Trying to decide on my next semi auto rifle and these are the three I'm bouncing between. I'm leaning toward the ACR. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
Just traded my FDE SCAR for a FDE SR15E3. If you're an AR guy don't get the scar. I own LWRC's and really like them. Run great suppressed and very clean. I sold the scar as it was too different from my training. Just my 2 cents but I'd stick to LWRC if your an AR trained person.
Just traded my FDE SCAR for a FDE SR15E3. If you're an AR guy don't get the scar. I own LWRC's and really like them. Run great suppressed and very clean. I sold the scar as it was too different from my training. Just my 2 cents but I'd stick to LWRC if your an AR trained person.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
Thank you for the input. I handled an ACR yesterday and loved the way it felt. I've owned alot of ARs but that being said I'm open to new things. The only thing that may keep me from the ACR is the weight. I keep reading that the SCAR weighs noticibly less.
Thank you for the input. I handled an ACR yesterday and loved the way it felt. I've owned alot of ARs but that being said I'm open to new things. The only thing that may keep me from the ACR is the weight. I keep reading that the SCAR weighs noticibly less.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
I have the ACR and SCAR and yes the one pound difference is noticeable. I do like the way the controls are laid out on the ACR better than Scar. For some reason when I put a suppressor on the 2 the ACR feels better balanced. If you should get the ACR make sure you order it with the tri rail already on it. Also if you get the ACR order a different break for it either PWS or battle comp 2.0. You also couldnt go wrong with the LWRC either. If the price is still the same around 2k MSRP you might want to think about this one. http://www.lwrci.com/p-290-m6-individual-carbine.aspx
I have the ACR and SCAR and yes the one pound difference is noticeable. I do like the way the controls are laid out on the ACR better than Scar. For some reason when I put a suppressor on the 2 the ACR feels better balanced. If you should get the ACR make sure you order it with the tri rail already on it. Also if you get the ACR order a different break for it either PWS or battle comp 2.0. You also couldnt go wrong with the LWRC either. If the price is still the same around 2k MSRP you might want to think about this one. http://www.lwrci.com/p-290-m6-individual-carbine.aspx
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
Right now the AR platform all together smacks the shit outta the ACR and SCAR on parts availability alone, and LWRC is one of the best in the AR world, so pick the M6 of your choice.
Right now the AR platform all together smacks the shit outta the ACR and SCAR on parts availability alone, and LWRC is one of the best in the AR world, so pick the M6 of your choice.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
LWRC are great people to deal with and they make some badass guns that are durable and shoot great!
LWRC are great people to deal with and they make some badass guns that are durable and shoot great!
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
I ended up with the acr after shooting both it and the scar. A good machinist should be able to make a ar barrel fit an acr. If i remember correctly its a notch cut for the op rod support and install the spacers and ratchet system. That being said my main 556 gun is still a lmt mrp cqb.
I ended up with the acr after shooting both it and the scar. A good machinist should be able to make a ar barrel fit an acr. If i remember correctly its a notch cut for the op rod support and install the spacers and ratchet system. That being said my main 556 gun is still a lmt mrp cqb.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
The ACR quality control is suspect. One might be accurate another one not so. Plus aftermarket gear for the AR alone makes it a worthwhile keep. Coming from California I don't expect significant changes in environment. My M4 should run fine. I've had my LWRC for at least a year now. Have not had a chance to shoot it. Good guns...cheap with ammo...man I suck.
The ACR quality control is suspect. One might be accurate another one not so. Plus aftermarket gear for the AR alone makes it a worthwhile keep. Coming from California I don't expect significant changes in environment. My M4 should run fine. I've had my LWRC for at least a year now. Have not had a chance to shoot it. Good guns...cheap with ammo...man I suck.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
Thanks guys for the helpful info!
Thanks guys for the helpful info!
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
i own a SCAR and i love it, and women like it too
i own a SCAR and i love it, and women like it too
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7.62gunr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In 7.62 a SCAR is the only option.
