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Semi Auto Range Etiquette on shared steel targets?

512BPG

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We have a 1000 yard range close by that has larue resetting targets at 250, 500, 750, 1000. The other day I was getting dope on my dpms lr308 after having the barrel cut 6inches and brake installed. To the point... there was only myself and 1 other shooter on the 250+ range at the time and while he was reloading a mag on his bolt action, I did "a run" and knocked down every target at 250, quickly adjusted MOA and knocked down every target at 500. Later during a cease fire he mentioned that a chief didnt want his guys having semi auto sniper rifles because he didnt want them blasting every target at the range and pissing people off.

was i in the wrong? on shared steel, at what point should you sit on a target for a while before moving to a different range? part of what i love about the semi auto platform is the quick engagement of multiple targets/follow up shots. Coyote/hog practice!

It was gusting pretty bad so I wasn't reaching to 750 very often and this gun just doesnt miss at 500 and less. Sitting on one target seems... I dunno.

thoughts?
 
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I believe I would have told him that I am glad I dont have a Chief. I dont see anything wrong with it. Like you said he was reloading and its not like he had to walk out and set the targets back up and it is a shared range. Some people are just arrogant. Dust it off.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 512BPG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We have a 1000 yard range close by that has larue resetting targets at 250, 500, 750, 1000. The other day I was getting dope on my dpms lr308 after having the barrel cut 6inches and brake installed. To the point... there was only myself and 1 other shooter on the 250+ range at the time and while he was reloading a mag on his bolt action, I did "a run" and knocked down every target at 250, quickly adjusted MOA and knocked down every target at 500. Later during a cease fire he mentioned that a chief didnt want his guys having semi auto sniper rifles because he didnt want them blasting every target at the range and pissing people off.

was i in the wrong? on shared steel, at what point should you sit on a target for a while before moving to a different range? part of what i love about the semi auto platform is the quick engagement of multiple targets/follow up shots. Coyote/hog practice!

It was gusting pretty bad so I wasn't reaching to 750 very often and this gun just doesnt miss at 500 and less. Sitting on one target seems... I dunno.

thoughts?</div></div>

Tell him to stop crying and start shooting. He was reloading, not shooting.

Had he been shooting and you knocked down all the targets, he would have grounds on which to gripe but that isn't the case.

Did he expect you to shoot your targets and sit and wait until he finished fingering and fondling his magazine and rifle? Sounds like you could've been sitting there waiting all day for Gomer Pyle to get his shit together.

<span style="font-style: italic">What a fuckin' whiner....</span>
 
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I don't think you did anything wrong, he was reloading. Its not like he was shooting and you got to the target he was aiming at. Some people at the range like to act like they own the place. Stuff like that Happens to me all the time, mostly on the weekends. So I try to avoid going on the weekends to my range. I had one guy tell me I was being to loud using an ar15, I told him its a gun range not everyone uses a .22 like you. What an idiot.
 
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the comment came after i did that so im sure it was a nice way of saying i shouldnt (i guess?). very possible he is on this board as he seemed to be a relatively experienced long range shooter.

is there a time that its not ok to take out multiple hogs...err i mean steel targets like that? if there are say 5 people on the range?

im not going out there wanting to "blast up" the place, but like i said, if im only shooting at 250 and 500, i want to spend my time shooting and not sitting...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 512BPG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the comment came after i did that so im sure it was a nice way of saying i shouldnt (i guess?). very possible he is on this board as he seemed to be a relatively experienced long range shooter.

is there a time that its not ok to take out multiple hogs...err i mean steel targets like that? if there are say 5 people on the range?

im not going out there wanting to "blast up" the place, but like i said, if im only shooting at 250 and 500, i want to spend my time shooting and not sitting... </div></div>

You have nothing to apologize or feel sorry for. As it has already been said, he was sitting...he wasn't shooting...the range is fair game.

Yes, had there been 5 other shooters then it would've been pretty messed up for you to knock down all their targets, albeit somewhat funny. LoL

As it stands, however, he was taking his time doing whatever it was he was doing and you shouldn't be expected to sit and wait for him to decide when it's time for him to stop sitting on his thumb and start shooting. After all, it is a <span style="font-style: italic">shooting range</span>.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AWZ1287</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think you did anything wrong, he was reloading. Its not like he was shooting and you got to the target he was aiming at. Some people at the range like to act like they own the place. Stuff like that Happens to me all the time, mostly on the weekends. So I try to avoid going on the weekends to my range. I had one guy tell me I was being to loud using an ar15, I told him its a gun range not everyone uses a .22 like you. What an idiot.</div></div>

^^ This
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AWZ1287</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had one guy tell me I was being to loud using an ar15, I told him its a gun range not everyone uses a .22 like you. What an idiot. </div></div>

yea ive got a brake on the .308 now so im not real quiet... but i can spot my hits and misses even when zoomed to 20x!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 512BPG</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AWZ1287</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had one guy tell me I was being to loud using an ar15, I told him its a gun range not everyone uses a .22 like you. What an idiot. </div></div>

yea ive got a brake on the .308 now so im not real quiet... but i can spot my hits and misses even when zoomed to 20x! </div></div>

Yeah I'm stuck in Nj so I'm only allowed to have a brake to keep the rifle legal. So it is louder but the range was empty so he wasn't right next to me. I think the guy was just mad Bc he wasn't even hitting the target at like 25 feet with a 10/22, and his girl was getting perfect groups.
 
