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Suppressors .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

Hayli277

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I am trying to decide on a suppressor for my custom .300wm. I have read almost every post on this forum and on snipercentral. I havent been able to find anyone that has experience with 2 out of the 3 on a 300wm. Please dont reply with how wonderful they are on a .308 - it doesnt help, I dont shoot a .308 I shoot a 300 winchester magnum. If I was shooting a .308 I would buy the 30p-1 without hesitation.

Washington state is new to suppressor use. I want to be able to shoot without hearing protection and I have a #10 26" barrel, its heavy...

Pros - Cons

TigerShark - built specifically for the .300wm, probably the quietest but 50% heavier than the other two. not as sexy as the other two. great customer service.

30p-1 - built specifically for the .308 not the 300wm. but 'rated' to handle the magnum caliber, maybe inferior in performance to the TigerShark because of this and its size? very sexy. great customer service.

AAC 300-TM - built specifically for the .300wm, smallest/lightest, used by SF and the Teams (must be good.) super sexy. customer service has lots of opportunity but AAC has top notch quality assurance and their products have years of experience in the field - there really isnt a lot of comments about the 300-TM. its a threaded Mk13, it has to be among the best in quality and built for this specific caliber, no?

Thank you,
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

My vote would be the 300TM, basically because it's made for the 300's. It's 15oz and the dB rating is very good.

As for AAC's Costomer service, it was basically all resting on one guys shoulders and he had a lot of things to do. Now that they've hired some really good and knowledgeable guys to help Mike out, i think they're hitting a home run on both product and CS. Just my opinion. I'd have no hesitation on buy a product from them at all. They're good guys.

I've been looking at the 300tm quite a bit lately too, i can't find much info at all, other than the website. But it just came out new for 2012 and they should be going into production with a batch here pretty quick.

I can't help you on picking though but i wanted to keep this post going to get some info started.

xdeano
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">30p-1 - built specifically for the .308 not the 300wm. but 'rated' to handle the magnum caliber, maybe inferior in performance to the </div></div>
The 30P-1 and 30Ba have excellent performance on cartridges up to .300WM. We shoot it extensively on 7mm WSM/RM and .300WM. I usually recommend stepping up to the 338P-1 for .300RUM, but .300WM is definitely within the 30P-1's envelope for great performance.
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

Hayli,

This appears to be your first post, welcome to the Hide. I think you will see that a good number (many) people here have fired both rounds you mentioned in the cans you have listed out.

"Probably quietest" does not work for me. Though it is a fine can. "Sexy" is hard for me to define in this regard as well. If sexy has something to do with envelope features, you are missing at least one important suppressor altogether.
The 30p-1 is a world class can and holds it own against the others. If it is rated, it is rated. TBAC is a fine can for the .300wm.
The AAC is a monocore and therefor is off my list all together as no monocore can outperform a fully fashioned baffle face. I want my Ti core attached directly to the envelope (Ti) for heat radiation.

IMO, one would be wearing hearing protection when using these cans or you will be damaging your hearing as none of them (or any of the other I would add to your list) are quiet enough to be hearing safe in the .300wm.

Since you are particularly concerned about all things .308, perhaps looking at the .338 cans would distill things out better for you. All the .338 cans can be bored for .300wm as well. Some of them weigh less than some of the cans on your list.

Your list has you looking at high end cans. Your already listing cans that will do you well.

Good luck.
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

RollingThunder51,

What's wrong with a "monocore" or monolithic baffle stack, over a K-baffle?

I would think that you would have less of a problem with a one piece over several baffles that have to be fitting and welded together to form a stack. Precision is the key to the door here. the core is then welded to the outer tube to make it all one.

I do agree with you on a 338 can for that big 300wm. might be the ticket.

xdeano
 
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I would certainly agree, monocores come about in part as a means to produce the desired disruption and gas jet redirection without having to deal with the attachment of each "baffle" to the envelope. The issue is that the very equipment that can produce a monocore cannot access those same facings in a way to create the complex curvatures that are most effective and producing uniform disruption, forward purge and flow and, perhaps most importantly, heat transfer.

