Rifle Scopes QD or Fixed ? Steel or Alum.?

[03psd]

I checked the FAQs and didnt see this covered although I bet it has been many times. Sorry.

Just received my SN3 for my LMT NWS. Now its time to get her mounted. I am on the fence about a QD style mount that seems all the rage these days on any flat top AR style rifle. I can see the benefits in it but honestly how often does a scope fail where you are likely to need to quickly pull it off and transition to irons. Heck most dont even have a BUIS on them. That being said because of the height needed to clear a 58mm objective on a monolithic upper there arent too many traditional ring options for 35mm tubes. The QD mounts provide the height needed but do put the rings closer than I would prefer to the EREK knob on my USO. Traditional rings can obviously be spaced out as far as necessary. I will get it mocked up tomorrow but I figure I need roughly 1.5" from the top of the rail to the midpoint on the rings. Thems are some tall rings!. My second question is that with traditional rings, what are the trade offs between aluminum and steel besides a few ounces? I am always scared to death to strip aluminum even with a torque wrench.

I have good money in this rifle and scope, I will not go cheap on the mounts. I welcome your input on style, material and vendor.

 

[George63]

Re: QD or Fixed ? Steel or Alum.?

QD is much more of a fad than needed, talls should be high enough, I like 2 sets of warne rings (4 total) for 35 a set so 70 total, no single set of 100$ + rings will hold a scope more securely

 

[Rob01]

Re: QD or Fixed ? Steel or Alum.?

Use a 20 MOA riser and a set of Seekins rings. I believe Seekins is making a riser now as well. This set up works great with my 56mm objective S&B on a monolithic rail.

Don't worry about stripping them out. Use the proper torque and you will be fine. Quality steel or aluminum will work fine. Quality is the key word.

 

[03psd]

Re: QD or Fixed ? Steel or Alum.?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Use a 20 MOA riser and a set of Seekins rings. I believe Seekins is making a riser now as well. This set up works great with my 56mm objective S&B on a monolithic rail.

Don't worry about stripping them out. Use the proper torque and you will be fine. Quality steel or aluminum will work fine. Quality is the key word. </div></div>

I think this may be the way to go. I already have a set of Badger low rings that wont work unless I add the riser. Seekins sight mentions a riser but no pics or description. Larue makes a QD riser and Badger makes a 22 MOA riser as well. Any chance Glen will chime in with details on his riser. I have a killer set of his rings on my LTR holding my ST10 safe and sound!

 

[bohem]

Re: QD or Fixed ? Steel or Alum.?

American Rifle Co. Unimounts have 0/20/30 or special request 40MOA of elevation built into them, and they're made for 1, 30, 34, 35mm tubes.

I have a 30mm with 40 MOA and I wouldn't trade it for anything.

 

[Glen Seekins]

Re: QD or Fixed ? Steel or Alum.?

Our risers are a new product for us so we haven't got them done just yet. They are close. Just trying to get to them on the schedule of stuff to build

 

[03psd]

Re: QD or Fixed ? Steel or Alum.?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">American Rifle Co. Unimounts have 0/20/30 or special request 40MOA of elevation built into them, and they're made for 1, 30, 34, 35mm tubes.

I have a 30mm with 40 MOA and I wouldn't trade it for anything.

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It looks like the most they have between the rings is 2.8" which I think crowds the EREK knob. I wish all manufacturers of this type mount would make one with USO scopes in mind and allow at least 3.5" clearance between the rings.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: QD or Fixed ? Steel or Alum.?

I don't see the need for a QD unless you like re-zeroing, your in a combat situation, or you do some sort of competition where you may need to switch to irons. I guess if you owned multiple rifles and wanted to swap a scope between them, but in that case it only takes a few more seconds to unscrew the mount and at least you don't have to worry about accidentally flipping the QD.

 

[SICARIO]

Re: QD or Fixed ? Steel or Alum.?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 03psd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">American Rifle Co. Unimounts have 0/20/30 or special request 40MOA of elevation built into them, and they're made for 1, 30, 34, 35mm tubes.

I have a 30mm with 40 MOA and I wouldn't trade it for anything.

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It looks like the most they have between the rings is 2.8" which I think crowds the EREK knob. I wish all manufacturers of this type mount would make one with USO scopes in mind and allow at least 3.5" clearance between the rings. </div></div>

The Larue LT112 are made with the USO scopes in mind.

 

[littlecalm]

Re: QD or Fixed ? Steel or Alum.?

Couple of reasons for QDs: you don't have room in your safe to keep the glass on. As noted above, you don't want to spend thousands on glass for each rifle you own. That being said, I have both QDs and non QDs and it's not really a big deal to take on and off non QDs. I also think that non QDs can be tightened down better. I always worry about my QDs coming loose, though I have never had a problem to date. I use the Burris PEPR QD on my AR.

 

[BCP]

Re: QD or Fixed ? Steel or Alum.?

I bet IOR 35MM QD rings in the high version would fit also I think Warne has some 35mm QD ones not sure on height though. I shoot with irons a lot so detachable mounts are nice.