I recently purchased a 40x 22lr from an individual which has a fairly nice stock on it. It appears to be original wood but refinished nicely. I intended to put a synthetic stock on it but when I went to clean the rifle the other day, I found out it was glued into the stock..... is there any way to remove the action without damage to the stock or action? Or, do I just get out the hammer and chisel??
Gunsmithing Re-stocking a 40x
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Re: Re-stocking a 40x
try putting it in the deep freezer
try putting it in the deep freezer
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I will try that. I guess that will cause the glue or epoxy to contract or will it cause it to break all together? Is there much risk of that cracking the stock?
I will try that. I guess that will cause the glue or epoxy to contract or will it cause it to break all together? Is there much risk of that cracking the stock?
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Epoxy won't, glue will. Don't have thermal contraction data, but that epoxy-wood bond is going to be way stronger than wood-wood if they did it right and you might ruin the stock.
Epoxy won't, glue will. Don't have thermal contraction data, but that epoxy-wood bond is going to be way stronger than wood-wood if they did it right and you might ruin the stock.
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the metal will contract and pop loose from the epoxy
the metal will contract and pop loose from the epoxy
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Assuming they didn't prep the metal to bond to the epoxy, which they probably (hopefully) didn't.
Assuming they didn't prep the metal to bond to the epoxy, which they probably (hopefully) didn't.
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Great.... roll the dice and see what happens I guess. I think I will go ahead and order the synthetic stock though, just to be on the safe side!
Thanks for the knowledge everyone.
Great.... roll the dice and see what happens I guess. I think I will go ahead and order the synthetic stock though, just to be on the safe side!
Thanks for the knowledge everyone.
Re: Re-stocking a 40x
Did you check to see there were any spots where the action could be mechanically locked in there? Can you see anything by shining a light up in there around the trigger?
If the freeze doesn't work, maybe you could use a dropper to work some acetone or other solvent in between the stock and action, then let it sit for a while. Depending on how old/tough the glue or epoxy is, it may help break down the bond.
If nothing works, I'd take it to a smith and let them see what they can do. It'd be a shame to loose that stock.
Did you check to see there were any spots where the action could be mechanically locked in there? Can you see anything by shining a light up in there around the trigger?
If the freeze doesn't work, maybe you could use a dropper to work some acetone or other solvent in between the stock and action, then let it sit for a while. Depending on how old/tough the glue or epoxy is, it may help break down the bond.
If nothing works, I'd take it to a smith and let them see what they can do. It'd be a shame to loose that stock.
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Seems like it would be hard to get the trigger assembly in the rifle it if was glued in. Are there any holes in the sides of the stock above the trigger?
Seems like it would be hard to get the trigger assembly in the rifle it if was glued in. Are there any holes in the sides of the stock above the trigger?
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There are no (additional)holes in the stock. I did not even realize it was glued in until I tried to take it out of the stock to clean it.
I have not looked at it with a flashlight to see if I can see any excess glue or epoxy or anything that out of place around the trigger.
I took the two action screws out and shook, tapped, pulled, pushed and everything else I could think of and it would not budge.
Since this is the first 40xb I have owned, I will go ahead and ask the stupidest question ever put into print on the site.....
There are only 2 action screws correct????
Just want to make sure that I haven't missed something!
There are no (additional)holes in the stock. I did not even realize it was glued in until I tried to take it out of the stock to clean it.
I have not looked at it with a flashlight to see if I can see any excess glue or epoxy or anything that out of place around the trigger.
I took the two action screws out and shook, tapped, pulled, pushed and everything else I could think of and it would not budge.
Since this is the first 40xb I have owned, I will go ahead and ask the stupidest question ever put into print on the site.....
There are only 2 action screws correct????
Just want to make sure that I haven't missed something!
Re: Re-stocking a 40x
Yup, Two action screws. If you can get two screw, same thread pitch, but longer then your action screws. Screw them all the way in then give them a wrap with a good size dead blow hammer. I did that for a customer once. It will not hurt the barreled action doing this. I have done the chill in the deep freeze, that works too.
Yup, Two action screws. If you can get two screw, same thread pitch, but longer then your action screws. Screw them all the way in then give them a wrap with a good size dead blow hammer. I did that for a customer once. It will not hurt the barreled action doing this. I have done the chill in the deep freeze, that works too.
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40X 22LR has 3 screws.....
Take the trigger guard completely off. There are 2 large ones and then a small one in the middle.
The BDL models only have 2 screws but pretty slim chance of that in a 22LR model
Stole this pic off GB, shows a non repeating 40X stock bottom, a repeater bottom will be close to the same in some cases.
40X 22LR has 3 screws.....
Take the trigger guard completely off. There are 2 large ones and then a small one in the middle.
The BDL models only have 2 screws but pretty slim chance of that in a 22LR model
Stole this pic off GB, shows a non repeating 40X stock bottom, a repeater bottom will be close to the same in some cases.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rrdstarr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yup, Two action screws. If you can get two screw, same thread pitch, but longer then your action screws. Screw them all the way in then give them a wrap with a good size dead blow hammer. I did that for a customer once. It will not hurt the barreled action doing this. I have done the chill in the deep freeze, that works too. </div></div>
I'm no smith but I don't know that I'd take a hammer to a screw threaded into the action.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wnroscoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tipper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Drill screw head off then punch out with large hammer. </div></div>
No, dont ever do this. All the force will be on the threads and thats a bad deal. </div></div>
Might really be a bad idea if it turns out there was a 3rd screw holding the action in that the op didn't know about.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rrdstarr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yup, Two action screws. If you can get two screw, same thread pitch, but longer then your action screws. Screw them all the way in then give them a wrap with a good size dead blow hammer. I did that for a customer once. It will not hurt the barreled action doing this. I have done the chill in the deep freeze, that works too. </div></div>
I'm no smith but I don't know that I'd take a hammer to a screw threaded into the action.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wnroscoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tipper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Drill screw head off then punch out with large hammer. </div></div>
No, dont ever do this. All the force will be on the threads and thats a bad deal. </div></div>
Might really be a bad idea if it turns out there was a 3rd screw holding the action in that the op didn't know about.
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Sooo did the action come out when you removed 3 screws instead of 2?
Sooo did the action come out when you removed 3 screws instead of 2?
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Silly question. Is this a numbers matching rifle? If so might I suggest finding a non matching rifle to be modernized....
Silly question. Is this a numbers matching rifle? If so might I suggest finding a non matching rifle to be modernized....
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