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Benchmark Barrels Rifles Show Em!!!!

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I don't know why this hasn't started already or if it has I missed it. Lets see them.
here are some....

My 338 lapua
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375 cheytac
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my buddy's 300 win mag
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300 weatherby mag
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i'm in the desert running a course right now so yep, hot as fuck and dry as shit.
 
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I cant find a picture of my first Benchmark .308win. Here is my second, and third, and fourth, etc...

6.5x284

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7x300wsm

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DTA 6.5x284 Benchmark, the scope was a loner while waiting for USO

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6.5 WSM

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yeah i'm pretty damn happy with my mauser, i was less then happy with MPI who made teh stock, that was the only real hiccup
 
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7wsm with Benchmark Barrel
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Son's 223 F-class rifle with Benchmark barrel
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Mauser in 308 win By Benchmark
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Benchmark 260 and 6.5x47 Lapua
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Ron's Carbon Wraped Benchmark 7wsm
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I'll post more later...
 
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I run Benchmark barrels exclusively, if only I could figure out how to post pics.
 
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I had them rechamber a 338LM for me! They totally fubar'd it up and in the end suggested selling it off to Cabela's or pay them to rebarrel it. They told me that the problem was that they had rechambered it using a 338 Lapua reamer intended for a Semi-Auto! (WTF!?) Eventually I headed down there with my brother to try to sort things out and it got pretty confrontational; I could hear them ridiculing us in the back room.

 
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I have known Ron for years now. He is very detail oriented and practically obsesses over making sure the quality control is top knotch before anything leaves the shop. I have seen him over the years steadily work to improve the level of precision they put out including designing and building their own drilling machines to bore straighter barrels, new chuck designes, methods of chambering, etc. On top of all of that he is one of the nicest and most generous guys i know and when something does come back to the shop he takes it seriously, he also seems to take it personnally and gets frustrated that it left wrong in the first place, its rare but it happens, and he does his best to make it right. I have had alot of Benchmarks, ALOT. I have NEVER had one not shoot!

So i don't believe you. Back on track....a 308win they did

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I've heard alot of good things about Benchmark. I've been wanting to try one of their barrels. On the last 6.5x47 I had built, I called them about a barrel. They didn't have one on the shelf, and me being impatient like always I found a Krieger instead. Ive got two builds in mind I'd like to do in the next few months, a long action .284 and a short action 6xc. I'm hoping to use Benchmark barrels on both of them.
 
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Thanks for writing this off as "not believing me" but I'd encourage either of you to ask Ron about it next time you see him. I had a 700P MLR with a burr in the chamber from Remington; I brought it to Benchmark to see if they could set back the barrel, to clean up the chamber. I was informed they would use a PT&G 338 "Match" reamer. They also trued the action at the same time. After receiving the gun back from them I had brass that would not extract after 1 or 2 firing using the same loads I was before. This was with the exact same powder, bullets, and primers (but new Lapua brass) so I started reworking my load. With a 300SMK I began at 85gr of Retumbo and worked my way up; on virgin brass all of the loads (up to 94gr) extracted fine. On the second firing I had issues and had difficult extraction at 87gr and up, but with no other pressure signs (primer flow, cratering, etc). I bought a Redding FL die (I had been using a Forster) and the symptoms remained the same. At this point I became a little more suspect of the gun and brought it to Benchmark along with some cases and new ammo to see if they could sort it out. After talking to Chris he said they'd be around on Friday afternoon(I live in B'ham so I can only make it down in the evening after work). I showed up Friday and nobody was around; eventually Ron's mother came out of the house and she took the rifle and said she'd bring it to their shop next time they were around. That week Chris called me and said that I was not trimming my brass enough; I told him I was trimming to the manuals spec but that I'd give it a shot. Sure enough, my brass was in spec and trimming it another .030" did nothing (still difficult to extract). At this point I bought a Mitutoyo blade micrometer to measure casehead expansion and measured the case bulging approx. .008" at the base.I called them up and asked what my options were, this is when they informed me of the "Semi-Auto" 338 reamer they used and how it was Dave Kiff's fault for supplying a faulty reamer. I asked what my options were and they said I could rebarrel the gun for $550 but that would be with a bare stainless blank (no coating) and not threaded for the brake. I decided to drive down again at this point to talk to them about it. My brother and I showed up and started talking to one of their helpers, he eventually went into the back room and got Ron who seemed evasive and was trying to put the blame on a faulty reamer. He also kept commenting that "They never should've taken this job on". Ron went into the back and Chris came out, we explained what was going on for the third time and nobody wanted to help. They asked me what would make me happy and I said I'd be willing to cover the cost of a barrel blank if they'd chamber it on their dime. They turned this down and said that if they were rebarreling the gun they were making it more valuable and couldn't give their work away. They said the cheapest they could rebarrel was $550 ($300 for the blank, $250 to chamber, plus I think it was another $100/125 to thread the muzzle for my brake) and that was that. Then Chris commented "Why don't you just sell the thing to Cabela's and buy something else?".

