I am having a problem with my LWRC REPR gas regulator sticking. Does anyone have a solution and/or recommendations for eliminating this issue?
Thanks for your help!
Thanks for your help!
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Re: REPR Gas Regulator Sticking
I cannot get enough leverage, using the tool, to free it up!
I cannot get enough leverage, using the tool, to free it up!
Re: REPR Gas Regulator Sticking
goto home depot and get a good spray bolt loosener, shoot it all around the front of the regulator, , stand the rifle up so it will seep down, use an 18mm socket, slowly start moving it around, it will break free, after you did that, use a good carbon or bore cleaner, let it seep around, clean it, all a little oil around it, let it again work around, you will be good to go......
goto home depot and get a good spray bolt loosener, shoot it all around the front of the regulator, , stand the rifle up so it will seep down, use an 18mm socket, slowly start moving it around, it will break free, after you did that, use a good carbon or bore cleaner, let it seep around, clean it, all a little oil around it, let it again work around, you will be good to go......
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What is the root cause, and is there a way to avoid this in the future? Should I try using some type of breaking oil/solvent?
What is the root cause, and is there a way to avoid this in the future? Should I try using some type of breaking oil/solvent?
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the root cause is carbon getting around the shaft, after you break it free and clean it use any good gun oil or kroil around it, work it around, it will be fine...happened to me and every other RFEPR owner
the root cause is carbon getting around the shaft, after you break it free and clean it use any good gun oil or kroil around it, work it around, it will be fine...happened to me and every other RFEPR owner
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A breaking oil to get it loose will be fine
A breaking oil to get it loose will be fine
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I have had this problem from the very begining. Tried just about every magic potion I can think of and it is still stuck. Cannot budge it with that mickey mouse wrench they give you. Before I put a socket on it I would send it back to LWRC on their shipping. You do not want something to break and have them tell you that you abused their poor design that can't be cleaned.
Consider yourself blessed if that is the only problem that you have with this gun.
I have had this problem from the very begining. Tried just about every magic potion I can think of and it is still stuck. Cannot budge it with that mickey mouse wrench they give you. Before I put a socket on it I would send it back to LWRC on their shipping. You do not want something to break and have them tell you that you abused their poor design that can't be cleaned.
Consider yourself blessed if that is the only problem that you have with this gun.
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Can the gas regulator be removed and cleaned; and how?
Can the gas regulator be removed and cleaned; and how?
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The socket trick is what Rodney told me to do from the factory, the only way to remove it is to knock out the roll pin to remove it...
The socket trick is what Rodney told me to do from the factory, the only way to remove it is to knock out the roll pin to remove it...
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Kwak, what issues did you have?
Kwak, what issues did you have?
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You will not find any instructions on cleaning this in their owners manual. They advise that any further cleaning or maintence be done by themselves other than that, that is detailed or shown in the owners manual.
You will not find any instructions on cleaning this in their owners manual. They advise that any further cleaning or maintence be done by themselves other than that, that is detailed or shown in the owners manual.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: spiralseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kwak, what issues did you have? </div></div>
Thanks for asking but I do not want to hi-jack this man's thread with my problems.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: spiralseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kwak, what issues did you have? </div></div>
Thanks for asking but I do not want to hi-jack this man's thread with my problems.
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Is this a design flaw? Have they offered a fix?
Is this a design flaw? Have they offered a fix?
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Ok, a PM?
Ok, a PM?
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Please, Do tell...I am interested in issues that I may encounter!
BTW, Thanks for all you guys help!
Please, Do tell...I am interested in issues that I may encounter!
BTW, Thanks for all you guys help!
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your welcome
your welcome
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OK you asked
First Cocking handle knob/forward assist Falls off(shaft broke)
Second I have had more slam fires with this semi-auto than I have had all together in the last 45 years with all the semi-autos that I have owned.
Third Frozen gas regulator knob
Fourth MOA accuracy is unacceptable but this could be the shooter
It is going back to LWRC soon
These are just facts and I am not in any way trying to use this forum to trash LWRC as I am confident that they will stand behind their product
OK you asked
First Cocking handle knob/forward assist Falls off(shaft broke)
Second I have had more slam fires with this semi-auto than I have had all together in the last 45 years with all the semi-autos that I have owned.
