Would like some advise deciding between these two rifles. What do you guy's think is the better rifle? more accurate or a better value. I like both about the same although the folding TRG is more money. I can buy either one it's just deciding witch one????? Please give your opinions....
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Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
Flip a coin. Heads buy the AE, tails buy the TRG.
Seriously, you cant go wrong with either.
Some prefer the traditional stock to a thumbhole and vice versa, for me I've shot both and own a TRG so that doesnt matter much to me.
Both will shoot and are equally capable of accuracy as much as the shooter can guarantee.
If money isnt a problem for you I would advise buying both. Or a TRG and an AW or AX.
Make a decision and buy one instead of pondering which one is better you can eventually get both and then decide for yourself.
There is a member here on the hide by the name of BM11 (I think thats his SN) that a few years back was in the same predicament as you are. He got a TRG, then sold it to fund an AI AW, then eventually bought a TRG folder, and recently he picked up an AI AX to add to the group.
Flip a coin. Heads buy the AE, tails buy the TRG.
Seriously, you cant go wrong with either.
Some prefer the traditional stock to a thumbhole and vice versa, for me I've shot both and own a TRG so that doesnt matter much to me.
Both will shoot and are equally capable of accuracy as much as the shooter can guarantee.
If money isnt a problem for you I would advise buying both. Or a TRG and an AW or AX.
Make a decision and buy one instead of pondering which one is better you can eventually get both and then decide for yourself.
There is a member here on the hide by the name of BM11 (I think thats his SN) that a few years back was in the same predicament as you are. He got a TRG, then sold it to fund an AI AW, then eventually bought a TRG folder, and recently he picked up an AI AX to add to the group.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
I was deciding between AI AW and TRG 22 folders in .308 last year and ended up going for the AI. One of the big deciding factors for me was the ease of getting accessories and parts from AI. Whatever you need—a new magazine to a new barrel—you can have it on its way to you the next business day. Not so with Sako.
—Andreas
I was deciding between AI AW and TRG 22 folders in .308 last year and ended up going for the AI. One of the big deciding factors for me was the ease of getting accessories and parts from AI. Whatever you need—a new magazine to a new barrel—you can have it on its way to you the next business day. Not so with Sako.
—Andreas
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
+1 vote for the AE. I own the AE and the AW and I see no benefit of the AW over the AE. I actually shot better with the AE. If I had known this, I would not have purchased the AW first. Live and learn I guess.
+1 vote for the AE. I own the AE and the AW and I see no benefit of the AW over the AE. I actually shot better with the AE. If I had known this, I would not have purchased the AW first. Live and learn I guess.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beenjammin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I own the AE and the AW and I see no benefit of the AW over the AE.
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Stronger action and switch barrel ability aren't benefits?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beenjammin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I own the AE and the AW and I see no benefit of the AW over the AE.
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Stronger action and switch barrel ability aren't benefits?
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
ok, as far as accuracy you guy's agree then that both will or are as capable as the other? I guess this is like the old argument; Ford is better than Chevy, no chevy is better than Ford. I get it, it's what ever turns you on about these particular rifles. I have to admit I like the TRG a lot and was going to buy one until I started reading stuff here on the hide about the AI. Damm I have to buy a bigger safe and my wife thinks I'm nutts.... thanks guy's
ok, as far as accuracy you guy's agree then that both will or are as capable as the other? I guess this is like the old argument; Ford is better than Chevy, no chevy is better than Ford. I get it, it's what ever turns you on about these particular rifles. I have to admit I like the TRG a lot and was going to buy one until I started reading stuff here on the hide about the AI. Damm I have to buy a bigger safe and my wife thinks I'm nutts.... thanks guy's
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
I just picked up a TRG-22 and I love it. I enjoy the AI platform but prefer the Sako for personal preference.
I just picked up a TRG-22 and I love it. I enjoy the AI platform but prefer the Sako for personal preference.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LarryA</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beenjammin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I own the AE and the AW and I see no benefit of the AW over the AE.
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Stronger action and switch barrel ability aren't benefits? </div></div>
I believe you can switch barrels on AE's also. Using the same tools to boot.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LarryA</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beenjammin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I own the AE and the AW and I see no benefit of the AW over the AE.
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Stronger action and switch barrel ability aren't benefits?
I believe you can switch barrels on AE's also. Using the same tools to boot.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
I too have always liked sako and I own a Sako hunting rifle, Sako has a long tradition of building very reliable and accurate guns throughout their history. I really like their folding TRG model and it's probably what I will oder.
