it gets walked back, on a scale of 1-10 I had about a 3 for interest in anything they have (their S5 with the ridiculous turrets). Now it's a -3 and they can go f' themselves. Buy a TT or ZCO.
Wasnt aware they sold Hensoldt. Seems aa bit dumb to sell off your best brand, but oh well.
...and stop being surprised by companies/people in a country with no fundamental right to bear arms playing politics for money.
That was my thought exactly, new head of marketing coming over from scientific or metallurgy divisions. Zero clue or fucks given about rifle optics, honestly Zeiss could drop this division just like Nikon did and never miss a beat.
Can we start of pool for which company we need to be outraged at next? Get me $10 on BCM, a five on Nightforce, and a 20 spot on AI.
I am amazed reading how many people were of the "dOnT bEliEve EvErYthIng yOu ReAd On The InTerNet!" tune... then you do a quick post history search and you see the links they post in the porta-jon thread. Everyone has their bias.
The lines would be too high.
It's an internal email. More likely true than not, IMO. This change to marketing doesn't mean much, but there may be a reason. It would not prevent me from buying just because they don't want to show that on their marketing.
Why doesn't NF use advertisements of military snipers standing over dead Haji? You don't think that that would sell some scopes to some people?
Just sayin'.
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Why doesn't NF use advertisements of military snipers standing over dead Haji? You don't think that that would sell some scopes to some people?
Just sayin'.
De gustibus non est disputandum
No "dispute" here.
Are they dumb enough to think ANYTHING will EVER be enough to appease the anti bill of rights commies and statists?
Most likely.
Shit, thing is so un-tactical I bet Beta O'whats his name would let you keep it (if he was currently running for Governor of Texas).
Belated thought.
Only the US has a 2nd Amendment. It is VERY unique. Other countries have no idea the struggle and culture we have to preserve the 2A. Just like we assume everyone understands that there is a 2A, they assume that everyone is subject to the whims of government when it comes to firearms. They are trapped by their bureaucrats who give them crazy regs and probably live in fear of the next crazy law that impacts their business. Or worse, have no idea what 2A Freedom means.
Why did people come to America? TO escape the BS they left behind (primarily in Europe). Europe today is better than Europe 300, 200, even 100 years ago (Yes 100 years ago MOST of Europe was still a Monarchy), but it is no means American. Meanwhile we've had 250 years of a republic--mostly isolated from the rest of the world and developed our own culture. Its important to remember why American Culture is unique.
Only the US has a 2nd Amendment. It is VERY unique. Other countries have no idea the struggle and culture we have to preserve the 2A. Just like we assume everyone understands that there is a 2A, they assume that everyone is subject to the whims of government when it comes to firearms. They are trapped by their bureaucrats who give them crazy regs and probably live in fear of the next crazy law that impacts their business. Or worse, have no idea what 2A Freedom means.
Why did people come to America? TO escape the BS they left behind (primarily in Europe). Europe today is better than Europe 300, 200, even 100 years ago (Yes 100 years ago MOST of Europe was still a Monarchy), but it is no means American. Meanwhile we've had 250 years of a republic--mostly isolated from the rest of the world and developed our own culture. Its important to remember why American Culture is unique.
Better yet, send them to me for proper disposal…. PM me where to send them
Small update. From Field Ethos IG story today. Yes another screen shot. Don’t like it go to their IG yourself and find it lol
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