Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

That's where I always end up too. "American Libertarianism" is where all the Founding Fathers would have landed too.

The problem with libertarianism is that it turns a blind eye to all sorts of tyranny under the idea of "they can live their way, I'll live mine". Meanwhile the marxists who come in don't operate under those sets of rules. They're playing a completely different game and liberalism/libertarianism can't fight against them.

Also the founding fathers built their set of rules for a white euro christian country with only landed men voting. We're waaaaaay beyond that now.
 
Sorry if posted already, this is on George Zinn, the guy who pretended to be the shooter. He admits he did his "act" to allow the shooter to get away. He was found to have CP on his phone, yet press are reporting he was a "Libertarian Conservative". He previously served a year for SLC Marathon bomb threat.


He's the local hippie douchebag who goes to every protest and always causes problems. He got in trouble for phoning in bomb threats during the boston marathon bombing and tried to insert himself into 9/11. And apparently he's a pedo and God knows what else. He's the sort of leftist lunatic who belongs in an asylum.
 
Sorry if posted already, this is on George Zinn, the guy who pretended to be the shooter. He admits he did his "act" to allow the shooter to get away. He was found to have CP on his phone, yet press are reporting he was a "Libertarian Conservative". He previously served a year for SLC Marathon bomb threat.

He's one of probably numerous people that ought to be charged with Conspiracy to Commit Murder, if that hasn't already happened.
 
Hopefully with access to his phone they can roll up a whole pedo ring.

Yup. Looks they got them off text threads on his phone

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He's the local hippie douchebag who goes to every protest and always causes problems. He got in trouble for phoning in bomb threats during the boston marathon bombing and tried to insert himself into 9/11. And apparently he's a pedo and God knows what else. He's the sort of leftist lunatic who belongs in an asylum.
The magnificent thing about this Shit disturber is when he did his little act and got arrested, the Police went through his Phone and discovered some very illegal porn on the phone.

He's likely to be prosecuted for that also and hopefully with both charges, will spend the rest of his life in Prison.

Dip shit didn't think this through. I will be optimistic that the state of Utah will give him the FAFO treatment.
 
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“ Cheap capped turret Vortex “ can easily handle the distance of the shot that killed Charlie. Had one and was able to shoot those distances no problem.
Obiviously, I never said it couldn't. I am just wanting to see how detailed we can get with identifying the specific gear. Did you honestly take from my post that I was implying a capped vortex couldn't make a 154* yard shot?
 
That's where I always end up too.

I more or less had you pegged there, as well as a few others, based on comments in general. I think the algorithm answers all go through does some kind of weighted averaging and there is some latitude on the answers to individual questions. Question by question there might be three or five we disagree on.

Interesting mental exercise, if you think back you should be able to recall a few places where we've knocked heads. Usually around religion and personal freedoms IIRC.

You'd never find me in church next to Charlie but I believe we are 100% on the same side where freedom and values are concerned. I haven't seen all his videos but I have seen him take down liberal, conservative, trans and "christian" all equally based on the same criteria of rights and freedom.
 
Still not a fighter jet pilot..............single engine prop rating not even multi engine. What next Harrison Ford is a pilot too.........
I said he didn’t fly a jet learn to read………..

“And Tom Cruise actually flew the F14 in Top Gun..............................”

“No, but…” I know it’s hard but even you can understand what “no” means. You’re terrible at this game.
 
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The problem with libertarianism is that it turns a blind eye to all sorts of tyranny under the idea of "they can live their way, I'll live mine". Meanwhile the marxists who come in don't operate under those sets of rules. They're playing a completely different game and liberalism/libertarianism can't fight against them.

Also the founding fathers built their set of rules for a white euro christian country with only landed men voting. We're waaaaaay beyond that now.
Ok. I'll play. So, what's the answer? Stick with our beliefs and understanding of limited, liberal government? Or what? Go full on Right Wing totalitarianism? Curtail rights and freedoms because some people abuse them?

I have an insight for you. "Diversity" is not a virtue. "Diversity" is merely a side effect of liberty, because across cultures and peoples there isn't anyone who wishes for a boot on their necks. Offer something intrinsic to the human condition that allows everyone to define and pursue their own definition of happiness, and everybody is going to want some. You don't have to sell it. The only people who want Marxism are people who've never lived under it. The strongest defenders of liberty and human rights are those who've suffered under Marxism in all it's forms.

Since WWII the Scandinavian countries have been held up as shining examples that socialism can and does work. about twenty or thirty years ago they took a right turn, and today they have largely abandoned socialism except for their well funded and sober public pension funds. Socialism works when everyone is the same in fact, when everyone defines happiness the same way, and when everyone wants the same things. When everyone shares the same language, religion, values, morals, and ethics offering everyone the same thing works. It just does, and the vast majority of people are happy. Introduce "diversity" and the whole thing falls apart, because they share none of that, and so they have.

To be a socialist or communist in America is to exist in a perpetual state of cognitive dissonance. You have to be for things that are diametrically opposed to each other, like the example of being for a side effect, and then for a system that collapses under that side effect. Like being "Pro Union", and then being for flooding the labor market with unskilled labor that can't even communicate.

