OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

[opshin556]

ok guys, just a real quick reason which of the 3 iyo would be best based on scenario:

models are the OBR, predatOBR and predatAR

i know all the specs inside and out, im just doing research on actual usage by operators, comp shooters, hunters, whatever, on actual field experience so far.

shooter already has .556 carbine, dmr type, .308 bolt, M1A etc.

looking for General Purpose Rifle

GPR would be carried most of the time less than 10 miles a day when hunting man or beast.

optics would highly likely be 1.5-6 or USO or similiar.

GPR would be carried in vehicle all day at times, driving on dirt roads, carried out of case, leaning on seat.

GPR will have ability to take down large game animals the size of elk with one well placed shot.

GPR will be main go to gun, .556 carbine will be #2

All research I have done to date has me purchasing the predatOBR 16.1 in 7.62, slapping a USO 1.5-6 on it, grabbing 8-10 Pmags and calling it good.

lastly, the damn thing should be handy and easy to shoot off hand, over the car window when seated, etc.

But you guys are the experts, looking for simple opinions of those who run em.

 

[K_4c]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

I have the OBR (20" barrel)... It's to heavy for your needs... but it is a hammer.

predatOBR...best option for your purpose.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the OBR (20" barrel)... It's to heavy for your needs... but it is a hammer.

predatOBR...best option for your purpose. </div></div>

One of the guys here locally has one on order. I'm really interested to see it when it comes in. It looks like an interesting platform. Have you been able to get your hands on one yet?

 

[BCP]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

Have you read DMACK's thread about his PWS? There is a place in Sacramento stocking them. One of those in 14.5" with a good 1-4 optic would be about as light and handy as you can get without seriously sacrificing barrel profile or accessories.

edit: no idea if a 14" 308 would take an elk (have a 30-06 for that) but pigs, deer at reasonable distances would die no problem provided you do your part.

 

[DP425]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

BE AWARE, LARUE NOW FLUTES THEIR CHAMBERS... It's not a heavy fluting like you see in HK's, but it is there and it makes reloading harder and works the brass more.

Having said that, for what it sounds like you want... PreditAR .308, 16" or 18" barrel.


I have a 20" OBR and it is a heavy bitch... just as much if not more than the M110.

 

[BCP]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BE AWARE, LARUE NOW FLUTES THEIR CHAMBERS</div></div>

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Would be a dealbreaker for me. I handload ALL my 308s and brass life is paramount.

 

[Kinsman09]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

I think a guy would have to look at if he needed a weapon for use in a protracted fire fight and that weapon would need to be used with a sustained rate of fire. If so, then the heavier barrel of the PredatOBR would be a good call. If not, then I would say the PredatAR would be the call. The OBR is a precision rifle and I don’t think it would suit your uses.

A 14" .308 would take an Elk out fine to any sane distance. people use pistols on Elk all the time. Its a matter of energy and shot placement.

 

[Dsparil]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

I run the 16 inch and love it. Even loaded it is perfectly balanced and light weight enough to run offhand imo.

 

[George Mac]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

Ophin,

"GPR would be carried most of the time less than 10 miles a day when hunting man or beast"

From your profile you are neither Mil or LE. When you start talking, even tongue in cheek, about carrying a weapon for multiple miles for hunt man, you start to enter into some questionable though processes. As a firearms instructor you should be very aware of this. Words have meaning and some carry more weight than others.

 

[sardiniagunner]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

I have an 18" obr and it would be too heavy. I can make hits off hand with it but it is more than I want to lug around all day.

my 2 cents

 

[Snake Plissken]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

What's your budget?

 

[George Mac]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

I have had a Familiarization Fire out to 200 yards with the 18" and I found it to balance well and shoot almost as well as a bolt gun. I have not tried the 16" or 20" but at the moment the 18" with a surefire break/can and a PRS stock or Larue riser has my vote.

 

[AEROMechanic]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BE AWARE, LARUE NOW FLUTES THEIR CHAMBERS</div></div>

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Would be a dealbreaker for me. I handload ALL my 308s and brass life is paramount. </div></div> Do they flute chambers in all three models?

 

[mkollman74]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

I love my 18" OBR, but it is probably a bit heavier than what you would need.

 

[opshin556]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

Thanks guys for the opinions.
All but one was helpful.

 

[opshin556]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: George Mac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ophin,

"GPR would be carried most of the time less than 10 miles a day when hunting man or beast"

From your profile you are neither Mil or LE. When you start talking, even tongue in cheek, about carrying a weapon for multiple miles for hunt man, you start to enter into some questionable though processes. As a firearms instructor you should be very aware of this. Words have meaning and some carry more weight than others.</div></div>

wtf? you know nothing about me.
I suggest you answer the post as asked and keep your dumbass statements to your self.

 

[George Mac]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: opshin556</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: George Mac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ophin,

"GPR would be carried most of the time less than 10 miles a day when hunting man or beast"

From your profile you are neither Mil or LE. When you start talking, even tongue in cheek, about carrying a weapon for multiple miles for hunt man, you start to enter into some questionable though processes. As a firearms instructor you should be very aware of this. Words have meaning and some carry more weight than others.</div></div>

wtf? you know nothing about me.
I suggest you answer the post as asked and keep your dumbass statements to your self. </div></div>

Thats fine. When you or one of you students shoots a human and you become the defendant, the prosecution with roast you for those comments. The public database search software will pull up everything you have ever posted and it will haunt you on the stand.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

Seriously though George, I think you read into it a little too much. We're all on the same plane here, we all know what he's talking about. He was speaking in the hypothetical, not that he was literally going to hunt anybody.

Don't kid yourself into thinking we buy these particular weapons, equip them as such with all the upgrades (optics/grips/lights/stocks, etc), and invest 1000s of dollars into ammo, gear, and training with them, all without targets of the two legged variety in mind.

"Oh but gun competitions..." Bullshit. That's not why the manufacturers make them, unless we're talking SVI race guns, never mind the fact that most competitions use man-shaped targets anyway.

Would it have been more politically correct and acceptable if he said "for the purposes of hunting and self defense?"

Point is, I understood what he meant. He wasn't being vague or cryptic in his message. Try not to over react like that in the future, or YOU might get somebody in trouble.

 

[gathumper]

Re: OBR which of the 3 in 7.62

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Snake Plissken</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seriously though George, I think you read into it a little too much. We're all on the same plane here, we all know what he's talking about. He was speaking in the hypothetical, not that he was literally going to hunt anybody.

Don't kid yourself into thinking we buy these particular weapons, equip them as such with all the upgrades (optics/grips/lights/stocks, etc), and invest 1000s of dollars into ammo, gear, and training with them, all without targets of the two legged variety in mind.

"Oh but gun competitions..." Bullshit. That's not why the manufacturers make them, unless we're talking SVI race guns, never mind the fact that most competitions use man-shaped targets anyway.

Would it have been more politically correct and acceptable if he said "for the purposes of hunting and self defense?"

Point is, I understood what he meant. He wasn't being vague or cryptic in his message. Try not to over react like that in the future, or YOU might get somebody in trouble. </div></div>

What he said!!!