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How accurate is the SCAR in 7.62?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7.62gunr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In 7.62 a SCAR is the only option.
How accurate is the SCAR in 7.62?
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
Ha.. Love the LMT MRPs.. Running a 10.5 for my CQB... as for the 3 above I love the LWRC. My 7.62 is a REPR and I love the piston system, especially running suppressed. My LMT is way dirtier after a couple hundred rounds.... Personally I would go any LWRC Piston if you wanted a good gun to run hard. Congrats on the ACR. Post up a review soon.
Ha.. Love the LMT MRPs.. Running a 10.5 for my CQB... as for the 3 above I love the LWRC. My 7.62 is a REPR and I love the piston system, especially running suppressed. My LMT is way dirtier after a couple hundred rounds.... Personally I would go any LWRC Piston if you wanted a good gun to run hard. Congrats on the ACR. Post up a review soon.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
I've had an LWRC M6A2, M6A3, and now have a REPR. I'd easily recommend anything from LWRC.
If you go with an ACR, make sure it's a 1:7 as they were originally only available in 1:9 twist.
No direct experience with the Scar, but I'd trust FNH over Bushmaster personally.
I've had an LWRC M6A2, M6A3, and now have a REPR. I'd easily recommend anything from LWRC.
If you go with an ACR, make sure it's a 1:7 as they were originally only available in 1:9 twist.
No direct experience with the Scar, but I'd trust FNH over Bushmaster personally.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
I sold my ACR for a KAC SR15E3. I did really like the ACR for the ergonomics are the best of any rifle I have seen or shot to date. However it is noticablly nose heavy and needs a diet. The version 2 if it ever comes out is a pound and a half lighter. If they release the version 2 I will add it to my stable. I have also had a lot of hands on with both scars and I like the heavy quite a bit. But of the scar light and the ACR I would do the ACR. I did have trunion issues with the ACR and needed to send it in. Bush took care of it. It was a barrel alignment issue. I bore lasered it and was so off I could not align the sights. They fixed it but I also bought an early version. Now I believe they have worked out the issues.
A battlecomp would be a nice addition to the acr for that is what I put on my SR15 and absolutely swear by it. The scar light is well balanced and light. My KAC feels similar but shoots far better with the battlecomp than the scar. The scar has a slightly lighter recoil but more muzzle rise. As for the ACR it is built like a tank...stock is really solid and the gun feels a lot tougher. The scar iron sights are substantially better than the ACR Magpul MBUS which I absolutely hate. After shooting both I like my knight substantially better, trigger is nicer, iron sights are nicer, like the feel of the stock better, it is slightly quieter, balance is spot on.
If I were to get a piston AR I would strongly consider the LWRC M6IC. Weight, build, quality, material, etc are really good. About the same price as an ACR yet substantially lighter and much better quality. I would also consider the PWS MK114. Light, balanced, and ultra reliable piston system just like the LWRC (not the same type of piston system but both are the most reliable of their kind) LWRC has the best warranty of the pack as well. Balance and weight have become very important to me...piston ARs seem to be nose heavy and flat out heavier than their DI counterparts with the exception of the PWS and the M6IC. Holding an AR all day and running matches the weight difference and balance make a big difference and the is why weight and balance are a big factor for me.
I sold my ACR for a KAC SR15E3. I did really like the ACR for the ergonomics are the best of any rifle I have seen or shot to date. However it is noticablly nose heavy and needs a diet. The version 2 if it ever comes out is a pound and a half lighter. If they release the version 2 I will add it to my stable. I have also had a lot of hands on with both scars and I like the heavy quite a bit. But of the scar light and the ACR I would do the ACR. I did have trunion issues with the ACR and needed to send it in. Bush took care of it. It was a barrel alignment issue. I bore lasered it and was so off I could not align the sights. They fixed it but I also bought an early version. Now I believe they have worked out the issues.