We don't have to go authoritarian or totalitarian, because liberty works, and the alternative doesn't. That is my belief. The more they win the more they loose, because their ideology is a very faulty one.
 
He said he didn't have foreknowledge, so only being charged with obstruction of justice (which can be second degree felony) and CP.
Having thought about this a little, I lean in the direction that he did have advance knowledge of the murder. It is debatable, I understand and accept that. But what causes me to think he did have advance knowledge is that immediately after the shot was fired, he started yelling "I did it, I did it". IIRC, it happened so quickly that he was taken down by bystanders and the Police had not even gotten to him yet.

It seems like anyone that did not have advance knowledge would not have had enough time to process what had just happened, make the decision to "obstruct justice" and start yelling "I did it". He just doesn't strike me as being that smart or quick on his feet mentally.

Again, I could be wrong. I'm going off of my woman's intuition and a large dose of Occam's Razor. I do believe that if there is any validity to my theory, it will come out as this case and the prosecution of it progresses. In any event, it was a real shitbag thing for any human being to do and I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
 
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Having thought about this a little, I lean in the direction that he did have advance knowledge of the murder. It is debatable, I understand and accept that. But what causes me to think he did have advance knowledge is that immediately after the shot was fired, he started yelling "I did it, I did it". It seems like anyone in that position would not have had enough time to process what had just happened, make the decision to "obstruct justice" and start yelling "I did it".

Again, I could be wrong. I'm going off of my woman's intuition and a large dose of Occam's Razor. I do believe that if there is any validity to my theory, it will come out as this case and the prosecution of it progresses. In any event, it was a real shitbag thing for any human being to do and I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Charlie Kirk getting shot in front of everybody was pretty damn obvious what happened, everyone saw it, heard the shot. There were a few pieces of shit who started cheering like that guy waving his fist in the air, it's not a stretch that this guy yelled "I did it!" just because he's a POS who wants to be in the middle of everything.
 
Charlie Kirk getting shot in front of everybody was pretty damn obvious what happened, everyone saw it, heard the shot. There were a few pieces of shit who started cheering like that guy waving his fist in the air, it's not a stretch that this guy yelled "I did it!" just because he's a POS who wants to be in the middle of everything.
Yes, that is one aspect of it, agreed. I'm just not ready to accept that a shitbag like that wasn't connected to one or more groups in that area that may have had advance knowledge. You'll notice that I have said "it could be". I'm not saying it absolutely was. We shall see as the case progresses.

I think that everyone needs to keep in mind that we all receive our "information" from the media. In my mind, it is all highly suspect. I also think that what the media reports and what law enforcement has found (and will continue to find) are two different worlds.

We shall see.
 
What I see when Charlie Kirk raised his arms upward after being shot in the neck was a man who was instantly in the presence of his heavenly father. He was raising his arms and about to place his hands in the hands of the father and then his soul left his body.
This was Charlie's last thought as he passed into the presence of God.

I can see it no other way. The Bible teaches us that to be absent from the body is to be in the presence of God if we have accepted Christ as our savior. I believe it happened in an instant.
 
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What I see when Charlie Kirk raised his arms upward after being shot in the neck was a man who was instantly in the presence of his heavenly father. He was raising his arms and about to place his hands in the hands of the father and then his soul left his body.
This was Charlie's last thought as he passed into the presence of God.

I can see it no other way. The Bible teaches us that to be absent from the body is to be in the presence of God if we have accepted Christ as our savior. I believe it happened in an instant.
As a Christian, what?
 
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He's the local hippie douchebag who goes to every protest and always causes problems. He got in trouble for phoning in bomb threats during the boston marathon bombing and tried to insert himself into 9/11. And apparently he's a pedo and God knows what else. He's the sort of leftist lunatic who belongs in an asylum.
Or a wood chipper.
 
I guarantee there are a lot of democrat voters who don't give a fuck about charlie and plenty of middle of the road twats who will just vote however the TV tells them to but it'll be interesting when we get closer to voting time. They're bound to try and switch things up and act all christian or pro gun or whatever they think it takes to win because they're all lizard people anyways.
False Flags ? :unsure:

Bet on it. ;)
 
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Having thought about this a little, I lean in the direction that he did have advance knowledge of the murder. It is debatable, I understand and accept that. But what causes me to think he did have advance knowledge is that immediately after the shot was fired, he started yelling "I did it, I did it". IIRC, it happened so quickly that he was taken down by bystanders and the Police had not even gotten to him yet.

It seems like anyone that did not have advance knowledge would not have had enough time to process what had just happened, make the decision to "obstruct justice" and start yelling "I did it". He just doesn't strike me as being that smart or quick on his feet mentally.

Again, I could be wrong. I'm going off of my woman's intuition and a large dose of Occam's Razor. I do believe that if there is any validity to my theory, it will come out as this case and the prosecution of it progresses. In any event, it was a real shitbag thing for any human being to do and I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I agree. He responded to what happened throwing his hands up and claiming to be the shooter awfully quickly. Without delay almost. You don’t react that quickly to that kind of an event unless 1. You’ve trained ALOT or 2. you were expecting it. He processed what was going on pretty fast.

Maybe it wasn’t that quick but it sure seemed that way…
 
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