Suppressors AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

[Radioactive Yeti]

Guys... Sure we have seen the topic before but I wanted to get your opinions...

I have a LWRC REPR. And a Savage bolt in 308 and I'm working on building a 300 WM bolt gun. I currently am waiting on the form 3 transfer to my dealer on a SDN-6 but now I have had a chance to use a Surefire brake and a FA762K. It is a teensy bit louder but I love the brake.. So... Should I just go with the AAC or sould I go ahead with a Surefire? I keep hearing about the mount issue with AAC but haven't seen it. What about 300WM? Can't seem to get a good answer as to will a SDN-6 handle it?

So AAC OR SUREFIRE?

And

Any performance difference in the Surefire FA762SS and the FA762K? Different break and mount but how about sound reduction?

Thanks.

 

[KYS]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

I would go with the 762SS over the K as its mounting system is more solid, to me that is.

They are all rated for 30 cal use.

If you already have the AAC coming to you why would you want to start another transfer in its place? I would say keep with what you have coming and you will be happy. Get a Surefire down the road.... they are not cheap!

 

[Radioactive Yeti]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

My AAC is on its way to the dealer on a form 3 transfers I am really considering letting it go to the next guy on the list and getting a FA762K instead as most of my 30 cal shooting is precision rifle....

 

[operator45]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

I dont believe the 762-sdn-6 is rated for 300 win mag.

 

[Lowlight]

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For the SF I'm another who says, the 762SS,

the AAC Cans are fine, a bit heavy, (762SDN) but not bad, unless you are getting the Mk13 SD, that is a nice can, mine is in the queue now. You get a 300WM ranged can that is a lot lighter than the SDN.

If the SF is not in stock, be prepared to wait, especially if your dealer is not a SF dealer.

 

[Radioactive Yeti]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

Why the Surefire SS vs the K? Is it just POI shift or does it provide better recoil/Db reduction as well... The guys at SF said they were the same noise reduction and that he would recommend the K version.... Mainly due to being ale to use it on SBRs and Bull barrels with less issues. What are the big advantages of the SS? Personal opinions and experiences would help if you can.....

 

[HPLLC]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

Just get an AAC brake mount.

Another suppressor for the better brake would seem like a huge investment for marginal returns.

You'll probably use the rifle with the suppressor once you have it.

 

[Radioactive Yeti]

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Alright.... This was easy.... I walked into the shop today to see about pricing for the Surefire and low and behold they had just gotten a shipment in.... My SDN-6 was in and wouldn't you know it they had an extra FA762K in the case... After a side by side I went with the Surefire. Come on... A SF on the shelf... And only $1399 (friend pricing)? Didn't take me to long to make up my mind.... Tha AAC went to the next guy and the Surefire is mine baby...my paperwork goes in tomorrow. So I should have my 30 cal suppressor by the beginning of June.............
2013...
Damn...

 

[Radioactive Yeti]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

Thanks again for all the input guys....

 

[RonA]

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The SDN-6 is outstanding on .300 Blackout with subsonic ammo, but with supersonic it looses it's edge. Full .308 overpowers it(over 140db).

 

[RangerWalker71]

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RadioactiveYeti, you could also get a 30P-1. Dedicate it to your bolt gun, much quieter then a QD mount, plus its wicked light, zero POI shift, good for any 30 cal and down, I 7mag, or 300WM is very nice to shoot. just as quiet as a 308 suppressed and recoil is a dream.

 

[Radioactive Yeti]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rangerwalker71</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RadioactiveYeti, you could also get a 30P-1. Dedicate it to your bolt gun, much quieter then a QD mount, plus its wicked light, zero POI shift, good for any 30 cal and down, I 7mag, or 300WM is very nice to shoot. just as quiet as a 308 suppressed and recoil is a dream. </div></div>

Almost nabbed one last month.... There was a 30-P Titanium on va gun trader for $300. Yep $300.... Lol. I waited 2 min too long to get it... I looked at the thunderbeast very seriously.. Still thinking about a dedicated thread on for a 300 WM.... Thanks for all the info and I will post pics of the REPR as soon as the suppressor come through...l eventually.....

 

[Ishikawa]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the AAC Cans are fine, a bit heavy, (762SDN) but not bad, unless you are getting the Mk13 SD, that is a nice can, mine is in the queue now. You get a 300WM ranged can that is a lot lighter than the SDN.
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LL...what are your thoughts on the new 90T mounts that AAC has developed?

I was about to jump towards Ops Inc...but these have me reconsidering AAC. I love my Cyclone K, but want something for multiple hosts. The SR-7 looks like the ticket for me, but that Mk13 is just sex!

 

[Killbox Alpha]

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I haven't seen any mention of the AAC MK13-SD Weight wise it compares very well to anyother 30 cal can and it is rated up to a 300wm.

 

[Charger442]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rangerwalker71</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RadioactiveYeti, you could also get a 30P-1. Dedicate it to your bolt gun, much quieter then a QD mount, plus its wicked light, zero POI shift, good for any 30 cal and down, I 7mag, or 300WM is very nice to shoot. just as quiet as a 308 suppressed and recoil is a dream. </div></div>

what are your thoughts on the 30P-1 vs the 30BA? is the sound that much less with the thread-on versus the brake attach? the 30BA seems like it would be a no brainer for multiple hosts and calibers, just need to buy TBACs brakes for the different guns.

 

[blksno]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

This has only a marginal relation to your topic, but I still found it interesting. From either March or April of "Shooting Illustrated"

 

[Zak Smith]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charger442</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what are your thoughts on the 30P-1 vs the 30BA? is the sound that much less with the thread-on versus the brake attach? the 30BA seems like it would be a no brainer for multiple hosts and calibers, just need to buy TBACs brakes for the different guns. </div></div>
The 30P-1 and 30BA sound pretty much identical.

 

[Charger442]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

Is there a difference in POI shift?

 

[HPLLC]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

The velocity results on that test are strange. The drop truing method- I wonder if that is the best way to do that.

The Surefire +100FPS and AAC Mini4 -65FPS really seem odd. The mini-4 should probably be pretty close to identical with the M4-2000 (except less baffles and length), so the 65 FPS lower velocity is strange.

Obviously if that were true, another 100 FPS with Surefire would be a big benefit.

The G5 likewise- +60FPS with one 55 grain load, and -20 with another? Really seems unlikely.

 

[blksno]

Re: AAC vs Surefire vs Surefire on 762.. Again...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Griffin Armament</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The velocity results on that test are strange. The drop truing method- I wonder if that is the best way to do that.

The Surefire +100FPS and AAC Mini4 -65FPS really seem odd. The mini-4 should probably be pretty close to identical with the M4-2000 (except less baffles and length), so the 65 FPS lower velocity is strange.

Obviously if that were true, another 100 FPS with Surefire would be a big benefit.

The G5 likewise- +60FPS with one 55 grain load, and -20 with another? Really seems unlikely. </div></div>

Question the source, not the vessel.
You'll have to read the full article to see the details of the test.
With a 40 shot average (eight 5 shot groups), I think its probably relatively accurate...however...without seeing the ES and SD, its hard to conclude...especially at only 300 yds.

I'm looking forward to doing a similar review on my own, this summer maybe.

 

[Chabrone]

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The test was done with a 1-4x Millet scope too. Not my first choice for testing groups but I don't work for a magazine either.

 

[Zak Smith]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there a difference in POI shift?</div></div>
There might be a slight difference barrel to barrel but they are pretty close.