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Rifle Scopes Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

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I have a Mark 4 4.5-14x50 w/ illuminated TMR on a 700 308. I shot a 6.5-20 VX-3 this past weekend to 200 and liked having a bit more power so, I was thinking about upgrading. The gun has badger rings and base on it so, I need something with a 30mm tube with enough elevation to get to 1000k. I will be taking the gun to some LE courses so, the scope has to be durable and repeatable. I am still on a budget so, if there a company with LE pricing that would help. I was leaning toward the SS or Vortex PST because those could be had for close to what I think I could get for my scope if I decide to sell.
Thanks
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

How far above center is your current scope? In other words if your current scope has 60 moa total elevation and you have 25 moa available after zeroing at 100 yards, then you can use that as a reference for the amount of travel required for a new scope. So using the above example, you take half of the total travel, subtract 5, and that is what is available. Of course this is an approximation. You also need to know how much elevation you require to get to 1000, probably between 35-40 moa from 100 yards.

Using the above example you will need a scope with about 90 moa total elevation. Half of 90=45, minus 5=40 moa. Your actual formula could be (will be) different.
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

Maybe look into a canted base and you would have several more options available.
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

I would stick with Leupold and either
1. Get new base
2. Shim current base. Two ways to do this. One with current available metal shims from a place like Brownells by them self or add shims and once perfect height is achived bed bas to receiver with Marine tex. This way perfect fit
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

1000k or 1,000,000 yards...whew, you sure you don't need a cruise missile for that kind of distance.
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Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

TLAM-E, when you really want to ruine someones day ! LOL! But I digress. I would agree with getting a 20 MOA base but if you only shooting to 1k every now an then do you really need it? Probably not! I love my SS. Are there better scopes out there? Yep, is my butt on the line if I don't have the best equipment money can buy? Nope. Ergo, SS, fits my requirements just fine. You can spend more, but do you really need to? Probably not!
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

Being LE you may get a discount on Promotive, if so you could stay with Leupold as Mike suggests and stay with the 6.5-20 Mk4 or even the 8.5-25 Mk4. I have one of the 6.5-20 M5 (Auto-locking) with the 34mm tube and it should have plenty of travel to get you to 1k with a zero MOA base. (Mine has 134Moa from top to bottom but advertised as 120). IF you get the discount it's hard to say no to these. (IMHO)
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

I have a pair of Sigthron SIII 6-24 and they both have just over 100MOA of adjustment with a 30mm body. They should get you where you want to be. If you think you need more, the fixed SIII have 150MOA advertised and mine is just under 160. The price is very good for the fixed as well.
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

1000k I am an idiot. My brain was fried when I was writing this am. As it stands I dialed 45 MOA into my scope without a problem so, it should get to 1000K! I would just prefer something with a bit more magnification. From an LE standpoint is an illuminated reticle a must?
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

Just my opinion, but I would be more concerned about too much magnification on the low end in an LE scope.
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

I thought about that a bit and would have to do some more close range shooting to decide. It looks like the SS is probably the best bet because I do not know if there will be enough elevation in the PST to get to 1k on a flat base. I'm thinking that the illuminated reticule is probably a good idea to have for any low light shooting but, correct me if I am wrong.
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

You have what is probably one of the best scopes for LE use ever and your changing it out instead of a simple base change?

You have all the scope you need for LE, having spent 25 years doing so.
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

I have that exact scope you have on my .50 and shoot to 1k with no problems. That magnification is enough. Is more better? Maybe but not if you still need some low end mag. I'm going for more mag on my .50 but I rarely shooting it less than 600yds. and don't need low end mag.
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

Save your scope and go spend 230$ at SWFA on an AADMOUNT ... 20 MOA and a nice little bubble level built right in there
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Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have what is probably one of the best scopes for LE use ever and your changing it out instead of a simple base change?

You have all the scope you need for LE, having spent 25 years doing so. </div></div>

+1

Buy a canted base.
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

Why do "LE" and "1000 yards" in the same thread seem strange to me? Is it that you want to double a LE sniper rifle as a long range match stick? Surely you don't plan to ever have to do any LE sniping at 1000 yards.
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

Its a dual purpose rifle because with the economy and the way my department is its easier to get what I need when I buy it myself rather then getting the knee pads on. The closest LE course near me is no where near 1k but, I am going to jump on other courses where I can take a poke out that far. As an LE an officer if I was 1k away I would get in my car and drive closer unless its a HAZMAT incident then I'm driving the other way. Anyway I am going to take the suggestions from the more experienced and keep the scope that I have. Thanks for your input everyone.
 
Re: Optic to get 308 to 1000k on 0 MOA base

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 10Xview</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why do "LE" and "1000 yards" in the same thread seem strange to me? Is it that you want to double a LE sniper rifle as a long range match stick? Surely you don't plan to ever have to do any LE sniping at 1000 yards. </div></div>

Brother it is a confidence builder. If you can hit at a 1000 yards, 100 yards seems like chip shot
 
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