A battlecomp would be a nice addition to the acr for that is what I put on my SR15 and absolutely swear by it. The scar light is well balanced and light. My KAC feels similar but shoots far better with the battlecomp than the scar. The scar has a slightly lighter recoil but more muzzle rise. As for the ACR it is built like a tank...stock is really solid and the gun feels a lot tougher. The scar iron sights are substantially better than the ACR Magpul MBUS which I absolutely hate. After shooting both I like my knight substantially better, trigger is nicer, iron sights are nicer, like the feel of the stock better, it is slightly quieter, balance is spot on.
If I were to get a piston AR I would strongly consider the LWRC M6IC. Weight, build, quality, material, etc are really good. About the same price as an ACR yet substantially lighter and much better quality. I would also consider the PWS MK114. Light, balanced, and ultra reliable piston system just like the LWRC (not the same type of piston system but both are the most reliable of their kind) LWRC has the best warranty of the pack as well. Balance and weight have become very important to me...piston ARs seem to be nose heavy and flat out heavier than their DI counterparts with the exception of the PWS and the M6IC. Holding an AR all day and running matches the weight difference and balance make a big difference and the is why weight and balance are a big factor for me.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
Oh and the SCAR Heavy. Is not a run and gun rifle in my opinion. The recoil and muzzle rise make it difficult for quick second shots. It is also much heavier when fully loaded and is more expensive to shoot. I do absolutely love it but the heavy is used for a different purpose in my opinion. It is a long range better knock down power rifle not a rapid fire quick less than 200 yards rifle. With that said I love it for anything past 100 yards...and 600 will put a grin on your face!
Oh and the SCAR Heavy. Is not a run and gun rifle in my opinion. The recoil and muzzle rise make it difficult for quick second shots. It is also much heavier when fully loaded and is more expensive to shoot. I do absolutely love it but the heavy is used for a different purpose in my opinion. It is a long range better knock down power rifle not a rapid fire quick less than 200 yards rifle. With that said I love it for anything past 100 yards...and 600 will put a grin on your face!
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
I love my LWRC. Mostly used it for short range w/ the Eotech but putting a scope on it next week for 400Y use.
I love my LWRC. Mostly used it for short range w/ the Eotech but putting a scope on it next week for 400Y use.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
I owned a LWRC M6A3 and couldn't shoot precise groups with it. On another forum - one gets bashed for questioning its accuracy. I had more than a few offline discourse about accuracy issues with discouraged owners. I was getting getting 5 to 7 MOA at 100 yds with many different factory quality ammo (55 to 62 grains). After switching to 69, 75, and 77 grain ammo, it tightened up - but only to 2-3 MOA best. Finally threw my Hensold 4-16 on a bench sandbag once and got 1.5 MOA a <span style="font-style: italic">few </span>times with 77 grain Black Hills. The pundits argued "it's the shooter". (I shoot sub-MOA with another 12.5" brand consistently, so you decide) Tried different ammo for one year, and finally decided I can't afford feeding it only Black Hills 77 grain ammo. (in the end, I tried 15 different ammo) It's not a criticism against their products, I still own and enjoy their 8" PSD in 6.8 SPC: it shoots 1.5 MOA consistently. The 14.7" 556 upper I had was heavier than DI AR's, so it was a bit unwieldy as well. In the end, I respect others that have accurate LWRC AR's, I simply didn't have that luck.
My experience with Scar 16,
Pros: funny looking design but feels great in the hands when shooting, PWS brake loud but minimizes recoil effectively making acquisition easy, side charging handle very efficient, accurate enough (1.5 to 2.0 MOA @ 100 consistently) but <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> highly ammo sensitive, folding stock a good design.
Cons: parts have poor availability, had to modify my large collection of PMAG's, heavy (but still handles well), hand hits any mount levers that protrude on same side such as QD lever(reversing to other side solves it), few plastic parts are cheap and break (ie. stock release button), and trigger heavy/gritty and just plain sucks (Geissele Scar trigger costs the same as a used Glock).
No experience with ACR.
Hope that helps, good luck.