Re: Semi Auto Range Etiquette on shared steel targets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 512BPG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We have a 1000 yard range close by that has larue resetting targets at 250, 500, 750, 1000. The other day I was getting dope on my dpms lr308 after having the barrel cut 6inches and brake installed. To the point... there was only myself and 1 other shooter on the 250+ range at the time and while he was reloading a mag on his bolt action, I did "a run" and knocked down every target at 250, quickly adjusted MOA and knocked down every target at 500. Later during a cease fire he mentioned that a chief didnt want his guys having semi auto sniper rifles because he didnt want them blasting every target at the range and pissing people off.

was i in the wrong? on shared steel, at what point should you sit on a target for a while before moving to a different range? part of what i love about the semi auto platform is the quick engagement of multiple targets/follow up shots. Coyote/hog practice!

It was gusting pretty bad so I wasn't reaching to 750 very often and this gun just doesnt miss at 500 and less. Sitting on one target seems... I dunno.

thoughts? </div></div>

Dunno if he was making a comment about your shooting or not, but it doesn't matter. There's no reason for you not to shoot the targets like that. I do the same thing out there, but with a bolt action.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vinson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Dunno if he was making a comment about your shooting or not, but it doesn't matter. There's no reason for you not to shoot the targets like that. I do the same thing out there, but with a bolt action.
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thanks for the reply. While I respect this hell outta longer range shooting, I am trying to be as quick yet accurate at 500 and in as possible and "sitting" on one target at the range just isnt good use of my time when I do shoot there rather than on our property.

just making sure im not "that guy"
 
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did this happen to be out at Best of The West on Sunday? it was dang windy that day. (no, it wasn't me w/ the boltie either, i was using an AR).
Anyway, when i first went out there I seemed to have the same question but from the other viewpoint. But after multiple visits it seems that behavior is common place; the communal sharing of the poppers from various positions. I wouldn't worry about it. There, it seems, the lane positions have much less meaning when you aren't shooting at paper.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: y5e06</div><div class="ubbcode-body">did this happen to be out at Best of The West on Sunday? it was dang windy that day. (no, it wasn't me w/ the boltie either, i was using an AR).
Anyway, when i first went out there I seemed to have the same question but from the other viewpoint. But after multiple visits it seems that behavior is common place; the communal sharing of the poppers from various positions. I wouldn't worry about it. There, it seems, the lane positions have much less meaning when you aren't shooting at paper. </div></div>

it was on wednesday last week. was pretty dead but the wind wasnt! just picked my lr308 from the smith and was restablishing zero and seeing what if anything had changed dope wise. ive been asked "what target are you shooting at" before too and wondered if it was inappropriate to say "all the ones that are up!" ha.

only been there once when it wasnt gusting significantly.
 
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They they are resetting targets who cares. Knock them down they come back up. Sounds good to me. My range you knock them down you have to go out and put them back up. My GF did that on the rams no one was happy but me. She did like you did cleared all the rams. The guys practicing were not happy.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rpk762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They they are resetting targets who cares. Knock them down they come back up. Sounds good to me. My range you knock them down you have to go out and put them back up. My GF did that on the rams no one was happy but me. She did like you did cleared all the rams. The guys practicing were not happy. </div></div>

thats pretty funny...

and youre right... they reset quickly too.
 
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Sounds like the dude got his feelings hurt plain and simple, you out shot him and he didnt like that. When I go to the range I am there to shoot not take up space (if the range was full). Sounds like a "Yes" guy to me.
 
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I think you were fine if you shot the target or targets on your lane, If you crossed over and shot in someone elses lane, you were wrong IMO. I see everyone disagrees with me, but I still think shooting someone elses target rude.
 
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I can understand the issue if you have 5 shooters on the line all shooting at one time, or even 2 shooting at one time. If you are taking turns, there's no reason for anyone to get all butthurt about it. If people do, it's likely because they have some aversion or prejudice against semi-autos. Or they are annoyed that you are shooting "their" targets.
Shrug it off and drive on.
 
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it has been my experience that if you have to ask an online forum whether or not you were being an asshole...chances are, you were being an asshole
 
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Sounds like just as he was focusing in on a target you go an knock it down. He chooses another target and you knock it down again before he can engage. This can be somewhat frustrating I suppose.

You can propose this:

"Hey - I'm planning on quickly engaging these targets, how about you take the even ranges and I'll take the odd ranges? We can switch every 15 minutes?