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The New iDATABOOK FOR iPHONES

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Bought the app when it was released a few months ago. Certainly has potential but it needs upgrades. I've put this app down pending those. Been several months with no updates and comments from the developer re update ???

Personally I would pay double if it was 100% with no issues. Hopefully we hear about an update soon. Until then its good old paper data.
 
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I have two questions.
First questions is for all the app users, I see some complaints regarding this app but are you these gripes making it to the developer? I'm sure he is interested in improving his app, maybe you could help.

Second, has anyone heard anything about the android version. I don't see any updates on iDatabook website.

Thank you
 
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Yeah I'm pretty sure he knows the issues but there hasn't been. Much response or comment for a while. My question on their Facebook page has had no reply. Website hasn't been updated. Would be very interested to know what stage v2 was at.
 
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I did the update and it erased my logs also. I also haven't been able to back it up on their web site. I like the program but right now it has a few issues to work out
 
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Shit...for the price of $29.99, I'll purchase the Sniper's Hide limited edition databook from Impact Data for an extra few dollars or pick one up from Storm Tactical; especially after reading how logs have been erased and whatnot with the iDatabook.
 
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Any updates on iDatabook? Have the issues been dealt with that some of you guys posted?
Are the measurements also in metric numbers?

Cheers, Nick.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kope</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I updated my iPhone with the latest OS and it seems even after syncing my databooks that all my data is lost. Anyone else have this problem? </div></div>


Yep. This app is worthless. It is supposed to store data not erase it!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deputy Dawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone actually a sniper. Nothing like a screen from a phone to give you away. The idea is to remain concealed on a covert op. Overt op fine. Still would like to rely on something tangible. Plus, if a shot is taken what goes into evidence. Your log book. I.e. Your 600 dollar phone. Still cheaper than data book? </div></div>

I know Delta operators (yes snipers) that would be out in the field with toughbooks emailing intel and sitreps back to the TOC.
Point being it's all situational dependent.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rickp</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deputy Dawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone actually a sniper. Nothing like a screen from a phone to give you away. The idea is to remain concealed on a covert op. Overt op fine. Still would like to rely on something tangible. Plus, if a shot is taken what goes into evidence. Your log book. I.e. Your 600 dollar phone. Still cheaper than data book? </div></div>

I know Delta operators (yes snipers) that would be out in the field with toughbooks emailing intel and sitreps back to the TOC.
Point being it's all situational dependent.
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Delta operator or not it's a moot point. Data books save data. This does the opposite. As far as what delta does I have no clue. I will take your word for it. LEO Sniper deals is closer ranges. A bright ass screen can be seen at 50 to 100 yards. I am in a vehicle at work about 60 yards from another motorist and I can see the light on her face. If you get it to save info lemme know.
 
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There are other threads talking about this, so if you didn't get the word, here it is. We are working on the lost data problem. We are working away from the original company that built this for us. Went out of business a couple of days after the app hit the market (had no clue as to the companies issues. Was reputable). When it was released, everything worked. something happened in transition that we are trying to figure out. It was never meant to be released so that the users would be "Beta" testers. It worked, in full. The app has a lot of great features in it, and will be fixed. I'll keep you updated when I receive updates. Keep in mind that "our" idea of promptness, is different from a programmers idea of promptness.
 
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I just ran through the tutorial that is on the iDataBook website, and as an IR professional (I manage IT projects at Txeas Dept of Public Safety - the Texas State Police), I can tell everyone who is willing to listen: once this app has been repaired to handle operating system upgrades, and any other issues, it is a SCREAMIN' DEAL.

Comapring it to a paper log book is like comparing a modern accoutning system to a set of paper ledgers. This app's funcitonality goes WAY beyond that of a logbook, and it can egenrate data sumamries and highlight important things way better than YOU as a human working manually can.

As soon as I see that the app has been repaired and is trustworthy, I am buying it.

The one thing that I already wish it had as a feature, that it currenrtly lacks, is the ability to run also on a regular Apple laptop, where the much larger screen and easy pritning ability would be GREAT pluses for post-range analysis. I hope the develoeprs will consider adding that feature.

Jim G
 
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I spent a bit of time speaking to James, the owner/developer of the app yesterday. I made him aware of a few glitches I found while playing with it.

James seems to be a real good guy with a sincere and upfront desire to get this app running with no issues.