Third Frozen gas regulator knob
Fourth MOA accuracy is unacceptable but this could be the shooter
It is going back to LWRC soon
These are just facts and I am not in any way trying to use this forum to trash LWRC as I am confident that they will stand behind their product
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I did not take it that way; however, I appreciate your honesty! For me, being informed takes the surprise out of unexpected malfunctions.
So far, I have had good luck, however, I have only put 2500 rounds through it.
I did not take it that way; however, I appreciate your honesty! For me, being informed takes the surprise out of unexpected malfunctions.
So far, I have had good luck, however, I have only put 2500 rounds through it.
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Thanks, it is not bashing if you are telling the truth, I did not have those issues, I took apart my own gas knob, as for accuracy , time will tell, I sent mine back to the factory because it was a 2 MOA gun with match ammo, mine is an 18 bbl with a NF 10x scope, match trigger, the factory shot it and the best group was 1 3/8, they said that is acceptable, I spoke with Rich Phoenix, he is head of sales, he told me these guns are not sub MOA guns, they do not have stainless match BBLS, but they will outlast everyone else, and be more reliable, I am going to develop a load for it with a good friend, he has shot his with outstanding results with the load he used....BTW the factory charged me $75 for the range time...I think that is BS...
Thanks, it is not bashing if you are telling the truth, I did not have those issues, I took apart my own gas knob, as for accuracy , time will tell, I sent mine back to the factory because it was a 2 MOA gun with match ammo, mine is an 18 bbl with a NF 10x scope, match trigger, the factory shot it and the best group was 1 3/8, they said that is acceptable, I spoke with Rich Phoenix, he is head of sales, he told me these guns are not sub MOA guns, they do not have stainless match BBLS, but they will outlast everyone else, and be more reliable, I am going to develop a load for it with a good friend, he has shot his with outstanding results with the load he used....BTW the factory charged me $75 for the range time...I think that is BS...
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i can't remember, what is the stated accuracy from the factory?
i can't remember, what is the stated accuracy from the factory?
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They dont have an accuracy claim, but 1.5 MOA is factory acceptable , Factory target:
They dont have an accuracy claim, but 1.5 MOA is factory acceptable , Factory target:
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Thanks for all the information and I look forward to talking with you in the future!
Thanks for all the information and I look forward to talking with you in the future!
Re: REPR Gas Regulator Sticking
Soak the regulator,knob when it is hot with kroil.....wait 24 hrs and then use the tool. Mine stuck just a bit but after 3 drops of kroil and 2 minutes it spun like was on ball bearings.
The other solution is to,remove the pin.....be careful,you,don't loose the pin or,spring and clean it. The copper deposits are causing it to stick. Send it to lwrc and deman they pay for shipping since you paid so much for one of their guns. If theynsaynno just tell them you will blast every online forum about your bad experience and poor cust svc. They should take care of you though. I've never had an issue with their cust svc.
There are no directions to remove the gas reg knob anywhere to,be found.
Soak the regulator,knob when it is hot with kroil.....wait 24 hrs and then use the tool. Mine stuck just a bit but after 3 drops of kroil and 2 minutes it spun like was on ball bearings.
The other solution is to,remove the pin.....be careful,you,don't loose the pin or,spring and clean it. The copper deposits are causing it to stick. Send it to lwrc and deman they pay for shipping since you paid so much for one of their guns. If theynsaynno just tell them you will blast every online forum about your bad experience and poor cust svc. They should take care of you though. I've never had an issue with their cust svc.
There are no directions to remove the gas reg knob anywhere to,be found.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SteelShot11</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Send it to lwrc and <span style="font-weight: bold">demand</span> they pay for shipping since you paid so much for one of their guns. <span style="font-weight: bold">If theynsaynno just tell them you will blast every online forum about your bad experience and poor cust svc.</span> </div></div>
Sorry but this is bad advice....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SteelShot11</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Send it to lwrc and <span style="font-weight: bold">demand</span> they pay for shipping since you paid so much for one of their guns. <span style="font-weight: bold">If theynsaynno just tell them you will blast every online forum about your bad experience and poor cust svc.</span> </div></div>
Sorry but this is bad advice....
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I would buy one if I did not keep seeing these kinds of threads. I swear I keep having guys telling me there 20 inch reprs shoot 1/2 Moa all day long at 300. I just can't bring myself to spend this much cash for so many people saing it has problems.
