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Target was 750-760 through a bunch of Brush and Limbs
Target was 750-760 through a bunch of Brush and Limbs
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Re: GAP-10 6mm Firepower!
What was the volley at the end there? Mover?
He said "Hit" after shooting 20 rounds.
Wondering what the stage was...
What was the volley at the end there? Mover?
He said "Hit" after shooting 20 rounds.
Wondering what the stage was...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Onemoretime</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What was the volley at the end there? Mover?
He said "Hit" after shooting 20 rounds.
Wondering what the stage was... </div></div>
That's what I was wondering too. I'm no superstar, but a static target (unless it's very small) isn't too hard.
I'm sure there is more to it though, otherwise he wouldn't have posted it. Lol
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Onemoretime</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What was the volley at the end there? Mover?
He said "Hit" after shooting 20 rounds.
Wondering what the stage was... </div></div>
That's what I was wondering too. I'm no superstar, but a static target (unless it's very small) isn't too hard.
I'm sure there is more to it though, otherwise he wouldn't have posted it. Lol
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Yeah, unless those "brush and limbs" he mentioned were seriously thick.
Like to know details as to why it took 20 rounds to "hit" at 750 and sometimes rapid fire 3 round bursts.
Yeah, unless those "brush and limbs" he mentioned were seriously thick.
Like to know details as to why it took 20 rounds to "hit" at 750 and sometimes rapid fire 3 round bursts.
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The name of the stage was "Thread the Needle" the target was mostly obscured by limbs and brush. Most people did not hit the target at all.
The name of the stage was "Thread the Needle" the target was mostly obscured by limbs and brush. Most people did not hit the target at all.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The name of the stage was "Thread the Needle" the target was mostly obscured by limbs and brush. Most people did not hit the target at all. </div></div>
So it's more about seeing the target, not engaging it?
Wonder what size the target was. I would understand a volley fire hoping one round hits it since I can't see it?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The name of the stage was "Thread the Needle" the target was mostly obscured by limbs and brush. Most people did not hit the target at all. </div></div>
So it's more about seeing the target, not engaging it?
Wonder what size the target was. I would understand a volley fire hoping one round hits it since I can't see it?
Re: GAP-10 6mm Firepower!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The name of the stage was "Thread the Needle" the target was mostly obscured by limbs and brush. Most people did not hit the target at all. </div></div>
So it's more about seeing the target, not engaging it?
Wonder what size the target was. I would understand a volley fire hoping one round hits it since I can't see it? </div></div>
Or to blast out brush and cut down tree limbs...
Let's see the bolt guys do that.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The name of the stage was "Thread the Needle" the target was mostly obscured by limbs and brush. Most people did not hit the target at all. </div></div>
So it's more about seeing the target, not engaging it?
Wonder what size the target was. I would understand a volley fire hoping one round hits it since I can't see it? </div></div>
Or to blast out brush and cut down tree limbs...
Let's see the bolt guys do that.
Re: GAP-10 6mm Firepower!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The name of the stage was "Thread the Needle" the target was mostly obscured by limbs and brush. Most people did not hit the target at all. </div></div>
So it's more about seeing the target, not engaging it?
Wonder what size the target was. I would understand a volley fire hoping one round hits it since I can't see it? </div></div>
Exactly, 5 competitors hit it I believe out of 46. It was more about battleing the brush and limbs and spotting the impacts in a 10-15 MPH wind as well. Target was a Skull and crosbones Target not sure of the size but it was far from large.
If anything 308's had it easier as there path took the rounds above most of the brush
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The name of the stage was "Thread the Needle" the target was mostly obscured by limbs and brush. Most people did not hit the target at all. </div></div>
So it's more about seeing the target, not engaging it?
Wonder what size the target was. I would understand a volley fire hoping one round hits it since I can't see it? </div></div>
Exactly, 5 competitors hit it I believe out of 46. It was more about battleing the brush and limbs and spotting the impacts in a 10-15 MPH wind as well. Target was a Skull and crosbones Target not sure of the size but it was far from large.