R.
 
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Can someone post a printed out page. I'm guessing it prints in a PDF. I plan to purchase the app on the next update. The ability to add custom targets is what I'm waiting for. I'm planning to print my book on 5x8 index cards and put them in a small 3 ring binder. I'm just not sure how the printing works. Thanks.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevo1011</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can someone post a printed out page. I'm guessing it prints in a PDF. I plan to purchase the app on the next update. The ability to add custom targets is what I'm waiting for. I'm planning to print my book on 5x8 index cards and put them in a small 3 ring binder. I'm just not sure how the printing works. Thanks. </div></div>

Save your money. Get a book from a sponsor. If you have a burning desire to throw away 30 bucks send it to me. About 3 days they posted on Facebook that they are working on update. This update has been in the works for months. Right now the program just deletes your data when you upgrade your iphone software. Right now, i would love to stop posting about this product. The only way that will happen is with a refund.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deputy Dawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevo1011</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can someone post a printed out page. I'm guessing it prints in a PDF. I plan to purchase the app on the next update. The ability to add custom targets is what I'm waiting for. I'm planning to print my book on 5x8 index cards and put them in a small 3 ring binder. I'm just not sure how the printing works. Thanks. </div></div>

Save your money. Get a book from a sponsor. If you have a burning desire to throw away 30 bucks send it to me. About 3 days they posted on Facebook that they are working on update. This update has been in the works for months. Right now the program just deletes your data when you upgrade your iphone software. Right now, i would love to stop posting about this product. The only way that will happen is with a refund. </div></div>

I acutally hate to do this but +1. I bought this app for all it could be, and it isn't. Comes with 5-6 targets, none of which i use, they have been saying the ability to upload targets was coming since DAY 1. I've removed it from my phone all together, total waste of $30.

Sorry to do this to the developer but I don't want anyone else to waste the money until it's fixed.

J
 
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Gun Log is pretty good at keeping notes and it's only $1. I use it in the field then transfer it to hard copy when I have time
 
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I got it when it first came out, and I'm having the same issues as everyone else. At this point, completely disappointed in the product, and the lack of public communication/updates from the developer. Sorry, but I cannot recommend it to anyone looking for a ballistic app.
 
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I know everyone is frustrated about the delay in the update for idatabook, as am I. However, I had to find a new developer to fix the issues we were having, and a new update should be out next week, upon apples approval. We haven't been sitting idle since the problems started, but it takes time to get the ball rolling. Especially with a new developer who has no history with the product. I will say that they have assured me that the data loss has stopped, and that the features in the app work better than the original version. Everyone's needs and wants have been taken into consideration, however, this update will have fixes only. They have a list of new features, to include, taking pics of your own target, and we are reworking the server to handle the next generation of idatabook. For those of who have not dealt with creating an app, it is not as cut and dry as one would think. We will continue to push forward with the updates everyone wants to see after this "fix" update ha been released,
 
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way to confusing. of to many steps to enter data. easer to manually enter in book. JMO.
 
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i dont; mean t be the materialist one of te groups but for those of us that purchased this app months ago and it never worked, what can we get in return. I think it's only fair for the mount or money and time we've had to wait to get a working app maybe something in return would be nice.

thank
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rickp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i dont; mean t be the materialist one of te groups but for those of us that purchased this app months ago and it never worked, what can we get in return. I think it's only fair for the mount or money and time we've had to wait to get a working app maybe something in return would be nice.

thank
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I asked for a refund. Never got back to me. Would love thirty bucks back. I don't think that will happen. Hell, I would delete all my posts regarding the product too if it would get me my money back.
 
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Hold off on that. I have the guys direct email and # i believe. I just spoke t him last week about an update and he told me is should be out in about a week or 2. Now i know this has been said before as well, but I'm trying to give the guy a chance to do the right thing. If in another week I dont see an update then I'll ask ofor a refund straight from him. I'll post his reply. If that doesn't work I'll contact Apple directly and see what they have to say.

I know people have been MORE THAN PATIENTE with this thing and I'm not vested in this at all. I just want the app working or my money back.

either way i'll post a comment after I speak to the guy.
 
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One thing I would like to see updated is the method of inputting "called" shots and actual hits.