I would buy one if I did not keep seeing these kinds of threads. I swear I keep having guys telling me there 20 inch reprs shoot 1/2 Moa all day long at 300. I just can't bring myself to spend this much cash for so many people saing it has problems.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Napsters</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would buy one if I did not keep seeing these kinds of threads. I swear I keep having guys telling me there 20 inch reprs shoot 1/2 Moa all day long at 300. I just can't bring myself to spend this much cash for so many people saing it has problems. </div></div>
Forums alike are full of information.... Some good.... Some bad....
Get your hands on one and make a big boy decision (your own).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Napsters</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would buy one if I did not keep seeing these kinds of threads. I swear I keep having guys telling me there 20 inch reprs shoot 1/2 Moa all day long at 300. I just can't bring myself to spend this much cash for so many people saing it has problems. </div></div>
Forums alike are full of information.... Some good.... Some bad....
Get your hands on one and make a big boy decision (your own).
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I'm hoping to take delivery of mine next week. My 5.56 lwrcs are MOA guns with the right ammo. From what I've heard, if you keep the regulator lubed with SLIP or similar from the start, you can avoid the stuck regulator. We'll see. REPR accuracy does get varied reports, so I'm interested to see how mine does.
I'm hoping to take delivery of mine next week. My 5.56 lwrcs are MOA guns with the right ammo. From what I've heard, if you keep the regulator lubed with SLIP or similar from the start, you can avoid the stuck regulator. We'll see. REPR accuracy does get varied reports, so I'm interested to see how mine does.
Re: REPR Gas Regulator Sticking
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Napsters</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would buy one if I did not keep seeing these kinds of threads. I swear I keep having guys telling me there 20 inch reprs shoot 1/2 Moa all day long at 300. I just can't bring myself to spend this much cash for so many people saing it has problems. </div></div>
Forums alike are full of information.... Some good.... Some bad....
Get your hands on one and make a big boy decision (your own).</div></div>
Already did. Bought an AI instead. I won't have problems with a stuck regulator on that one.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Napsters</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would buy one if I did not keep seeing these kinds of threads. I swear I keep having guys telling me there 20 inch reprs shoot 1/2 Moa all day long at 300. I just can't bring myself to spend this much cash for so many people saing it has problems. </div></div>
Forums alike are full of information.... Some good.... Some bad....
Get your hands on one and make a big boy decision (your own).</div></div>
Already did. Bought an AI instead. I won't have problems with a stuck regulator on that one.
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Copper deposits are what causes the stuck regulator. No amount of oil is going to help you. I think the only thing you can do to prevent it is to clean the copper out of it before it gets stuck. I have a friend with a repr and his did the same thing. It had a big copper slug in it.
His repr does shoot very well though. He his a member, I will see if he will come on and help you out.
Copper deposits are what causes the stuck regulator. No amount of oil is going to help you. I think the only thing you can do to prevent it is to clean the copper out of it before it gets stuck. I have a friend with a repr and his did the same thing. It had a big copper slug in it.
His repr does shoot very well though. He his a member, I will see if he will come on and help you out.
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From what I understand these rifles seem to love heavy pills and handloads... they just dont do well with factory ammo, as for copper deposits, could be, or carbon, mine was stuck, but now again turns on a dime...never had an issue since, as for their customer service it is awsome....they will try their best best to take care of you..as for blasting them on a forum...honestly dude...you think that makes a difference to them? Please...
From what I understand these rifles seem to love heavy pills and handloads... they just dont do well with factory ammo, as for copper deposits, could be, or carbon, mine was stuck, but now again turns on a dime...never had an issue since, as for their customer service it is awsome....they will try their best best to take care of you..as for blasting them on a forum...honestly dude...you think that makes a difference to them? Please...
Re: REPR Gas Regulator Sticking
I have a 20" upper that only has approximately 600 rounds through it and is stuck, however, the 16" upper that I have spins like a top after 1900 rounds.
Using the same ammo and treating them the same.
I have no problem performing more maint. on this parts of the system, however, I just want to be more aware of it; and have a soultion for the extra maint.
I love this thing!!
I have a 20" upper that only has approximately 600 rounds through it and is stuck, however, the 16" upper that I have spins like a top after 1900 rounds.
Using the same ammo and treating them the same.
I have no problem performing more maint. on this parts of the system, however, I just want to be more aware of it; and have a soultion for the extra maint.