I'm not a liar, nor am I a "tool". If I still had the gun I'd be more than happy to let you shoot it and see for yourself! Like I said, ask Ron about it. I'm sure he'll say they can't be liable for replacing an entire barrel when all they did was set it back but the fact is I brought them an operational rifle and they gave me back something that destroys brass cases. In my opinion they dropped the ball by using a bad reamer and as a professional shop that is their screw up, not mine. It did shoot right around 3/4 MOA so I will give them that, but I'm not rich enough to throw my 338 brass away!

Feel free to PM me if you've got any unanswered questions, but nobody's perfect and it just didn't work out for me and Benchmark.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a-hull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't care what your problem is with them. You figure it out. The title of this thread is show your benchmark rifles. Not a thread to complain about benchmark barrels. It is off topic. So stop being a tool and delete your posts from this thread, and start one of your own, where you can make all the claims you want about whoever you want. </div></div>

Didn't mean to offend you, I'd appreciate if you quit calling me a tool.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a-hull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't care what your problem is with them. You figure it out. The title of this thread is show your benchmark rifles. Not a thread to complain about benchmark barrels. It is off topic. So stop being a tool and delete your posts from this thread, and start one of your own, where you can make all the claims you want about whoever you want. </div></div>

I'd like to know if you are a representative for Benchmark, I see them in your signature, this makes me think there is some affiliation.

Would you please clear this up for me?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for writing this off as "not believing me" but I'd encourage either of you to ask Ron about it next time you see him. I had a 700P MLR with a burr in the chamber from Remington; I brought it to Benchmark to see if they could set back the barrel, to clean up the chamber. I was informed they would use a PT&G 338 "Match" reamer. They also trued the action at the same time. After receiving the gun back from them I had brass that would not extract after 1 or 2 firing using the same loads I was before. This was with the exact same powder, bullets, and primers (but new Lapua brass) so I started reworking my load. With a 300SMK I began at 85gr of Retumbo and worked my way up; on virgin brass all of the loads (up to 94gr) extracted fine. On the second firing I had issues and had difficult extraction at 87gr and up, but with no other pressure signs (primer flow, cratering, etc). I bought a Redding FL die (I had been using a Forster) and the symptoms remained the same. At this point I became a little more suspect of the gun and brought it to Benchmark along with some cases and new ammo to see if they could sort it out. After talking to Chris he said they'd be around on Friday afternoon(I live in B'ham so I can only make it down in the evening after work). I showed up Friday and nobody was around; eventually Ron's mother came out of the house and she took the rifle and said she'd bring it to their shop next time they were around. That week Chris called me and said that I was not trimming my brass enough; I told him I was trimming to the manuals spec but that I'd give it a shot. Sure enough, my brass was in spec and trimming it another .030" did nothing (still difficult to extract). At this point I bought a Mitutoyo blade micrometer to measure casehead expansion and measured the case bulging approx. .008" at the base.I called them up and asked what my options were, this is when they informed me of the "Semi-Auto" 338 reamer they used and how it was Dave Kiff's fault for supplying a faulty reamer. I asked what my options were and they said I could rebarrel the gun for $550 but that would be with a bare stainless blank (no coating) and not threaded for the brake. I decided to drive down again at this point to talk to them about it. My brother and I showed up and started talking to one of their helpers, he eventually went into the back room and got Ron who seemed evasive and was trying to put the blame on a faulty reamer. He also kept commenting that "They never should've taken this job on". Ron went into the back and Chris came out, we explained what was going on for the third time and nobody wanted to help. They asked me what would make me happy and I said I'd be willing to cover the cost of a barrel blank if they'd chamber it on their dime. They turned this down and said that if they were rebarreling the gun they were making it more valuable and couldn't give their work away. They said the cheapest they could rebarrel was $550 ($300 for the blank, $250 to chamber, plus I think it was another $100/125 to thread the muzzle for my brake) and that was that. Then Chris commented "Why don't you just sell the thing to Cabela's and buy something else?".