If anything 308's had it easier as there path took the rounds above most of the brush
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If I remember correctly, the target was 8"x11". It wasnt an easy target to hit. I put a few rounds all around it and was suprised that I didnt hit it before time ran out.
Bill
If I remember correctly, the target was 8"x11". It wasnt an easy target to hit. I put a few rounds all around it and was suprised that I didnt hit it before time ran out.
Bill
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Good shooting! That thing is sweet. Anyone notice the flinch during 3 rd bursts?
Good shooting! That thing is sweet. Anyone notice the flinch during 3 rd bursts?
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I love that cartoon Gnat logo
I love that cartoon Gnat logo
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Skull and Crossbones? Was it one of my targets?
Skull and Crossbones? Was it one of my targets?
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That makes sense, I know I had the range right. My rf binos said 758. Had the gun dialed correct, still couldn't see any splash around the target. Later I talked to a RO and he said he was seeing limb impacts and some bullets were deflecting straight down.
That makes sense, I know I had the range right. My rf binos said 758. Had the gun dialed correct, still couldn't see any splash around the target. Later I talked to a RO and he said he was seeing limb impacts and some bullets were deflecting straight down.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OBXLongRange</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Anyone notice the flinch during 3 rd bursts?</div></div>
Don't think it hurt him too bad as he came in second in the match
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OBXLongRange</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Anyone notice the flinch during 3 rd bursts?</div></div>
Don't think it hurt him too bad as he came in second in the match
Re: GAP-10 6mm Firepower!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OBXLongRange</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Anyone notice the flinch during 3 rd bursts?</div></div>
Don't think it hurt him too bad as he came in second in the match </div></div>
That dude aint no slouch! Def not his first rodeo
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OBXLongRange</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Anyone notice the flinch during 3 rd bursts?</div></div>
Don't think it hurt him too bad as he came in second in the match
That dude aint no slouch! Def not his first rodeo
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Jeff is one of the best shooters around and that was a solid shooting solution for the problem. Right tool for the job for sure. The trigger looks like a super dynamic three gun.
Jeff is one of the best shooters around and that was a solid shooting solution for the problem. Right tool for the job for sure. The trigger looks like a super dynamic three gun.
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Yeah but come on Jeff, Green sneakers and Shorts? Aren't you supposed to rock some sort of mil camo and combat boots at these things? You lost all style points.
Yeah but come on Jeff, Green sneakers and Shorts? Aren't you supposed to rock some sort of mil camo and combat boots at these things? You lost all style points.
Re: GAP-10 6mm Firepower!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A10XRIFLE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The name of the stage was "Thread the Needle" the target was mostly obscured by limbs and brush. Most people did not hit the target at all. </div></div>
So it's more about seeing the target, not engaging it?
Wonder what size the target was. I would understand a volley fire hoping one round hits it since I can't see it? </div></div>
Exactly, 5 competitors hit it I believe out of 46. It was more about battleing the brush and limbs and spotting the impacts in a 10-15 MPH wind as well. Target was a Skull and crosbones Target not sure of the size but it was far from large.
If anything 308's had it easier as there path took the rounds above most of the brush </div></div>
Love the vid, George.
IMO, this was probably the toughest target to hit of the whole match, due to the limbs and such. I was one of the shooters to hit it. The spotter/RO said I hit/ busted a limb or 2 before I "cleared" the path to actually hit it. 7mm08 with 162s...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A10XRIFLE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The name of the stage was "Thread the Needle" the target was mostly obscured by limbs and brush. Most people did not hit the target at all. </div></div>
So it's more about seeing the target, not engaging it?
Wonder what size the target was. I would understand a volley fire hoping one round hits it since I can't see it? </div></div>
Exactly, 5 competitors hit it I believe out of 46. It was more about battleing the brush and limbs and spotting the impacts in a 10-15 MPH wind as well. Target was a Skull and crosbones Target not sure of the size but it was far from large.
If anything 308's had it easier as there path took the rounds above most of the brush </div></div>
Love the vid, George.
IMO, this was probably the toughest target to hit of the whole match, due to the limbs and such. I was one of the shooters to hit it. The spotter/RO said I hit/ busted a limb or 2 before I "cleared" the path to actually hit it. 7mm08 with 162s...
