"Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

[Mr.Maim]

I was at the range yesterday to shoot my recently completed AR-10 pattern .308 rifle, and received comments from shooters on both sides of me about the sound concussion from my compensator. One was shooting a Garand and the other a Mosin, so not quiet rifle shooters, but both commented on the sound pressure I was pushing.

I'm running a Primary Weapons Systems (PWS) FSC30
http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=37&idcategory=6

I also have a new PWS PRC5824 that I have not tried yet:
http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=127&idcategory=6

I try, for the most part to be respectful of others around me and don't want to be the dick at the range who runins it for other shooters near him... especially considering the fact that I am a member for several years and shoot frequently.


Because I know someone is going to say "get a suppressor": I have a suppressor purchased, and am currently <span style="text-decoration: underline">three months </span>into the Form-3 transfer wait, not to mention the Form-4 transfer wait after that, so I'm looking at another... who knows... 6-8 months until I'll be shooting suppressed.


-Is there such a thing as a "range friendly" compensator?
-What are you guys running on your AR-10 pattern rifles?
-Suggestions?

 

[sandwarrior]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

The "fish gill" (slotted cuts along the sides) style breaks are pretty effective, but they do concentrate blast to the left and right.

A "pepperpot" (multiple smaller holes) style brake isn't as offensive. But, I've still had people complain about them. If they have an issue when they get there after you do, I'd have to kind of say too bad. On the other hand, I've waited until there was a spot open at the end or at least a position between me and my left/right.

 

[Rprecision]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

The more effective a brake is the louder it is, this is physics

The linear models, no holes on the sides, do help with muzzle climb but not as effective.

See link below for your solution

http://www.thunderbeastarms.com/

Otherwise, tell them to quit being f’ing sallies. You don’t go to the range for a relaxing afternoon and a latte.

 

[rpk762]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

I would like to say one will fit the bill but all of them push it to the side to stop recoil.

I guess on the bright side when you are finally shooting suppressed you can tell the guys near you to quite it down.

 

[hamstur]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rprecision</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Otherwise, tell them to quit being f’ing sallies. You don’t go to the range for a relaxing afternoon and a latte.
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I agree. Maybe they should give up firearms & take up yoga.

Also seems like a PPE training issue. Am I the only one who observes folk who complain tend to be the ones who use the cheapest earmuffs, or their foam plugs are clearly not even in their ear canal. I suppose military flightline work taught me better...

 

[R.O.U.S.]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

I purchased a Battle Comp BABC for my LMT MWS. Reviews I read said that it was "slightly" louder than an A2 compensator, but I've had a few people complain to me that it was loud.

I'm not sure if a range friendly muzzle device exists.

 

[5RWill]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

Any brake that directs muzzle blast forward battlecomp, kac triple tap. Maybe not forward but not directly to the side like my PWS SM556 lol

 

[jevoe]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

Their problem, get better ear protection. The only thing that's ever been said about my compensator at the range is 'Wow, that thing must really eliminate recoil' and it does. If someone had the nerve to complain about the sound I'd simply ask them to go complain to the RM.

 

[KillShot]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

The terms "range friendly" and "compensator" don't belong in the same sentence because as others have said, the more effective the compensator is...the louder it will be.

I have the PWS FSC30 mounted on my P308 and it works great but it's loud as hell and when shooting prone, it throws shit all over the guys next to me. As someone mentioned in another topic, you certainly won't make any friends by using a compensator on the firing line. LoL!

 

[spr1]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

Even "naked" short barrels, 16 to 18, are very loud.

 

[GlockandRoll]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

I've found that the YHM QD supressor mount for my .30 cal reduces reciol a decent bit and is no louder than a plain crowned muzzel. Any of the more effective "brakes" are going to be unpleasent for shooters beside you.

If you are concerned about noise, get a supressor. :_)

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

Savage makes an 'adjustable' muzzle brake, which means it can be turned on and off. If you can handle the unbraked recoil, this can be a solution for congested shooting spaces. It can be one thing to be in the right, and quite another to maintain good relations with your fellow shooters.

I agree, if someone can't stand the noise, why are they at a rifle range?

But also, since you're both already at the range, telling them it's their problem that your rifle is louder is not guaranteed to fly well, either.

My guess is that the Savage brake works by rotating a slotted sleeve to cover the brake vents.

I'm guessing further that a snug fitting solid sleeve to cover the outside of the brake might work similarly. Just be sure it's sturdy enough to stand up to the blast without disintegrating into shrapnel.

Also bear in mind that messing around with mass at the muzzle end of the barrel is very likely to affect barrel harmonics.

Loudness is a factor of muzzle pressure. Some chamberings are just plain loud even without the brake. My .280 Rem is rather loud, even with a 24" barrel.

Greg

 

[Mr.Maim]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

Alright gentlemen, thanks for your comments. I'm going to try the other PWS comp that I already have. If that doesn't quiet it down a little better... well, as many have suggested: I AM at a shooting range!

Thanks all!

 

[VonReich]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

My compensator i use on my M4 is very loud, but worth it for fast follow-up shots at close distances. I prefer these...

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=5573/Product/AR-15-MICULEK-COMP

very effective, but nominal increase in report

 

[Muttt]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

It's a gun. If the other shooters don't like the "loud boom" that comes outta your's ...... tell em to go home.

 

[Elnino31]

Re: "Range Friendly" compensator: Does one exist?

Compensators on sbr's can be perceived as disrespectful on the range, but I wouldn't worry about anything 16" and longer. I usually double up my ear pro anyway.