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Bank of America to McMillan, we don't want you

Re: Bank of America to McMillan, we don't want you

Maybe it is politically motivated....but I bet the US Treasury or IRS don't say no to any tax revenue they get from the sale of firearms/weapons of any sort, issuing of paperwork/licences etc. or any of the other ways they squuze the money out of your pocket on anything to do with shooting sports?
 
Re: Bank of America to McMillan, we don't want you

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Redmanss</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just called and canceled my BOA visa. When asked why I told them that their anti firearm stance in business is why and sited McMillan specifically.</div></div> Good on you Rob. Almost makes me wish I had a BofA account to do the same, but USAA and Navy Fed are too damn good to me.</div></div>

I had only gotten the card in 2001 when we bought the house and got a good rate. I haven't used it since about 2003. I have been with Navy Fed since 1987 so I agree they are awesome. Do everything through them.

I shared the McMillan post on my facebook page as well as our Team page. Everyone else should do the same. Get the word out.
 
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I did not want to post this in my original response because I did not want to detract from the McMillan family's post, but two days before this was even posted, my wife and I signed the docs to re-finance our home. It was not due to a better rate (it was already great), the sole purpose was because that pole smoking piece of shit, heretofore known as BofUnA, bought our original mortgage loan from the company we started out with. It was a principle issue alone, nothing more.

I told you folks, my family and I hate that fucking place. Hopefully that demonstrates it enough! Now, if they buy this one out, I may stroke out, but I'll just do it again in another two years.
 
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A couple of months ago, I closed all of my BOA accounts and moved them over to USAA. When I was closing out my BOA account, of course the teller asked my why I was closing my accounts after 8 years with the bank. I told that I found thier business practices shady and I didn't want to have any association with thier bank any more. I haven't looked back. That bank sucks balls. Plus USAA can use ANY ATM in the U.S. with out any fees.
 
Re: Bank of America to McMillan, we don't want you

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shotgun4fur</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: halcyon575</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just applied for a cabela's card to replace my BoA bass pro. I know Cabela's isn't the best replacement but since my local Bass Pro Shops have ridiculous gun/reloading restrictions (they're anti-50BMG), now charge TAX on online orders, and now BoA is anti gun, I can't wait for my Cabela's card to come in so I can tell them to shove it! </div></div>

Cabelas charges tax for online orders aswell, if they have a store in your state. </div></div>

Well there's none in GA so I'm good to go! Realistically I'm not going to be buying much outside of rewards (particularly 50BMG stuff), but I like their approach to shooting sports in general.

The last Bass Pro I went in didn't have any 168gr SMKs or 55gr V-maxes. When I asked if they had any in back or on order, they said Bass Pro doesn't carry non-hunting related reloading components! I was left speechless as I walked away. What the F*&$ is the "V" for in V-max?!! I was under the impression it was for "varmint".
 
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Well..... that was kind of like BofA cutting off their nose to spite their face. Politically motivated or not that was more than kind of stupid of the bank in these hard to make money times. Maybe it wasn't as much $$$ in interest the bank was making off of McMillan compaired to other companies they give credit lines to. Regardless of the case, McMillan is better off to find another bank. Hopefully McMillan can find a local bank to back thier game. We closed all our accounts with national banks many years ago and opened accounts with several local banks. It took a bit, but eventually I was able to find one local bank that could back our play with business credit lines, loans, etc... With the local bank we mostly use now, it has a much better rating when it comes to backing our deposits than any of the national banks such as Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Chase, etc...
 
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The wife just called and closed her Bass Pro credit card account after I told her about this. Has Bass Pro been getting any shit over this? I for one won't shop with them any longer if they continue to do business with BofA...
 
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Has there been any kind of statement or news from BofA or any news agencies?
 
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Glad I left BoA years ago. They charged fees on tops of fees. They tried to charge me a fee for going into their branch offices too much because of the type of account I had. They also charged fees for taking my own money out. That was just too much. Fck them.
 
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20 April 2012


Bank of America Corporate Center
100 North Tryon Street
Charlotte, North Carolina 28255

RE: Closure of Accounts


Bank of America,

My name is David Hornsby. I live in the Dallas/Fort Area of North Texas and have had accounts with B of A since you have been in Texas.