I too have always liked sako and I own a Sako hunting rifle, Sako has a long tradition of building very reliable and accurate guns throughout their history. I really like their folding TRG model and it's probably what I will oder.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
win-win decision really i have owned both and currently own a aiae mkii. needless to say after having owned both of these it would be very tough to go back to any other rifle made
Pros of each
trg
better trigger
flush 10rd mags
best bipod made!!!
lighter weight
very comfortable stock for most people (including me)
smoothest action i have used
aiae
built like you could drive over it with humvee
cheaper acc.
better acc. prices
strongest feeling action i have used
if you want folder lots cheaper
to date the most reliable rifle i have owned!!!
fully adjustable (very important to me since i am 6'6"
similarities
2 stage triggers
3 lug actions
both easy to switch barrels on
both on chassis
both factory tack drivers
both have great mag systems
win-win decision really i have owned both and currently own a aiae mkii. needless to say after having owned both of these it would be very tough to go back to any other rifle made
Pros of each
trg
better trigger
flush 10rd mags
best bipod made!!!
lighter weight
very comfortable stock for most people (including me)
smoothest action i have used
aiae
built like you could drive over it with humvee
cheaper acc.
better acc. prices
strongest feeling action i have used
if you want folder lots cheaper
to date the most reliable rifle i have owned!!!
fully adjustable (very important to me since i am 6'6"
similarities
2 stage triggers
3 lug actions
both easy to switch barrels on
both on chassis
both factory tack drivers
both have great mag systems
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
Both great, try to shoot both before you buy, I found the TRG more comfy, you will not feel shortchanged with either.
Both great, try to shoot both before you buy, I found the TRG more comfy, you will not feel shortchanged with either.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TeamSendIt!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body">win-win decision really i have owned both and currently own a aiae mkii. needless to say after having owned both of these it would be very tough to go back to any other rifle made
Pros of each
trg
better trigger
flush 10rd mags
best bipod made!!!
lighter weight
very comfortable stock for most people (including me)
smoothest action i have used
aiae
built like you could drive over it with humvee
cheaper acc.
better acc. prices
strongest feeling action i have used
if you want folder lots cheaper
to date the most reliable rifle i have owned!!!
fully adjustable (very important to me since i am 6'6"
similarities
2 stage triggers
3 lug actions
both easy to switch barrels on
both on chassis
both factory tack drivers
both have great mag systems </div></div>
Very well put. It is win win!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TeamSendIt!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body">win-win decision really i have owned both and currently own a aiae mkii. needless to say after having owned both of these it would be very tough to go back to any other rifle made
Pros of each
trg
better trigger
flush 10rd mags
best bipod made!!!
lighter weight
very comfortable stock for most people (including me)
smoothest action i have used
aiae
built like you could drive over it with humvee
cheaper acc.
better acc. prices
strongest feeling action i have used
if you want folder lots cheaper
to date the most reliable rifle i have owned!!!
fully adjustable (very important to me since i am 6'6"
similarities
2 stage triggers
3 lug actions
both easy to switch barrels on
both on chassis
both factory tack drivers
both have great mag systems </div></div>
Very well put. It is win win!
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
It's hard to argue with the bulletproof reliability of the AE.
The TRG has a smooth, quick action and a very comfortable stock. If you have a long LOP and larger hands, an AE may need a set of Viperskins.
It's been said, but you really can't lose. Congratulations either way. You'll be very pleased.
It's hard to argue with the bulletproof reliability of the AE.
The TRG has a smooth, quick action and a very comfortable stock. If you have a long LOP and larger hands, an AE may need a set of Viperskins.
It's been said, but you really can't lose. Congratulations either way. You'll be very pleased.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fitz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I believe you can switch barrels on AE's also. Using the same tools to boot. </div></div>
Really now?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fitz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I believe you can switch barrels on AE's also. Using the same tools to boot. </div></div>
Really now?
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
I had the same debate. In the end I went with the Sako with the folding stock despite the outlandishly priced accessories because Eurooptics made me a killer deal. If you want to save yourself $1800 on the Sako folder, take a look at a fixed stock Sako and using the KRG folding stock. The only lost functionality is a lack of a monopod but the provisions are there for an Accushot unit.
I knew owning the LE-oriented AIAE (even the mk3) would always make me wish I paid for the AIAW. The differences are slight but one has been their flagship military offering for decades and the other is a more budget-oriented model. I know this is relative and its still stronger than most any rifle made out there. I know that isn't a rational argument at all. I know I would be happy with the performance of the AIAE because there are no differences in performance.
Another issue was optics mounting. There are several "picatinny vs dovetail" discussions on the AIAW and Sako rifles and people seem to prefer the dovetail for simplicity's sake. Rails have been known to loosen up, albiet on magnum calibers. Both have lugged rails. The AIAE has a weird rail spacing and I believe they don't have recoil lugs. Maybe not a big deal with .308 recoil but it gives peace of mind if you drop it as recoil lugs would prevent 2lbs of scope from shifting an intermediate rail.
Both platforms are reliable. Sako (under Berretta) has a reputation for having difficult-to-get parts but since they rarely break it isn't a concern for myself. I checked with Alex at Eurooptics and there aren't really any commonly broken parts that he was aware of. I don't use it for a living or compete so potential downtime isn't critical for me. The AI is definitely more popular and has better support. It also has more aftermarket goodies for it. The Sako has never achieved the same popularity but few people have complaints about them. You won't go wrong with either and you probably won't find a person here with serious complaints about either platform. Most complaints are personal ergonomic issues with either make.