I'm not a liar, nor am I a "tool". If I still had the gun I'd be more than happy to let you shoot it and see for yourself! Like I said, ask Ron about it. I'm sure he'll say they can't be liable for replacing an entire barrel when all they did was set it back but the fact is I brought them an operational rifle and they gave me back something that destroys brass cases. In my opinion they dropped the ball by using a bad reamer and as a professional shop that is their screw up, not mine. It did shoot right around 3/4 MOA so I will give them that, but I'm not rich enough to throw my 338 brass away!

Feel free to PM me if you've got any unanswered questions, but nobody's perfect and it just didn't work out for me and Benchmark. </div></div>

There is always more than one side to every story...however this is not the thread to discuss it in and that was what the OP was trying to relate. Go start your own thread about your problems with Benchmark if you want, this thread is for posting pictures of their rifles not your personnal problems.
 
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Wow.. well back on track!!

204 Ruger
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.223 Rem
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308 Win
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338 Edge
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6AI (left) 6.5-284 (right)
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Did not mean to ruffle so many feathers. If anyone has additional questions feel free to PM me. I am not bad mouthing or attacking Benchmark, just explaining my experience with them (which did not end well).

Here's a picture of my rifle, that Benchmark worked on!

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From a spectator only I certainly don't see him as being an annoying person. Off topic, no. He seems to well versed in the art of handloading and what makes a stick shoot. He was merely pointing out his problems with Benchmark barrels. Personally, I think he handled it very well for I would have probably have gotten locked up if they had told me to sell my gun to Cabelas. Sorry for the semi-rant but there you go, now carry on.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a-hull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So stop being <span style="color: #CC0000">an annoying person </span>and delete your posts from this thread, and start one of your own, where you can make all the claims you want about whoever you want. </div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a-hull</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Duck Diggler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From a spectator only I certainly don't see him as being an annoying person. Off topic, no. He seems to well versed in the art of handloading and what makes a stick shoot. He was merely pointing out his problems with Benchmark barrels. Personally, I think he handled it very well for I would have probably have gotten locked up if they had told me to sell my gun to Cabelas. Sorry for the semi-rant but there you go, now carry on.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a-hull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So stop being <span style="color: #CC0000">an annoying person </span>and delete your posts from this thread, and start one of your own, where you can make all the claims you want about whoever you want. </div></div> </div></div>

Benchmark suggested since he had a problem with the chamber, he should return his gun to where he bought it before they worked on it. This guy insisted benchmark fix it.
Benchmark also loaded and shot it and it operated fine. Which tells me this guy is not well versed in reloading.
I have had two 338 lapuas from benchmark, 5 different 308s, 7wsm, A 6.5x47, and a 300 win mag. Never one single problem with a chamber. I am not saying benchmark can't make mistakes, people do. But from all of my past dealings I think this guy is twisting the story. I think he doesn't know as much about reloading as he thinks. I think he was trying to get a free barrel.
I think he is annoying for posting this here, because it is off topic, instead of starting his own thread where it could be discussed in more detail. Now people need to read all of this rather than look at rifle pictures.

And that's the other problem, you read it and said you would get locked up if it happened to you. You are believing what this guy says automatically, you don't think it is possible he isn't relaying the facts accurately? It is a one sided story that makes no sense at all based on benchmarks track record.
If you believe everything you read on a forum then.....i am an astronaut and i walked on the moon.
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So you talked to Ron and the conclusion was that I didn't know how to reload? I had 300 SMK's loaded for a .020" jump to the lands, with a Fed 215M primer, and Retumbo loads between 85 and 94 grains (loaded on a digital scale, double checked with an RCBS 10-10). I bumped shoulders approx .002" (measuring headspace with a LE Wilson headspace gauge) using a Forster FL die with Redding competition shellholders. I was seating my bullets with another Forster die. In addition to Retumbo I also tried 4831SC with 250gr Scenars. To call my reloading practices shoddy is a bit of a stretch, I load for many other calibers and did not have this issue.