I owned a LWRC M6A3 and couldn't shoot precise groups with it. On another forum - one gets bashed for questioning its accuracy. I had more than a few offline discourse about accuracy issues with discouraged owners. I was getting getting 5 to 7 MOA at 100 yds with many different factory quality ammo (55 to 62 grains). After switching to 69, 75, and 77 grain ammo, it tightened up - but only to 2-3 MOA best. Finally threw my Hensold 4-16 on a bench sandbag once and got 1.5 MOA a <span style="font-style: italic">few </span>times with 77 grain Black Hills. The pundits argued "it's the shooter". (I shoot sub-MOA with another 12.5" brand consistently, so you decide) Tried different ammo for one year, and finally decided I can't afford feeding it only Black Hills 77 grain ammo. (in the end, I tried 15 different ammo) It's not a criticism against their products, I still own and enjoy their 8" PSD in 6.8 SPC: it shoots 1.5 MOA consistently. The 14.7" 556 upper I had was heavier than DI AR's, so it was a bit unwieldy as well. In the end, I respect others that have accurate LWRC AR's, I simply didn't have that luck.
My experience with Scar 16,
Pros: funny looking design but feels great in the hands when shooting, PWS brake loud but minimizes recoil effectively making acquisition easy, side charging handle very efficient, accurate enough (1.5 to 2.0 MOA @ 100 consistently) but <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> highly ammo sensitive, folding stock a good design.
Cons: parts have poor availability, had to modify my large collection of PMAG's, heavy (but still handles well), hand hits any mount levers that protrude on same side such as QD lever(reversing to other side solves it), few plastic parts are cheap and break (ie. stock release button), and trigger heavy/gritty and just plain sucks (Geissele Scar trigger costs the same as a used Glock).
No experience with ACR.
Hope that helps, good luck.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Proud Noob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LWRC is good to go. </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Proud Noob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LWRC is good to go. </div></div>
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Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: soapboxpreacher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh and the SCAR Heavy. Is not a run and gun rifle in my opinion. The recoil and muzzle rise make it difficult for quick second shots. It is also much heavier when fully loaded and is more expensive to shoot. I do absolutely love it but the heavy is used for a different purpose in my opinion. It is a long range better knock down power rifle not a rapid fire quick less than 200 yards rifle. With that said I love it for anything past 100 yards...and 600 will put a grin on your face! </div></div>
Sounds like somebody who doesn't own one. I have shot every MBR and the SCAR is beyond any of them.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: soapboxpreacher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh and the SCAR Heavy. Is not a run and gun rifle in my opinion. The recoil and muzzle rise make it difficult for quick second shots. It is also much heavier when fully loaded and is more expensive to shoot. I do absolutely love it but the heavy is used for a different purpose in my opinion. It is a long range better knock down power rifle not a rapid fire quick less than 200 yards rifle. With that said I love it for anything past 100 yards...and 600 will put a grin on your face! </div></div>
Sounds like somebody who doesn't own one. I have shot every MBR and the SCAR is beyond any of them.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
Had a SCAR and sold it after running around 2k rounds through it. The recoil although less, seems to bump up into your face for every shot. The charging handle has got caught on slings and gear a few times before. I tried to like it but it just didn't happen.
Had a SCAR and sold it after running around 2k rounds through it. The recoil although less, seems to bump up into your face for every shot. The charging handle has got caught on slings and gear a few times before. I tried to like it but it just didn't happen.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
I have the LWRC SPR and love it.
I have the LWRC SPR and love it.
Re: Anyone have experience with LWRC, ACRs, or SCARs?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LWRC...Larue.... Noveske..... Can't go wrong.... Pick your poison. </div></div>
Amen... Preach it son!
A good quality AR is a good quality AR... Just pick which one has the bells and whistles ou like best...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LWRC...Larue.... Noveske..... Can't go wrong.... Pick your poison. </div></div>
Amen... Preach it son!
A good quality AR is a good quality AR... Just pick which one has the bells and whistles ou like best...
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