Re: GAP-10 6mm Firepower!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A10XRIFLE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
http://techtoyal.smugmug.com/Other/The-M...mp;lb=1&s=A
Target was 750-760 through a bunch of Brush and Limbs
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That was awesome.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A10XRIFLE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
http://techtoyal.smugmug.com/Other/The-M...mp;lb=1&s=A
Target was 750-760 through a bunch of Brush and Limbs
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That was awesome.
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Jeff's a bad ass
Jeff's a bad ass
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: procovert45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OBXLongRange</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Anyone notice the flinch during 3 rd bursts?</div></div>
Don't think it hurt him too bad as he came in second in the match </div></div>
That dude aint no slouch! Def not his first rodeo </div></div>
I think I know why he closed his eyes, he was praying for the 6mm to have more tree cutting ability.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: procovert45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OBXLongRange</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Anyone notice the flinch during 3 rd bursts?</div></div>
Don't think it hurt him too bad as he came in second in the match
That dude aint no slouch! Def not his first rodeo </div></div>
I think I know why he closed his eyes, he was praying for the 6mm to have more tree cutting ability.
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Looks like his "tree cutting ability" got him 2nd!
Good Shooting. Don't act like your the only person who doesn't flinch while firing a rifle OBX.....
Looks like his "tree cutting ability" got him 2nd!
Good Shooting. Don't act like your the only person who doesn't flinch while firing a rifle OBX.....
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Badley's a bad mofo!
Badley's a bad mofo!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks like his "tree cutting ability" got him 2nd!
Good Shooting. Don't act like your the only person who doesn't flinch while firing a rifle OBX.....
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I didn't mean to come off like that, my bad. The tree cutting power thing was a joke but got lost in translation to the keyboard.
I'll go back under my rock now.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks like his "tree cutting ability" got him 2nd!
Good Shooting. Don't act like your the only person who doesn't flinch while firing a rifle OBX.....
</div></div>
I didn't mean to come off like that, my bad. The tree cutting power thing was a joke but got lost in translation to the keyboard.
I'll go back under my rock now.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DJ480</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who makes that handguard? </div></div>
Believe that is a GAP proprietary design and you have to buy one of their ARs to get one.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DJ480</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who makes that handguard? </div></div>
Believe that is a GAP proprietary design and you have to buy one of their ARs to get one.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JamesBailey</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DJ480</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who makes that handguard? </div></div>
Believe that is a GAP proprietary design and you have to buy one of their ARs to get one.
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well boo there goes that idea for a build lol
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JamesBailey</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DJ480</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who makes that handguard? </div></div>
Believe that is a GAP proprietary design and you have to buy one of their ARs to get one.
</div></div>
well boo there goes that idea for a build lol
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What exactly was the 6mm cartridge he was shooting?
What exactly was the 6mm cartridge he was shooting?
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6mm Creedmoor
6mm Creedmoor
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seconds on the trigger, does anyone know for sure what it was?
seconds on the trigger, does anyone know for sure what it was?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DJ480</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JamesBailey</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DJ480</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who makes that handguard? </div></div>
Believe that is a GAP proprietary design and you have to buy one of their ARs to get one.
</div></div>
well boo there goes that idea for a build lol</div></div>
That is the hunting/sniper handguard designed by POF. Hogan also uses the same design.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DJ480</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JamesBailey</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DJ480</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who makes that handguard? </div></div>
Believe that is a GAP proprietary design and you have to buy one of their ARs to get one.
</div></div>
well boo there goes that idea for a build lol</div></div>
That is the hunting/sniper handguard designed by POF. Hogan also uses the same design.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That is the hunting/sniper handguard designed by POF. Hogan also uses the same design. </div></div>
I'm fairly certain from an earlier post George made though that the rifle length is made only for GAP.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That is the hunting/sniper handguard designed by POF. Hogan also uses the same design. </div></div>
I'm fairly certain from an earlier post George made though that the rifle length is made only for GAP.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That is the hunting/sniper handguard designed by POF. Hogan also uses the same design. </div></div>
I'm fairly certain from an earlier post George made though that the rifle length is made only for GAP. </div></div>
I think your right. I thought they were referring to the design when asking who makes the handguard.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That is the hunting/sniper handguard designed by POF. Hogan also uses the same design. </div></div>
I'm fairly certain from an earlier post George made though that the rifle length is made only for GAP. </div></div>
I think your right. I thought they were referring to the design when asking who makes the handguard.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">George shot a 6mm Creedmoor and Jeff was shooting a .243. </div></div>
I'd be curious to know if Jeff's .243 was loaded with the 105BTHPs and what, if any, speed difference his load had over George's 6CM.