When Benchmark tested my gun with their ammo it worked because they did not perform multiple firings on the same brass. If you read my post carefully you'll see that with the oversized chamber the brass function perfectly fine the first (and sometimes the second) firing. After that, the case head had expanded to the point where it became difficult to chamber and very difficult to extract. The bolt would swing up until it hit the primary extraction cam, at which point you had to "pop" it loose using excessive force to get the case out.

I brought my fired brass to Benchmark, if they had truly believed it was bad reloading practices they should've attempted to explain what I could have possibly done differently. After using my Forster FL die I ordered a Redding FL die just to see if the Forster die was at fault (and this was after sending the Forster die back to Forster to be inspected; they said it was fine). The Redding die had the exact same symptoms as the Forster die.

I'm not bitter about this (any more) and have nothing to gain by explaining what happened. I completely understand why Benchmark refused to fix my gun; they could not swing it financially. I paid them $150 to set back the barrel, and $200 to true the action (these are off the top of my head as I never had a receipt and this was a little over a year ago). They ended up making a $700 mistake (approx. cost to replace the barrel). Obviously, they cannot stay in business if they cause more damage than what they initially charged, but as a professional industry I feel they should have taken care of it. This is similar to getting your oil changed, and the dealership forgetting to install a filter. When your engine is destroyed does the dealership owe you one free oil change or an entirely new engine? I would argue they need to replace the engine and I think most people would agree.

When things were going good with Benchmark they were great (and friendly). As soon as thing took a bad turn the mood changed drastically, and they got incredibly defensive. I've attempted to explain this as fairly and accurately as possible. If anyone has any questions feel free to PM me.

PS- I would encourage you to ask Ron about his "Semi-Auto" 338 reamer. I think that alone sums this entire thing up.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Duck Diggler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From a spectator only I certainly don't see him as being an annoying person. Off topic, no. He seems to well versed in the art of handloading and what makes a stick shoot. He was merely pointing out his problems with Benchmark barrels. Personally, I think he handled it very well for I would have probably have gotten locked up if they had told me to sell my gun to Cabelas. Sorry for the semi-rant but there you go, now carry on.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a-hull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So stop being <span style="color: #CC0000">an annoying person </span>and delete your posts from this thread, and start one of your own, where you can make all the claims you want about whoever you want. </div></div> </div></div>

You and 71firebird400 both need to learn to read. 71firefird400 fucked up and came into a thread asking people to show off their benchmark rifles and took a large shit for no reason that had nothing to do with the thread other than the name of the company. The OP had every right to be annoyed and tell him to delete his shit and go elsewhere. He didn't ask "What's your opinion" or "Do you like your Benchmark?"... He asked to show them off. So the smart thing to do would be either put up a fucking photo or troll elsewhere. And his ability to load, shoot, or weave fucking baskets for ninjas is irrelevant since the topic again is...<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 26pt">"Benchmark Barrels Rifles Show Em!!!!"</span></span>

To the OP... I don't own one, but I've heard good things about them and saw the products in action at the FSC 2012 with good results...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TeamSendIt!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hmmmm I might have a few pics somewhere..... </div></div>


I have been waiting for your pics dude!!!!
 
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trg 42 7 rem mag
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trg 22 7-08
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7 rem mag 700 la
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top 284 700 la
bottom fn spr 6x47
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6mm dasher on eliseo r5 chassis
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defiance 7-08
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the build that started all this craziness savage 22-250ai 8 twist
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quite honestly i have had way more rifles built by them and these have all been in the last 3 yrs, but i couldn't dig up pics on all of them. Hell i don't even have a current pic of my aiae mkii with 3 of there barrels for it.


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One of these days i will get all 7 members of team send it together and we will take a pic with all of our benchmark rifles. 3 of which are accuracy internationals.
 
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No pics here. Was thinking about adding a tube on my hunting rig though, and was going to call Benchmark. The recovery on that service issue is disconcerting however. Basic business rule: "When you win an argument with a Customer... you lose".

Those are some very fine looking rifles.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike in Boise</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No pics here. Was thinking about adding a tube on my hunting rig </div></div>

All of the guys over there hunt with 7wsm and the ones they build are absolute lasers.