I am writing to you today to let you know that I will no longer do business with your company. I am outraged at the way McMillan Group International was treated by your bank through Ray Fox, Senior VP, Market Manager for B of A. I cannot believe that B of A does not want the business of the firearm industry.

The Second Amendment was set in place by our Founding Fathers for a very important reason…so our government could not take away the freedoms of its citizenry.

Be sure and thank an America Soldier for your freedoms to run and operate your business here…be sure and thank a family who has lost a son or daughter in the line of duty so that you can choose to do business with whom you please.

I have emailed everyone I know addressing how B of A feels about the firearm industry. Also, I have communicated to the local Chamber of Commerce how B of A feels concerning this issue. I will encourage local business owners and those I know who run corporations and industries here in North Texas not to accept payment by any form from B of A (check, check card or credit).



Grateful for the freedoms I have because of The Second Amendment,



David Hornsby
 
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In 4 hrs I will be closing on pulling a mortgage from BoA.
 
Re: Bank of America to McMillan, we don't want you

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ranger Bob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's a great article about BofA in the new Rolling Stone. I read it at the newsstand because I would never buy Rolling Stone but the article caught my attention. I have some insider information so I know it's not all exactly accurate but it is pretty close. Worth a read if you need a reminder how fucked up our government is. </div></div>

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/bank-of-america-too-crooked-to-fail-20120314
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Redmanss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For anyone wanting a direct link to McMillan's FB post to share it, here it is:

http://www.facebook.com/McMillanGroupInternational/posts/10150946905673368

And we'll see if BofA leaves this one up there:

http://www.facebook.com/BankofAmerica/posts/349799558411648?ref=notif&notif_t=like </div></div>

Their FB page is filled with unhappy customers, hundreds of negative posts And only a handful of posts giving BoA praise. Says a lot about there business ethic.
 
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We've been with BofAfor 15+ years. So here is my question. Has anyone found a bank that is small business friendly and supportive AND is gun friendly?

Who would you recommend gain what BofA doesn't care to keep?

Susan
 
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Our family is going to a local credit union that does online banking. All BofA accounts are being closed!
 
Just applied for an NRA VISA

I just applied (online) for an NRA VISA card. The online application page is http://www.nraaccounts.com/nra/. The process ended noting 2-4 weeks to receive notice of acceptance by mail. The only question now is whether to shred the BofA card now or wait until I get the NRA card.

BTW, BEFORE I applied for the NRA card, I confirmed with the bank that handles the NRA card – First National Bank of Omaha – that they are neither owned by nor in any way affiliated with BofA.
 
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I cancelled my credit card with them today. Their customer sevice person I spoke with was very polite even after I informed her that the reason I was closing my account was due to Bank of America's lack of respect/support for my 2nd amendment rights. She told me that she noted my file verbatim with my reason for no longer doing business with them.
 
Re: Just applied for an NRA VISA

I just called my BOA branch and set up an appointment for Monday morning at 9am to close all of my business/personal accounts and cc cards.
 
Re: Bank of America to McMillan, we don't want you

Well said Sir.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: D3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">20 April 2012


Bank of America Corporate Center
100 North Tryon Street
Charlotte, North Carolina 28255

RE: Closure of Accounts


Bank of America,

My name is David Hornsby. I live in the Dallas/Fort Area of North Texas and have had accounts with B of A since you have been in Texas.

I am writing to you today to let you know that I will no longer do business with your company. I am outraged at the way McMillan Group International was treated by your bank through Ray Fox, Senior VP, Market Manager for B of A. I cannot believe that B of A does not want the business of the firearm industry.

The Second Amendment was set in place by our Founding Fathers for a very important reason…so our government could not take away the freedoms of its citizenry.

Be sure and thank an America Soldier for your freedoms to run and operate your business here…be sure and thank a family who has lost a son or daughter in the line of duty so that you can choose to do business with whom you please.

I have emailed everyone I know addressing how B of A feels about the firearm industry. Also, I have communicated to the local Chamber of Commerce how B of A feels concerning this issue. I will encourage local business owners and those I know who run corporations and industries here in North Texas not to accept payment by any form from B of A (check, check card or credit).