I love this thing!!
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I wonder if there is some type high temperature Teflon lubricate that won't boil off and keep it moving.
I wonder if there is some type high temperature Teflon lubricate that won't boil off and keep it moving.
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Mine shoots lights our with heavy match loads.
Be sure to spin your knob every 50 rounds or so and take it off every 200 rounds and you won't have any issues. Mine has been through hell and back and has never had any issues. At the last 3 mils right match we shot I dragged it through the sand and set it to 'A' (or shit ton of gas) and it blew the sand out and didn't have any issues even full of sand.
Ff it's stuck you probably have a copper slug in it. It will look like a spiral piece of copper. There is a design flaw in the gun i feel, but if you make the gas regulator part of your regular cleaning it resolves the issue. It takes an extra 15 minutes. I have never needed a wrench to turn mine. Does LWRC suggest oil on it? I run mine dry as a bone and it seems to help. I would be interested to see what LWRC suggests.
Mine is a solid .75 MOA gun all day long with SW 175 Match.
1. get a white towel and lay the gun on it
2. drive the roll pin out on the white towel.
3. there is a BB that will fall out when you remove the knob. I have lost 3.
The white towel really helps find the damn thing.
4. Use an ultrasonic cleaner if you have one to clean all the parts.
5. To install, set BB on top of the indent and place knob on top then drive the roll pin back in.
Mine shoots lights our with heavy match loads.
Be sure to spin your knob every 50 rounds or so and take it off every 200 rounds and you won't have any issues. Mine has been through hell and back and has never had any issues. At the last 3 mils right match we shot I dragged it through the sand and set it to 'A' (or shit ton of gas) and it blew the sand out and didn't have any issues even full of sand.
Ff it's stuck you probably have a copper slug in it. It will look like a spiral piece of copper. There is a design flaw in the gun i feel, but if you make the gas regulator part of your regular cleaning it resolves the issue. It takes an extra 15 minutes. I have never needed a wrench to turn mine. Does LWRC suggest oil on it? I run mine dry as a bone and it seems to help. I would be interested to see what LWRC suggests.
Mine is a solid .75 MOA gun all day long with SW 175 Match.
1. get a white towel and lay the gun on it
2. drive the roll pin out on the white towel.
3. there is a BB that will fall out when you remove the knob. I have lost 3.
The white towel really helps find the damn thing.
4. Use an ultrasonic cleaner if you have one to clean all the parts.
5. To install, set BB on top of the indent and place knob on top then drive the roll pin back in.
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Your Awesome!
Do you have to replace the roll pin every time? do you know the size?
Your Awesome!
Do you have to replace the roll pin every time? do you know the size?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZRM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mine shoots lights our with heavy match loads.
Be sure to spin your knob every 50 rounds or so and take it off every 200 rounds and you won't have any issues. Mine has been through hell and back and has never had any issues. At the last 3 mils right match we shot I dragged it through the sand and set it to 'A' (or shit ton of gas) and it blew the sand out and didn't have any issues even full of sand.
Ff it's stuck you probably have a copper slug in it. It will look like a spiral piece of copper. There is a design flaw in the gun i feel, but if you make the gas regulator part of your regular cleaning it resolves the issue. It takes an extra 15 minutes. I have never needed a wrench to turn mine. Does LWRC suggest oil on it? I run mine dry as a bone and it seems to help. I would be interested to see what LWRC suggests.
Mine is a solid .75 MOA gun all day long with SW 175 Match.
1. get a white towel and lay the gun on it
2. drive the roll pin out on the white towel.
3. there is a BB that will fall out when you remove the knob. I have lost 3.
The white towel really helps find the damn thing.
4. Use an ultrasonic cleaner if you have one to clean all the parts.
5. To install, set BB on top of the indent and place knob on top then drive the roll pin back in.</div></div>
If you have to twist the regulator every 50 rounds it's going to cut down the amount of time you have to shoot 55 rounds.
Rate of Fire: 55 RPM (Sustained ROF)
I have to admit they are very nice rifles, but there has to be a better way of handling the regulator. I see some people talking about using graphite powder to dry lube it. I would call LWRC and ask them before trying this though.
I wonder if this issue has to do with increasing the size of the gas port to operate the 308. I don't hear people saing their M6a3's are having this problem.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZRM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mine shoots lights our with heavy match loads.