Don't hesitate to give them a call, they just built me a 7 rem mag on a winchester 70 classic with 28" barrel going to try and snag a long range black bear this year with it on video.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TeamSendIt!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One of these days i will get all 7 members of team send it together and we will take a pic with all of our benchmark rifles. 3 of which are accuracy internationals. </div></div>

Scotty.... I'll see if I can't help you out!
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I’ve gotten to know the Benchmark crew through TSI, over the last couple of years. Being a great group of guys, as well as staunch supporters of our local scene, I was really eager, to give their barrels a try. The way things played out, I’ve always had a good barrel in the stable, so was never in the need of a new one... until now!
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This was load development at 200yds (I prefer 600, but the High Power guys were hogging the range that weekend)… this was the keeper, in a “Round Robin” effort, with 5 other loads being tested… that fifth one is ALL Shooter… I just hosed the trigger… by the time I got to it, my concentration had pretty much left for a warmer climate…
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This was the first “Zeroed Group” at 100yds for this barrel/load… Funny thing is…. I know this could be tighter… I really wanted to shoot a nice “picturesque” group, for the first one on zero… Totally loosing cool… and Zen leaving with it… with every shot I got closer to the last, my Nervous Nelly heart, felt like it was going to jump out of my chest…. Point being… the ONLY weak link here, is the SHOOTER…
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First group shot at 600yds…

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Big-World Data Collected…

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Dope recorded… Velocity & BC Tuned… the barrel is ready! The work continues on the Nut behind the Bolt…
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Oh… and Benchmark now has the ability to carve out an AI barrel… as this one was made for mine.

Ron, Chris, Jerry & Barry… Thanks Fellas… I’ll be back!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike in Boise</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No pics here. Was thinking about adding a tube on my hunting rig though, and was going to call Benchmark. The recovery on that service issue is disconcerting however. Basic business rule: "When you win an argument with a Customer... you lose".

Those are some very fine looking rifles. </div></div>

Getting on a thread that is supposed to be a positive one and going off topic to voice his negative complaints speaks volumes about his character. If you are looking for a company with a 100% customer satisfaction you won't find it if for nothing else than some people in this world have a sense of self entitlement and want something for nothing, and when they don't get it the water works start. You can't please everyone. I and others have had several Benchmarks without hiccups and know enough about Ron and Barry to not hesitate about building more. I find this guys attitude irritating and offensive its no wonder he didn't get what he was after.

Anyone who has been in business for awhile has at one time or another seen people with this character. They are the ones that are impossible to please and want something for nothing.

This was the only picture i could find of my old .308 win with a Benchmark. I wish i still had the targets that had multiple 5 shot groups on it that all averaged .3"

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I talked with them about a job on my Remington. As soon as my new stock gets here (4-5 months from now) I will be dropping it off in Arlington. Steven
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a-hull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Thanks again for turning my picture thread into a place for you to tell your sad little story.
I think you have attempted and failed to explain it accurately.
A quick example is right here. "To call my reloading practices shoddy" is a bit of a stretch.
No one said that. I said "Which tells me this guy is not well versed in reloading." and "I think he doesn't know as much about reloading as he thinks."
I think you are exaggerating the story because you wanted a free barrel and you got you panties all twisted up when they wouldn't play your game.
I am not going to continue discussing this with you. I am also not going to keep asking Ron about anything.
I think your full of crap. Here is why:

I found this in one of your older post. Sounds like you had your problem figured out to me.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...455#Post2473455

#2474360 - 04/03/11 11:50 AM Re: 338 Lapua load to hot? [Re: fireguyty]
71firebird400
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Registered: 03/28/09
Posts: 563
Loc: Bellingham, WA Originally Posted By: fireguyty
No, I don't. If this was the issue, do you think that running the hot load is the cause of the excessive case head expansion?

Sounds like I need to get some new brass, and run a powder with a published load.


<span style="color: #FF0000">Yes, excessive case head expansion is one of the most definite ways to determine if you're running too hot.</span> In my experience, the 338LM doesn't show a lot of the conventional pressure signs (flattened primers, difficult extraction, etc) <span style="color: #FF0000">until it's really too hot or after you've put several hot reloads through it.</span> <span style="color: #FF0000">I can't really explain why this is, but I'd guess it could just be a really strong case that can tolerate a lot of abuse. </span>
Like PGS suggested, I'd recommend going with Lapua brass; run just a couple cases (5-10) for several firings and see if it shows up again. I'd hate to see you prematurely wear out 100 Lapua cases with the same problem.