Grateful for the freedoms I have because of The Second Amendment,



David Hornsby




</div></div>
 
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Susan, we changed everything over to Frost Bank. Very friendly, very helpful, Texas owned and operated. The manager we talked to was pro-gun.

Hope that helps!
 
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Susan,
We switched to Frost Bank...Texas owned and operated.
The manager we talked to was pro-gun, pro 2nd Amendment.

Hope that helps!
 
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Thanks NMMX
 
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I dont use BoA but Im very happy to see people not shrugging this off and instead taking action to let them know this will not stand.

Well done to all who have taken steps. More need to follow.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: D3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">20 April 2012


Bank of America Corporate Center
100 North Tryon Street
Charlotte, North Carolina 28255

RE: Closure of Accounts


Bank of America,

My name is David Hornsby. I live in the Dallas/Fort Area of North Texas and have had accounts with B of A since you have been in Texas.

I am writing to you today to let you know that I will no longer do business with your company. I am outraged at the way McMillan Group International was treated by your bank through Ray Fox, Senior VP, Market Manager for B of A. I cannot believe that B of A does not want the business of the firearm industry.

The Second Amendment was set in place by our Founding Fathers for a very important reason…so our government could not take away the freedoms of its citizenry.

Be sure and thank an America Soldier for your freedoms to run and operate your business here…be sure and thank a family who has lost a son or daughter in the line of duty so that you can choose to do business with whom you please.

I have emailed everyone I know addressing how B of A feels about the firearm industry. Also, I have communicated to the local Chamber of Commerce how B of A feels concerning this issue. I will encourage local business owners and those I know who run corporations and industries here in North Texas not to accept payment by any form from B of A (check, check card or credit).



Grateful for the freedoms I have because of The Second Amendment,



David Hornsby




</div></div>

Nice letter David.

Letters are influential, even in politics. Spoke with a senator and found it shocking how few letters they actually receive on important pieces of legislation, few enough they actually have time to read them, often less than 10. Since then I take time to write.
 
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Not to be a pain the ass, but I thought this was common knowledge.

Bank of America has been Anti-Gun since the present administration took office.

No offense to any present company, but I thought this was something everyone knew.
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Citibank is owned by Cerberus, who also owns the Freedom Group. I could be wrong, but there's something about that company that just isn't right. Again, I could be completely wrong about them, but I just get a "wolf in sheep's clothing" feel about the entire structure of that company!

The only bank that I know of that is free of political ties is US Bancorp a.k.a. US Bank. They do not have any private holdings companies, that I know of.

 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RoosterShooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not to be a pain the ass, but I thought this was common knowledge.

Bank of America has been Anti-Gun since the present administration took office.

No offense to any present company, but I thought this was something everyone knew.
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Citibank is owned by Cerberus, who also owns the Freedom Group. I could be wrong, but there's something about that company that just isn't right. Again, I could be completely wrong about them, but I just get a "wolf in sheep's clothing" feel about the entire structure of that company!

The only bank that I know of that is free of political ties is US Bancorp a.k.a. US Bank. They do not have any private holdings companies, that I know of.

</div></div>

Yeah.. well with Nardelli at the helm, it is only time before he screws Freedom up..
 
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I know a lot of the mid-level mgt at BofA at Tryon. Sheep... all of them Sheep. Looks like they could double for a Sears ad or a Coca-Cola Promotion.

Have no clue of what they are working for. I have shedded my corporate bonds (next week...) and no more will I put them on.

All companies are becoming more and more like this.. they snuggle up to the throne (Duke Energy, GE, etc...) and they become defacto executive branches without laws.. they have "policies".
 
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When I saw this post and read BofA attitude toward mcmillan I was set back. I pulled out my platinum bass pro card I use all the time to get reward points to buy all kinds of sporting goods including ammo, reloading components etc. Kind of ironic. And to think I have a stock on order with them and a card on file to pay for it! Guess what card! Guess I better check on the stock and how to pay for it now!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c-3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wish i had an account with them so i could close it </div></div>

I told my wife about this and those were almost her exact words.
 
Re: Bank of America to McMillan, we don't want you

Chase had an internal leak that went public a few months ago that said that they were going to try to dissuade people with less than $100,000 from starting or keeping accounts at Chase because they make no money off them and actually lose money on most of them. It was all over Consumerist.com and I would suspect that BOA has the same problem so maybe we should all go <span style="text-decoration: underline">start</span> accounts at BOA.