I had the same debate. In the end I went with the Sako with the folding stock despite the outlandishly priced accessories because Eurooptics made me a killer deal. If you want to save yourself $1800 on the Sako folder, take a look at a fixed stock Sako and using the KRG folding stock. The only lost functionality is a lack of a monopod but the provisions are there for an Accushot unit.
I knew owning the LE-oriented AIAE (even the mk3) would always make me wish I paid for the AIAW. The differences are slight but one has been their flagship military offering for decades and the other is a more budget-oriented model. I know this is relative and its still stronger than most any rifle made out there. I know that isn't a rational argument at all. I know I would be happy with the performance of the AIAE because there are no differences in performance.
Another issue was optics mounting. There are several "picatinny vs dovetail" discussions on the AIAW and Sako rifles and people seem to prefer the dovetail for simplicity's sake. Rails have been known to loosen up, albiet on magnum calibers. Both have lugged rails. The AIAE has a weird rail spacing and I believe they don't have recoil lugs. Maybe not a big deal with .308 recoil but it gives peace of mind if you drop it as recoil lugs would prevent 2lbs of scope from shifting an intermediate rail.
Both platforms are reliable. Sako (under Berretta) has a reputation for having difficult-to-get parts but since they rarely break it isn't a concern for myself. I checked with Alex at Eurooptics and there aren't really any commonly broken parts that he was aware of. I don't use it for a living or compete so potential downtime isn't critical for me. The AI is definitely more popular and has better support. It also has more aftermarket goodies for it. The Sako has never achieved the same popularity but few people have complaints about them. You won't go wrong with either and you probably won't find a person here with serious complaints about either platform. Most complaints are personal ergonomic issues with either make.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
Some TRG-22's have ejection issues; for that reason alone they are not nearly as reliable as the AI.
Unless Sako has corrected the ejection issue I would go with the AI.
Some TRG-22's have ejection issues; for that reason alone they are not nearly as reliable as the AI.
Unless Sako has corrected the ejection issue I would go with the AI.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
The only ejection complaints I've seen folks voice were due to working the bolt slow. The Sako doesn't eject very far at all so if you work it slow, the brass could flop right back into the action.
The only ejection complaints I've seen folks voice were due to working the bolt slow. The Sako doesn't eject very far at all so if you work it slow, the brass could flop right back into the action.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
I had both, like everybody already point out, you can't go wrong with either. I still have the TRG because it just fits me better. The thumbhole thing just didn't work for me. I find the TRG easier to get behind and find a consistent position to shoot from.
I had both, like everybody already point out, you can't go wrong with either. I still have the TRG because it just fits me better. The thumbhole thing just didn't work for me. I find the TRG easier to get behind and find a consistent position to shoot from.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cesiumsponge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only ejection complaints I've seen folks voice were due to working the bolt slow. The Sako doesn't eject very far at all so if you work it slow, the brass could flop right back into the action. </div></div>
It's a bolt action rifle; they should be able to figure out ejection. Even running the bolt fast results in anemic ejection, and in some cases does not solve the problem. To have such a critical issue on a rifle that is priced in the same league as AI's is disappointing. The TRG-42's do not suffer from this problem which leads me to believe they should be able to resolve it on the 22's if they really wanted to.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cesiumsponge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only ejection complaints I've seen folks voice were due to working the bolt slow. The Sako doesn't eject very far at all so if you work it slow, the brass could flop right back into the action. </div></div>
It's a bolt action rifle; they should be able to figure out ejection. Even running the bolt fast results in anemic ejection, and in some cases does not solve the problem. To have such a critical issue on a rifle that is priced in the same league as AI's is disappointing. The TRG-42's do not suffer from this problem which leads me to believe they should be able to resolve it on the 22's if they really wanted to.
Re: AI AE308 vs TRG22 advise needed
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cesiumsponge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only ejection complaints I've seen folks voice were due to working the bolt slow. The Sako doesn't eject very far at all so if you work it slow, the brass could flop right back into the action. </div></div>
It's a bolt action rifle; they should be able to figure out ejection. Even running the bolt fast results in anemic ejection, and in some cases does not solve the problem. To have such a critical issue on a rifle that is priced in the same league as AI's is disappointing. The TRG-42's do not suffer from this problem which leads me to believe they should be able to resolve it on the 22's if they really wanted to. </div></div>
How often do you see this problem with TRGs?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cesiumsponge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only ejection complaints I've seen folks voice were due to working the bolt slow. The Sako doesn't eject very far at all so if you work it slow, the brass could flop right back into the action. </div></div>
It's a bolt action rifle; they should be able to figure out ejection. Even running the bolt fast results in anemic ejection, and in some cases does not solve the problem. To have such a critical issue on a rifle that is priced in the same league as AI's is disappointing. The TRG-42's do not suffer from this problem which leads me to believe they should be able to resolve it on the 22's if they really wanted to. </div></div>
How often do you see this problem with TRGs?
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