Wincheater Stealth 300 WSM

[montgomery627]

Was looking through one of the flyers that we recently received and noticed that they had the Stealth in a 300 wsm on sale. Does anyone out there have any experience with these rifles? Are the triggers any good? How is the accuracy?

Also noticed that Winchester does not list it on there website in this caliber. What's going on with this? It is an exclusive or did they discontinue it?

 

[Longshot38]

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Winchester triggers are awesome. There really is no need to put an aftermarket trigger on a Winchester and adjustment is simple. As for accuracy they are like any other factory rifle, MOA is average but some are better and some are worse. The real question is it push feed or CRF?

 

[beretta989]

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I have the Stealth 2 in 223 Wssm threaded for my sandstorm its any varmints nightmare. And yes the Stealth is a great rifle to own and shoot.

 

[montgomery627]

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Longshot 38,
I have no idea what feed system it has. I will look after church and post a link of it on Zanders site. Thanks for the info on the trigger system.

 

[montgomery627]

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Longshot38,
It is controlled round feed.

http://oldcatalog.gzanders.com/index.php

 

[montgomery627]

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Anyone else have an opinion on the Stealth with a controlled round feed system?

 

[Mike]

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I had a stealth and it was the most accurate factory rifle I've ever shot.

I'd own one again in a heart beat.

 

[montgomery627]

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Thanks Mike,
What caliber did u have? I'm having a problem trying to decide on either buying a 300 WM in a Remy 5r or this Winchester Stealth in a 300 wsm. I've googled it in 300 wsm and can't find much info on it. I'm not sure what to do.

 

[Mike]

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Mine was a 308.

As far as what calibers to choose, that's really a personal preference. If you want my opinion, I would go with the 300WM because the 300WM has much better potential as a "magnum" chambering shooting the 208 Amax at 3000+fps. The 300WSM is not a bad cartridge and the Winchester is a great platform, but side by side the 300WM takes the cake.

 

[montgomery627]

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Thanks Mike. That's what I was wanting to hear. I got to thinking last night that the WSM would probably phase out before the WM would also so, being that I reload most of my ammo, it wouldn't be as hard to come by brass if/when the crap hits the fan so to say.

Thanks again Mike.

 

[montgomery627]

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Well heck,the bug bit today. I walked into a shop and they had a 700 PSS in 300WM and I just couldn't resist it. Had to go ahead and get it.

 

[Blaktastic]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mine was a 308.

As far as what calibers to choose, that's really a personal preference. If you want my opinion, I would go with the 300WM because the 300WM has much better potential as a "magnum" chambering shooting the 208 Amax at 3000+fps. The 300WSM is not a bad cartridge and the Winchester is a great platform, but side by side the 300WM takes the cake. </div></div>

You can actually get more velocity from a 300 wsm because the powder is closer to the primer. Don't know where you learned about ballistics...

 

[Bradley]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blaktastic</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mine was a 308.

As far as what calibers to choose, that's really a personal preference. If you want my opinion, I would go with the 300WM because the 300WM has much better potential as a "magnum" chambering shooting the 208 Amax at 3000+fps. The 300WSM is not a bad cartridge and the Winchester is a great platform, but side by side the 300WM takes the cake. </div></div>

You can actually get more velocity from a 300 wsm because the powder is closer to the primer. Don't know where you learned about ballistics... </div></div>

Could you please elaborate on the powder being closer to the primer?

 

[Bradley]

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I also had a Winchester Stealth back in the early to mid 90's. It also was one of the most accurate factory rifles I'd ever owned. I went through several rifles and several years before I found another factory rifle that was as accurate. The one I had was chambered in .308win, had a blued receiver, stainless barrel, and was push feed. Kicked myself many times for selling it.

 

[Mike]

Re: Wincheater Stealth 300 WSM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blaktastic</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mine was a 308.

As far as what calibers to choose, that's really a personal preference. If you want my opinion, I would go with the 300WM because the 300WM has much better potential as a "magnum" chambering shooting the 208 Amax at 3000+fps. The 300WSM is not a bad cartridge and the Winchester is a great platform, but side by side the 300WM takes the cake. </div></div>

You can actually get more velocity from a 300 wsm because the powder is closer to the primer. Don't know where you learned about ballistics...</div></div>

I learned from this thing called "experience". It seems you're lacking. A) please explain how the powder is "closer to the primer", and please give a scientific explanation on how this is relevant. B) FACT is that a 300WM will push a heavier bullet faster than a 300WSM. You can try and fall back on the "efficiency" of the case design argument but it will fall on deaf ears. Top fuel drag cars are not fuel efficient but I don't see anyone else doing 300mph. The 300WSM can nearly match the performance of a 300WM with 190gn or lighter bullets. You start pushing the heavies and the 300WSM will not keep up.

The bottom line was the 300wsm was designed to put a magnum cartridge in a short action. The sacrifice they made to accomplish this task is the loss to the 300wm performance with the heavy bullets. >190gn.

 

[montgomery627]

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Mike,
What do you think I need to try first in the 700p that I bought today? It has a 1in10 twist so, do you think it will shoot the 208gr A-Max ok?

 

[RTO]

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Montgomery, I shot a 300WSM 1-10 for years and it loved the 208 Amax. What Mike is saying is the wsm wont quite push them as fast as the win mag. You can expect 2850 or so out of the 208's in the wsm. The amax's are jump tolerant bullets and shoot well out of most rifles. You should have no problem with them in the wsm just dont expect to push them as fast as a win mag.

 

[montgomery627]

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RTO,
I bought a WM and was wondering if Mike thought that it would shoot the 208gr A-Max bullets ok. I didn't buy a WSM.

 

[Mike]

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I would get some match ammo first, to get used to the rifle, get a sold zero, etc.

But to answer your question yes, a 1:10 will shoot the 208 AMAX just fine.

Also, something else to consider, Hornady makes a 208 HPBT. It doesn't quite have the BC the AMAX does but it's less expensive and a good back up if you can't find the Amax, which has been known to happen.

 

[montgomery627]

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Thanks for all your help Mike. It's knowledgeable guys like you that's here on the hide that don't mind helping out on technical stuff like this that makes the hide such an enjoyable place to hang out.

Thanks again. I'll be sure and let you know how everything turns out.

 

[beretta989]

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H-1000 and 208s perfect match.