Redding Type S FL sizer

[Jackalope33B]

Im about to purchase a Redding Type S FL die. I have read Redding requirements on how to measure your brass and get the correct Bushing. Well, I just measured some loaded rounds and got a avg reading of .336 I also measured some fired brass and got a avg reading of .341 So two questions here. First, is it safe to buy (2) bushings at .334 & .335, or just get one of them? Second do I need to buy another Bushing to bring the fired case down some to say .338, then use one of the other Bushing being .335 OR .334? I read somewhere that you dont want to use only 1 bushing to bring the neck down a great deal at one time, in other words, do it in increments so your NOT over working the brass.

Thanks!

 

[RTH1800]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

Get a .334 and that is all you need.

 

[RugerSlinger]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

.334 will work for you, no need to waste your money buying the .335 unless it is a know size you will need for different brand of brass.
The concern with sizing it down in one step is that you will get a donut at the shoulder of the case but I dont think you will have a problem with that.

 

[Jackalope33B]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

Thanks Guys!! Off to Sinclair I go

 

[bas402]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

Depends on how much neck tension you require for your rifle. On my bolt rifles I run .002" neck tension and on my semi's I run .003".
Sully

 

[repiv]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

And it REALLY depends on the brass you use. The bushing I use with Lapua brass holds the bullet with .001 tension. If I use the same bushing and size on another brand that is thinner the bullet falls into the mouth of the case.

.334 is not going to be best for every application.



read here

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...358#Post3200358

 

[Jackalope33B]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

How do you determine how much neck tension ones rifle would need?
This is for a bolt gun.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 402</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depends on how much neck tension you require for your rifle. On my bolt rifles I run .002" neck tension and on my semi's I run .003".
Sully </div></div>

 

[Jackalope33B]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

Sry. This will be used for Winchester brass.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: repiv</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And it REALLY depends on the brass you use. The bushing I use with Lapua brass holds the bullet with .001 tension. If I use the same bushing and size on another brand that is thinner the bullet falls into the mouth of the case.

.334 is not going to be best for every application.



read here

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...358#Post3200358 </div></div>

 

[ChrisGarrett]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jackalope33B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im about to purchase a Redding Type S FL die. I have read Redding requirements on how to measure your brass and get the correct Bushing. Well, I just measured some loaded rounds and got a avg reading of .336 I also measured some fired brass and got a avg reading of .341 So two questions here. First, is it safe to buy (2) bushings at .334 & .335, or just get one of them? Second do I need to buy another Bushing to bring the fired case down some to say .338, then use one of the other Bushing being .335 OR .334? I read somewhere that you dont want to use only 1 bushing to bring the neck down a great deal at one time, in other words, do it in increments so your NOT over working the brass.

Thanks! </div></div>

I use a step down bushing and run two neck sizing dies in tandem, after the body die, on my Dillon 550b.

I'll use a .340", or even a .339" TiNi bushing in the first neck sizer, since my Savage 10FP LE2b blows out my necks to ~.344"-.345".

I'll then place X, Y or Z sized bushing in the final neck bushing die, along with its decapping stem, which I've removed from the first neck bushing die, so for every pull of the handle, I bump the shoulders back an amount, step down to .340" and then the final size, decapping in that station.

Chris

 

[repiv]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

Winchester brass you might be ok with .334, .335 or maybe even .336. It also matters what tension you want such as for a bolt gun or auto.

With my stuff i dont want more tension than i need.

 

[Jackalope33B]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

It is for a bolt gun. Why would .336 be ok if thats the measurement I got when I measured a loaded round per Redding's instructions? Doesnt that defeat the purpose of using bushings?
Also, how do you determine how much tension you need?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: repiv</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Winchester brass you might be ok with .334, .335 or maybe even .336. It also matters what tension you want such as for a bolt gun or auto.

With my stuff i dont want more tension than i need. </div></div>

 

[FLIGHT762]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

I use a .337" for Federal brass, .335" for Remington brass, .333" for hornady brass and a .331" for Winchester brass.

I'm using the -.001" measured from a loaded cartridge. I get sufficient neck tension for my bolt guns. For my auto, I bought enough bushings to step down another .001" or .002" for a tighter neck.

The Winchester brass I have has the thinnest necks.

 

[bas402]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

What was the loaded round you measured @.336? Did you reload it or was it factory ammo. From the measurements you supplied .336" loaded and .341" fired, your necks are expanding .005" to fill your chamber, are they sooty around the neck? seems excessive, SAMMI spec is .003-.004 clearance on necks/chamber walls. you can determine your bushing size (3) ways,(1)take a virgin case and measure wall thickness (use a ball mic not calipers)X 2 + bullet dia Example: .015 X 2 + .308. = .338" This should equal a loaded round at the neck when you seat a bullet in virgin brass. (2) cast the chamber to determine the measurments required. (3)I use factory rounds to sight in, measure before firing and then after, your case .341 - neck tension desired .002" = .339". I must add that will only work with this lot/mfgr of brass you are running. When you change lots or mfgr you must take the measurements again to verify proper neck tension. I kiss turn all my W/W brass to eliminate this hassle and to insure consistant neck tension all the way around my loads but then again I'm anal but I also don't have drawers full of different sizes of neck bushings for when I change mfgr/lots. I'm sure there are other tricks or short cuts that others will bring to the thread. Just the way I do it and it works for all my rigs.
Sully

 

[Jackalope33B]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

It was rounds that I loaded. They are a little sooty around the neck, but not much.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 402</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What was the loaded round you measured @.336? Did you reload it or was it factory ammo. From the measurements you supplied .336" loaded and .341" fired, your necks are expanding .005" to fill your chamber, are they sooty around the neck? seems excessive, SAMMI spec is .003-.004 clearance on necks/chamber walls. you can determine your bushing size (3) ways,(1)take a virgin case and measure wall thickness (use a ball mic not calipers)X 2 + bullet dia Example: .015 X 2 + .308. = .338" This should equal a loaded round at the neck when you seat a bullet in virgin brass. (2) cast the chamber to determine the measurments required. (3)I use factory rounds to sight in, measure before firing and then after, your case .341 - neck tension desired .002" = .339". I must add that will only work with this lot/mfgr of brass you are running. When you change lots or mfgr you must take the measurements again to verify proper neck tension. I kiss turn all my W/W brass to eliminate this hassle and to insure consistant neck tension all the way around my loads but then again I'm anal but I also don't have drawers full of different sizes of neck bushings for when I change mfgr/lots. I'm sure there are other tricks or short cuts that others will bring to the thread. Just the way I do it and it works for all my rigs.
Sully
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[ejb]

Re: Redding Type S FL sizer

I just got my redding comp.bushing neck die in 308 and i also use win. brass. my loaded rounds measured .335 so i got a .334 titaniun bushing and so far things are ok it should be ok for you also