You click "start shot" then click the target, then click where you called the shot. Then you click "Hit" and click where your hit was. Then click "Done" and "Next Shot" to move on to another shot.

WAY too many steps. You should simply have a target and the default "Call" should be center of the target. If I call a flyer, then I have the option to go back and change the called shot. Otherwise, I don't need to go through all the steps.

Overall, the program has been very frustrating to use. I've tried using it several times, and just end up writing everything down on whatever I have with me at the time with a marker.

I've requested per their Facebook page that they add a place to store load data for each rifle. Then it would at least be useful in that regard.
-Dan
 
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Everyone,

I have not purchased this app, nor have any kind of relationship with the seller. However I do hae some background in programming, and trying to deliver applications. I think it would be a good application, once its delivered. I encourage everyone to submit feature requests to the developer.

What I really wanted to do was give everyone a picture of what the fellow must be faced with.

Imagine you sell expensive custom rifles. But you don't build them. You rely on a gunsmith to build them. You have customers waiting on rifles, and the manufacturer of the parts you need for your gunsmith is creating delays. Your gunsmith can't build the rifles without these parts, so you go looking for another source. You finally find another source, and the specs are different. Your gunsmith now has to change the setup to deal with these new changes in parts and specifications. All of this doesn't really matter to the customer, but it is pretty much out of the control of the seller. He is totally there with the customers in being frustrated with not being able to deliver product that he has spent thousands of dollars developing, and countless hours to get to where he today. But still, can't get his customers who want to buy, a rifle.

I am not saying he's a great guy, I don't know him. But I have been stuck trying to deliver an application where I don't have very strong control over the developers, nor really much alternative other than starting fresh, and it really sucks.

I just figure I have a bit of empathy for the guy is all I am saying.


PS. I checked out the website and the tutorial on the app, and I can say that this either cost lots of money to develop or someone spent a huge chunk of time creating it or both are true. As someone who has written code, its not something I would want to tackle on my own, it's pretty complex.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HeroFish</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everyone,

<span style="font-weight: bold">I have not purchased this app, nor have any kind of relationship with the seller.</span> However I do hae some background in programming, and trying to deliver applications. <span style="font-weight: bold">I think it would be a good application, once its delivered</span>. I encourage everyone to submit feature requests to the developer.

What I really wanted to do was give everyone a picture of what the fellow must be faced with.

Imagine you sell expensive custom rifles. But you don't build them. You rely on a gunsmith to build them. You have customers waiting on rifles, and the manufacturer of the parts you need for your gunsmith is creating delays. Your gunsmith can't build the rifles without these parts, so you go looking for another source. You finally find another source, and the specs are different. Your gunsmith now has to change the setup to deal with these new changes in parts and specifications. All of this doesn't really matter to the customer, but it is pretty much out of the control of the seller. He is totally there with the customers in being frustrated with not being able to deliver product that he has spent thousands of dollars developing, and countless hours to get to where he today. But still, can't get his customers who want to buy, a rifle.

I am not saying he's a great guy, I don't know him. But I have been stuck trying to deliver an application where I don't have very strong control over the developers, nor really much alternative other than starting fresh, and it really sucks.

I just figure I have a bit of empathy for the guy is all I am saying.


PS. I checked out the website and the tutorial on the app, and I can say that this either cost lots of money to develop or someone spent a huge chunk of time creating it or both are true. As someone who has written code, its not something I would want to tackle on my own, it's pretty complex.</div></div>

What I put in bold says it all. Not to be an ass but spare us the 'I know what it's like to be a programmer' speech because the last 'update' that was released essentially turned the program into a waste of bandwidth and space with everyone who downloaded it becoming a $30 guinea pig. That update was WELL over six months ago and there hasn't been shit fixed since the issue was discovered by everyone who updated.

Being self taught in I.T., I understand the time and money that goes into development and deployment of an application, network, etc. The very LEAST the developer should've done when this issue (bug) was discovered is provide a roll-back function so at least everyone's $30 wasn't wasted.

If he would've planned properly, what he SHOULD have done is consult with the shooting community for input and feedback before deployment. Had he provided a free 'LITE' version and asked shooters to try it out and report any bugs and addressed each of them accordingly, guys wouldn't have an issue paying $30 for a FULL version.

Instead, he got in a rush in posting the application for sale, only for a short time later to see it fail. Now, he has a bunch of pissed off shooters who feel as though they've been taken.
 