My interest is piqued in a GAP-10, and I sure like the idea of having a gasser to run/ load for along with my GAP .243.
Thanks for any help!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">George shot a 6mm Creedmoor and Jeff was shooting a .243. </div></div>
I'd be curious to know if Jeff's .243 was loaded with the 105BTHPs and what, if any, speed difference his load had over George's 6CM.
My interest is piqued in a GAP-10, and I sure like the idea of having a gasser to run/ load for along with my GAP .243.
Thanks for any help!!!
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Glad to see the 6mm Creedmoor is working out. Seems like a great round for a gas gun
Glad to see the 6mm Creedmoor is working out. Seems like a great round for a gas gun
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That look's like it was fun! Any body know what length barrel he was using?
That look's like it was fun! Any body know what length barrel he was using?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That is the hunting/sniper handguard designed by POF. Hogan also uses the same design. </div></div>
I'm fairly certain from an earlier post George made though that the rifle length is made only for GAP.</div></div>
That length is made for us, but you can get a POF or a HOGAN with a similar handguard
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That is the hunting/sniper handguard designed by POF. Hogan also uses the same design. </div></div>
I'm fairly certain from an earlier post George made though that the rifle length is made only for GAP.</div></div>
That length is made for us, but you can get a POF or a HOGAN with a similar handguard
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: knockemdown</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">George shot a 6mm Creedmoor and Jeff was shooting a .243. </div></div>
I'd be curious to know if Jeff's .243 was loaded with the 105BTHPs and what, if any, speed difference his load had over George's 6CM.
My interest is piqued in a GAP-10, and I sure like the idea of having a gasser to run/ load for along with my GAP .243.
Thanks for any help!!!</div></div>
We were both running 105's at about 3040 FPS. Jeff is switching to the 6mm Creedmoor on the next barrel. the 6 Creedmoor puts the bullet out of the neck shoulder junction and has alot less pressure problems.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: knockemdown</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">George shot a 6mm Creedmoor and Jeff was shooting a .243. </div></div>
I'd be curious to know if Jeff's .243 was loaded with the 105BTHPs and what, if any, speed difference his load had over George's 6CM.
My interest is piqued in a GAP-10, and I sure like the idea of having a gasser to run/ load for along with my GAP .243.
Thanks for any help!!!</div></div>
We were both running 105's at about 3040 FPS. Jeff is switching to the 6mm Creedmoor on the next barrel. the 6 Creedmoor puts the bullet out of the neck shoulder junction and has alot less pressure problems.
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George how does the 6 creedmoor stack up against the 6XC? Seems like they would be pretty similar performance wise
George how does the 6 creedmoor stack up against the 6XC? Seems like they would be pretty similar performance wise
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AMMOWASTER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">George how does the 6 creedmoor stack up against the 6XC? Seems like they would be pretty similar performance wise</div></div>
Very Similar, the 6xc is a tad shorter about .032" I believe
The big differenc is the cost of the brass as the 6mm Creedmore will be about 60c a piece
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AMMOWASTER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">George how does the 6 creedmoor stack up against the 6XC? Seems like they would be pretty similar performance wise</div></div>
Very Similar, the 6xc is a tad shorter about .032" I believe
The big differenc is the cost of the brass as the 6mm Creedmore will be about 60c a piece
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Cool deal. I was just wondering about the performance. Might just have to end up with a AR10 upper in 6 creedmoor.
Cool deal. I was just wondering about the performance. Might just have to end up with a AR10 upper in 6 creedmoor.
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What's the barrel length on his .243?
What's the barrel length on his .243?
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