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Two more headed home.

wnroscoe

Gunny Sergeant
Full Member
Minuteman
Jun 12, 2006
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NW Louisiana
For two friends in KY,

Both rifles are as follows;

LAP Signature Receiver / Builds
#8 Bartlein 5r 1-8 twist
Finished at 26
LAP Brake
260 Lapua Chamber
Surgeon DBM
Jewell HVR Trigger
Manners T4-A Carbon Fiber
LAP grip texture
LAP stock blending
Rifle #1 in Desert
Rifle #2 in GAP


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very nice as always, look like amazing builds
 
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Nice work as always William!

Quick question. "260Lapua chamber" What's that??

Been busy lately, so not been keeping up on my reading. Have I missed something?

Neil
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: .257</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I assume the Lapua chamber is for the 260 Lapua brass. It is known that the Lapua 260 brass is thicker in the neck than Rp or Nosler </div></div>

Bingo

.297" Nk reamer (260 Lapua) vs my standard .295" Nk reamer. Just a way for me to keep it straight in my head. The rifles are still marked 260 Remington Match though.
 
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Wow those are some super slick looking rifles.

Gonna be some very proud owners of those rigs.
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Loaded 260 Lapua brass @ the Nk has been measuring .295" just in case someone wanted to know.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pwc001</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keep turning them out, hopefully mine will get done soon. </div></div>

^^^^ this

Keep up the good work William. Excellent looking rifles and I know they will shoot as good as they look.
 
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Nice looking builds.
So you have only .002 neck clearance for a loaded round?
 
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I don't think I've ever seen a rifle (or two) with the rear tang fitted so nicely in the stock. It looks almost as if its all one piece. Very nice work and attention to detail.
 
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They look great William did you do the paint work on the stocks to.Can't wait to see what mine is going to look like.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bluejazz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice looking builds.
So you have only .002 neck clearance for a loaded round? </div></div>

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I got to see both of the rifles in person on Friday and pictures dont do them justice.William does the painting on the stocks and I believe they weigh in at 16 lbs.
 
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Thanks for the smily response, William.
Just doesn't seem like enough clearance for me. I would want about .003-.004 clearance for a reamer size of .299
 
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Jazz,

Here's the deal, as long as there's no more than .005" clearance between the loaded neck and chamber neck your in the money. Anymore than .005" and you induce run out in the neck during the sizing process and your accuracy goes south and quick.

My main 260 reamer has a .295" Nk with .090” free bore, the Lapua reamer has a .297” Nk with .090” free bore, almost same/same. The 260 Lapua reamer was ordered after the .295” Nk reamer, after the 260 lapua brass came out. My standard 260 reamer wouldn’t work because the Lapua brass was thicker and would cause a pressure spike if used.

I started out building BR rifles for myself and graduated to building them for friends as well. Prior to that I became very proficient at reloading and bedding rifle stocks. My first BR comps were in the factory class and it was during this time that we realized why we were getting run out in our loaded ammo. The factory chamber necks were huge compared to our loaded ammo.

I've checked this on other custom rifles built by others and guess what, it worked the same and for the same reasons.

All the rifles I build have this chamber neck requirement and a custom throat dimension, from the neck shoulder junction south is minimum SAAMI, that’s it. The other part of the equation is the headspace I use and how it's set. Incremental HS gauges from JGS are used for measuring my HS and they run from a true “Zero” to a plus .006”

To some, this may sound like total BS. If so, I'll simply step back and let the rifles speak.

 
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Looking good William. Im sure those KY boys will be very happy with them.
 
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No disrespect intended if thats the way you took it.
However,
.001 clearance per side of a loaded round is not what I would be looking for in a rifle. I would feel more comfortable with .0015-.002 clearance per side, thats all.
I am sure you build a fine rifle as everyone on here seems very happy with your work.
The builds look great.
Thanks for your time you put into your response to elaborate on your reamer.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bluejazz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No disrespect intended if thats the way you took it.</div></div>

No worries Jazz, thats not the way I took it and not what I meant.

If you went +.005" over Lapua brass you'd be .299"/.300" still OK but, .297" is SAAMI for the 260 neck, why enlarge that?

260 SAAMI
 
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Is the .090 freebore for the 140 VLD/142 SMK and what COAL does that give you, if you don't mind my asking?
Asking, as I am thinking about putting a 6.5 together.
 
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You could use .080" to .100" and be GTG with 139 Scenars and or 142 SMK's out of an AI magazine. There's really no magic FB in that range, pick one and run with it.

I'm .005" off the lands and my COAL is 2.835" with the Scenars.
 
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Sir - Those are beautiful rifles. I'm curious about the 26" barrel. Was that your choice or the customer's? Again, nicely done!
 
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That was their choice but would have been my reccomendation if asked.

I run 26" by default on all but 2 of my rifles, 1 308 @ 20" and 1 260 @ 24"
 
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I'm pretty sure my gun was cut with this reamer. I started out running at 2.125" to ojive and after about 600 rounds now I'm at 2.133" to ojive. Right at .005" off lands as well.

Compared to my 19" .308 it's almost like cheating.

Lapua Brass
BR2
42.0gr H4350
139 Scenar