Good luck!



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I can't follow your logic, but yes casehead expansion is a way to determine if one is experiencing excessive pressure. However, if you read my previous post carefully you'll see that I was experiencing expansion of the body of the case at a beginning load of 85gr of Retumbo, and difficult extraction at 87gr behind a 300SMK. That is an incredibly mild load, max charge is 94gr in nearly all reloading manuals.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a-hull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
This is an exception. His problem is over pressure and is trying to blame benchmark. If your not an idiot you have nothing to worry about. </div></div>

My problem was NOT over pressure. Once again, please read my previous posts. I did a test with virgin Lapua cases between 85 and 94gr of Retumbo behind a 300 SMK. ALL cases above 87gr had difficult extraction on the second firing and beyond. 87gr of Retumbo with a 300SMK is a mild load. Additionally I experimented with 250 Scenars (with 4831sc) and they too showed difficult extraction at mild loads.

I know the Hull brothers aren't listening to what I'm saying here, but I did my homework and experimented with different dies, bullets, brass, powder, and primers before arriving at the conclusion I did. At that point I brought it to Benchmark and asked for their help in troubleshooting; they couldn't explain it either and blamed it on the "Semi-Auto" 338 Lapua reamer.

I don't appreciate being referred to as an "idiot" nor do I understand how my attitude is offensive? I am just explaining what happened here and the Hulls refuse to use reason or logic; they are simply assuming I am wrong and that Benchmark is right. I am willing to let this die as long as you two don't make false claims about what happened.

My story is pretty straight forward, if anyone has any specific questions please PM me and I will be more than happy to discuss the details.
 
Re: Benchmark Barrels Rifles Show Em!!!!

I want to preface this by saying that i know Lowlights rules about posting groups and i agree with them. However target one was shot at 100yds the day before shooting target two. The results are too consistent to ignore or deny. The only variable i changed was the primer. The 100yd target was shot with the Fed 215 GMM primer. The load ran a tad hot so i thought i would try the Fed 210M primer to bring the pressure down a tad, it worked! Target two was shot at 300yds with the Fed 210M primer. The crazy thing at 300 yards is that if i stopped shooting after the first 3 shots the group would have measured .138"!!!

<span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">100 yards</span></span> 3-shots

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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">300 yards</span></span> 4-shots

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Shot with this rifle and a rear bag....

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Re: Benchmark Barrels Rifles Show Em!!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I don't appreciate being referred to as an "idiot" nor do I understand how my attitude is offensive? I am just explaining what happened here and the Hulls refuse to use reason or logic; they are simply assuming I am wrong and that Benchmark is right. I am willing to let this die as long as you two don't make false claims about what happened.
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Lol... If you don't want to be referred to as an idiot, dumbass, or general evader of Natural Selection then try reading what has been actually said. The OP did not ask for opinions or experiences on Benchmark, but you felt compelled to bring your drama with the company to his thread and shit all over it trying to prove a point with something that has NOTHING to do with the thread. So... take your thread hijacking ninja ass and start your own thread like a real man where you can voice your opinion of Benchmark freely and some may even agree with you. I doubt it... but even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile...
 
Re: Benchmark Barrels Rifles Show Em!!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I don't appreciate being referred to as an "idiot" nor do I understand how my attitude is offensive? I am just explaining what happened here and the Hulls refuse to use reason or logic; they are simply assuming I am wrong and that Benchmark is right. I am willing to let this die as long as you two don't make false claims about what happened.
</div></div>

Lol... If you don't want to be referred to as an idiot, dumbass, or general evader of Natural Selection then try reading what has been actually said. The OP did not ask for opinions or experiences on Benchmark, but you felt compelled to bring your drama with the company to his thread and shit all over it trying to prove a point with something that has NOTHING to do with the thread. So... take your thread hijacking ninja ass and start your own thread like a real man where you can voice your opinion of Benchmark freely and some may even agree with you. I doubt it... but even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile... </div></div>

I see you have to resort to name calling to make your point. If you want to argue technicalities then I actually did post a rifle in this thread that was worked on by Benchmark. You, on the other hand, have not.
 
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