Be sure to spin your knob every 50 rounds or so and take it off every 200 rounds and you won't have any issues. Mine has been through hell and back and has never had any issues. At the last 3 mils right match we shot I dragged it through the sand and set it to 'A' (or shit ton of gas) and it blew the sand out and didn't have any issues even full of sand.
Ff it's stuck you probably have a copper slug in it. It will look like a spiral piece of copper. There is a design flaw in the gun i feel, but if you make the gas regulator part of your regular cleaning it resolves the issue. It takes an extra 15 minutes. I have never needed a wrench to turn mine. Does LWRC suggest oil on it? I run mine dry as a bone and it seems to help. I would be interested to see what LWRC suggests.
Mine is a solid .75 MOA gun all day long with SW 175 Match.
1. get a white towel and lay the gun on it
2. drive the roll pin out on the white towel.
3. there is a BB that will fall out when you remove the knob. I have lost 3.
The white towel really helps find the damn thing.
4. Use an ultrasonic cleaner if you have one to clean all the parts.
5. To install, set BB on top of the indent and place knob on top then drive the roll pin back in.</div></div>
If you have to twist the regulator every 50 rounds it's going to cut down the amount of time you have to shoot 55 rounds.
Rate of Fire: 55 RPM (Sustained ROF)
I have to admit they are very nice rifles, but there has to be a better way of handling the regulator. I see some people talking about using graphite powder to dry lube it. I would call LWRC and ask them before trying this though.
I wonder if this issue has to do with increasing the size of the gas port to operate the 308. I don't hear people saing their M6a3's are having this problem.
Re: REPR Gas Regulator Sticking
well here is the fix i used on mine .take front apart very carefully ball bearing will roll off ...put nice coat of high temp nickel never seize on the nozzle tube inside the gas block area and put to together .. this was told by C.S. when i called in warranty and for the rail kit ...lwrc never put any never seize but lw25 grease .... repr love tuned loads the best -find what it likes and feed well !
well here is the fix i used on mine .take front apart very carefully ball bearing will roll off ...put nice coat of high temp nickel never seize on the nozzle tube inside the gas block area and put to together .. this was told by C.S. when i called in warranty and for the rail kit ...lwrc never put any never seize but lw25 grease .... repr love tuned loads the best -find what it likes and feed well !
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THANKS YOU
got my 20" repr last week
the regulator would not move
after shooting 120 rounds thru it and trying to move it with wrench on range but could not get it to budge
came across your thread on google
i tried 18mm socket and clp break free...after getting wrench to make it move and lubing it i can now turn it by hand,,,,,thanks for the fix
my main complant with repr is the recoil
upgrading pad on magpul to ticker option/also going to add limbsaver....
you guys saved me on the regulator....how about the recoil?
any other ideas???
THANKS YOU
got my 20" repr last week
the regulator would not move
after shooting 120 rounds thru it and trying to move it with wrench on range but could not get it to budge
came across your thread on google
i tried 18mm socket and clp break free...after getting wrench to make it move and lubing it i can now turn it by hand,,,,,thanks for the fix
my main complant with repr is the recoil
upgrading pad on magpul to ticker option/also going to add limbsaver....
you guys saved me on the regulator....how about the recoil?
any other ideas???
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I emailed limbsaver and asked if they have a pad for the Gen 1 PRS. They never provided any information or my email.
I am also looking at hydraulic buffers to reduce the recoil.
I emailed limbsaver and asked if they have a pad for the Gen 1 PRS. They never provided any information or my email.
I am also looking at hydraulic buffers to reduce the recoil.
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Throw a BABC muzzle brake by BattleComp on there. The difference is significant.
Throw a BABC muzzle brake by BattleComp on there. The difference is significant.
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I am looking into a hydraulic buffer for mine!
I am looking into a hydraulic buffer for mine!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NatD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am looking into a hydraulic buffer for mine! </div></div>
You MAY want to consider consulting with LWRC before swapping in a hydraulic buffer. May not be the best idea...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NatD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am looking into a hydraulic buffer for mine! </div></div>
You MAY want to consider consulting with LWRC before swapping in a hydraulic buffer. May not be the best idea...
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What are your thoughts regarding it? Will it cause malufunctions?
What are your thoughts regarding it? Will it cause malufunctions?
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