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the only thing that i see that a dadt book cant do is gps your posision and allow you to range your target by touching it instead of drawing it out and ranging it by hand.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: s.i.t.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the only thing that i see that a dadt book cant do is gps your posision and allow you to range your target by touching it instead of drawing it out and ranging it by hand. </div></div>

Do you have all your info saved? Spent some time logging in rifles Scopes serial numbers, bullets, info of your previous 170 rounds. Now do the opposite of a data book. Delete all that shit. This is an awesome tool for someone who never shoot. The biggest problem was I was Guinea pig for this company. I advise you to stay away unless you already bought it. Even after the update. Something with this much piss poor planning will never get right. Again, to the developer, can I have my money back. Information and time is money. I lost a ton because of your product. You could at least send me the thirty bucks back.
 
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This was posted this evening on their Facebook page.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The very LEAST the developer should've done when this issue (bug) was discovered is provide a roll-back function so at least everyone's $30 wasn't wasted.

If he would've planned properly, what he SHOULD have done is consult with the shooting community for input and feedback before deployment. Had he provided a free 'LITE' version and asked shooters to try it out and report any bugs and addressed each of them accordingly, I have no doubt guys would have an issue paying $30 for a FULL version.

Instead, he got in a rush in posting the application for sale, only for a short time later to see it fail. Now, he has a bunch of pissed off shooters who feel as though they've been taken. </div></div>

I totally agree with you.
 
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Anyone having any problems with the update?
 
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Where??? Iphone or itunes should tell you when there's an update. I even checked the site and the last one is dated 26 or 27th of June 2012.

Do you have a link or info on this new update?
 
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The update just came out on the 26th of June. What bugs did you find?
 
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I just went through mine and didn't find anything wrong with it. It kept my data and everything works.
 
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The price isn't that bad If the app is as well done and complete as it seems. Something like this would cost at least 50k to develop which has to be returned from a rather small niche in software terms.

Don't ask me how I know.
 
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this thing still has bugs in it.
As soon as I logged in and the app synced it installed like 8 different data books. the only one that i can do anything with is the very first one. The others when i chose them they just go to a blank page. This is one of the same issues I had when I first got this app.

So far from what I can tell, all the other issues have been fixed.

 
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The thing i wonder is why i can select metric as every data in the book stays in imperial? Not much impressed with this app.
 
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How so on the imperial? Mine is showing meters when selected. The yardage tracker you have to select meters on the actual page, but other than that it shows correctly.
 
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I think if you are using an iPhone ballistics app instead of PDA then this is definitely a great tool to have. But if not then I honestly would use paper data book.
 
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Last week I I entered a full days worth of shooting data including multiple targets in to the app. Yesterday I turned off my ipad for something else I was doing with it. Later I went back into this app and ALL my shooting data was gone, all of it except the rifle and ammo info one initially enters.
I've never trusted this app so I also have all my info in my real log book.
IME this app is useless. It would have been nice to have all my data stored digitally but I guess we'll have to wait for a new app to come around. It's a real shame.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rickp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Last week I I entered a full days worth of shooting data including multiple targets in to the app. Yesterday I turned off my ipad for something else I was doing with it. Later I went back into this app and ALL my shooting data was gone, all of it except the rifle and ammo info one initially enters.
I've never trusted this app so I also have all my info in my real log book.
IME this app is useless. It would have been nice to have all my data stored digitally but I guess we'll have to wait for a new app to come around. It's a real shame.</div></div>

Ballistic for iPad has a range log. See the bottom right corner.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rickp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Last week I I entered a full days worth of shooting data including multiple targets in to the app. Yesterday I turned off my ipad for something else I was doing with it. Later I went back into this app and ALL my shooting data was gone, all of it except the rifle and ammo info one initially enters.
I've never trusted this app so I also have all my info in my real log book.
IME this app is useless. It would have been nice to have all my data stored digitally but I guess we'll have to wait for a new app to come around. It's a real shame.</div></div>

Ballistic for iPad has a range log. See the bottom right corner.

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I'm not following, the app i was talking about was iDatabook. My Ballistic app works fine.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My point was, why not save all of your data in the ballistic app? </div></div>

Oh!!! Good question. I just never considered that, to be honest i never worked with that part of the app. I've only used the ballistic part and HUD.