Here's the skinny:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Todd Maclin, the bank's chief executive officer of consumer and business banking said that <span style="color: #6600CC"><span style="font-weight: bold">70% of customers with deposits below that $100K line are not profitable for the bank</span></span> after new regulations put a cap on lenders' fees.

Thus, Chase intends to focus on making nice with the wealthy customers.</div></div>

http://consumerist.com/2012/02/chase-pla...n-the-bank.html
 
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I rejoiced when I closed all my BoA accounts in early 2008 and transferred them to Fifth Third.
 
Re: Bank of America to McMillan, we don't want you

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Chase had an internal leak that went public a few months ago that said that they were going to try to dissuade people with less than $250,000 from starting or keeping accounts at Chase because they make no money off them and actually lose money on most of them. It was all over Consumerist.com and I would suspect that BOA has the same problem so maybe we should all go <span style="text-decoration: underline">start</span> accounts at BOA. </div></div>

Genius. We all get cards, buy one coke a month to keep them active. Pay it off each month and don't roll over any balance. Make them send paper bills and everything. Hell, if we want to go crazy we can dispute every item on every bill they send!

I feel like a corporate terrorist! Mwuahahahahahahahahaha!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c-3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wish i had an account with them so i could close it </div></div>

I told my wife about this and those were almost her exact words. </div></div>

yup..yup

Did post link on FB. It reaches a lot of people...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: halcyon575</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Chase had an internal leak that went public a few months ago that said that they were going to try to dissuade people with less than $250,000 from starting or keeping accounts at Chase because they make no money off them and actually lose money on most of them. It was all over Consumerist.com and I would suspect that BOA has the same problem so maybe we should all go <span style="text-decoration: underline">start</span> accounts at BOA. </div></div>

Genius. We all get cards, buy one coke a month to keep them active. Pay it off each month and don't roll over any balance. Make them send paper bills and everything. Hell, if we want to go crazy we can dispute every item on every bill they send!

I feel like a corporate terrorist! Mwuahahahahahahahahaha! </div></div>

That's the spirit!
 
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Wish I had one of their cards so I could cancell it, wrote McMillian and told them if I were a bank I would be proud to serve them. If all 80,000,000 gun owners stood together we could rule the world.
 
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Just saw this on Fox News - glad it's getting more coverage.

I'll be moving all my personal and business accounts out of there this summer. It may not be much, but it will be a million dollars worth of cash flow their sorry asses will not have access to.


Nice Letter D3...!
 
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BofA can suck it! I moved to USAA a while ago for all my banking needs, CC's, Loans and Insurance. I also use a small local bank for quick cash needs.

Glad to see this hitting the news channels.
 
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I closed both my accounts with BofA a few years back right before the 2008 overseas conribution fiasco.

I'm surprised 2A businesses & gun owners still have accounts with them.

It will take a couple more publicized incidents like this one to get people to act.

I'd love it if all our Hide vendors stated they had stopped doing business with BofA.
 
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+1 for USAA and Navy Federal

I've handled all my banking and insurance with USAA for years and have zero complaints.

Late last year an old friend passed, and in my screwy state of mind I overdrafted my checking account about a dozen times. When I explained the situation to USAA, they refunded the overdraft charges...every last one. They told me to take as long as I needed to get the account out of the red. What other bank does this?

Another time I was double-charged for a handgun, and as soon as I told the rep it was a Sig, the conversation turned into a half-hour long discussion on Sig pistols.

As for BofA, I've always made it a point to steer clear of them, but will definitely remember this. McMillan and BofA are really about as different as a company can get.
 
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i too got rid of them ages ago, as their fees seemed to grow exponentially , like someone else said, even after i closed my account, they continued to charge me late fees, overdraft fees, etc. I bank with m&t now, but don`t see any bank as being that much better than the next
 
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My wife scheduled to pay off our balance on our BoA Visa this past week. I have never had any trouble with them and always had good rates. Because of this I was toying with keeping this card active for online purchases and such...guess what. As of this second the wife has been given instructions that when the balance is cleared to cancel the card post haste. They will also be told in great detail why we are cancelling our card and will ever strive in the furure to avoid any commerce with their company.