Xdeano, as you state, precision is the key, but its not just about the bore, its also about the disruption and dispersing the gas so that hot spots are avoided while dwell and distribution is maximized. Now you mention "the core is then welded to the outer tube" that is exactly correct and potentially the monocores greatest weakness from a thermodynamic standpoint. Getting that stack, that armature, to transfer heat efficiently to the envelope is best had by minimizing that structure to its most basic pieces. A baffle, fully welded to the envelope outperforms in regard to heat transfer. Welding is much stronger than many of the two point constructs (6 & 12) that we see in monocores. It is time consuming to weld, takes skill and costs much more. Even within welding itself there are issues as to the depth of the welding in some materials. K baffles would no longer properly described the current state of these baffels. The timing of just the bore redirects alone and what falls in their path at the next facing is more that a "K baffle" would imply.

Monocores have been around a very long time, some shops worked on them and set them aside based on their performance. There is very little new to be found with them. Do they have their place? Absolutely! It all depends on what one is looking for. If its precision accuracy, maximization of cooling, reduction in fowling, inherent strength, and (this is important) minimizing POI shift while maintaining maximum suppression, I prefer fully fashioned baffles. But as I said at the top, the cans under consideration already in this thread are at the top their class, well, imo....two are.

 
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Thanks a lot guys. This is all great info.

I know absolutely nothing about suppressors but I do know a lot of guys in the Teams. From listening to them talk about their training and experience in the field, I really dont think they pay much attention to what can they're using. Actually, I am certain they dont because a good friend of mine is a SEAL Sniper and when I ask him what can I should buy he has not a clue. Knowing this I can guarantee he has no idea what kind of baffle is inside, just that it works. Knowing this, and how many rounds these boys throw down range, I dont really care either. On the other hand, I dont have the ability to just toss a defective can and grab a new as easily. At least not without asking first.

None the less, still undecided.

Completely different subject. I was reading the "do it yourself forms" topic - my best friend is an attorney but is not experienced with the NFA business; does anyone have a copy of a trust I can give to him to use as template?
 
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I'd go with a TBAC, SAS or Elite Iron. You can't compare a aac can to those....

To be used on a 300WM, I'd go for a 338 rated can also.
 
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And another vote for TBAC. I run both TBAC 30p and/or 338ba on my AIAWM in 300wm and they are<span style="font-style: italic"> fine</span>.

I find the 338 can will go a few more shots before can heat mirage is an issue compared to the 30p when on the 300wm. Also, if I ever get another 338LM, I'm good to go. The weight and size difference is not an issue to me.
 
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Rollingthunder51,

I'm learning, thanks for the info. I have a 300TM coming so i'll see how it stacks up against my 762sd on several rifles. I think it should be find for my application, and I wouldn't count it out for the 300wm application either. Hell if it's made for it, use it. I'll also be able to compair the TM to a 260, 6SLR, 308, 6.5SLR, with a couple of the 30-P1's. I'm guessing it'll be pretty close, but they're also not a 300wm.

xdeano
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

Thank you for sharing .Your list has you looking at high end cans. Your already listing cans that will do you well.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GOLDBEACHMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And another vote for TBAC. I run both TBAC 30p and/or 338ba on my AIAWM in 300wm and they are<span style="font-style: italic"> fine</span>.

I find the 338 can will go a few more shots before can heat mirage is an issue compared to the 30p when on the 300wm. Also, if I ever get another 338LM, I'm good to go. The weight and size difference is not an issue to me.</div></div>

Goldbeachman! Thank you for the post! This is good stuff! So, if you were me, having used both TBAC's on a 300wm, and you have a heavyass bull barrel, which one would you go with? Is there a noticeable sound and recoil reduction with the 338p-1 compared to the 30p-1? Accuracy differences? Any experience with the TigerShark?

At this point I think I've decided against AAC for my first can...
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

I own and shoot a Shark Tiger Shark on my 300WM, as well as for my 260 Rem and AR's in 223 and blk out. Yes, it's bigger and heavier, and for good reason. The tube is thicker which handles the pressure better. His can also disipates heat better. We have put thermal imagers on multiple cans shooting the exact number of shots at the exact time intervals to see which heats up quicker and disipates heat faster. The Shark performed best in all areas. Plus, I do not get a POI shift with my Tiger Shark. IMO, Shark is the best can out there for these reasons. He might be more expensive, but you get what you pay for in this business (normally).
 
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I wouldn't discount the 300tm just because of what you're reading on here. Remember this is the internet and you have to take it with a grain of salt. AAC is attached to remington as you probably know, they've got a lot of history and backing. So they can put the R&D into a suppressor. They have to make a good product.

The way it looks with the new 300TM, they aren't spot welded to the outer tube, i'm guessing it's just welded around the caps.

You need to get a hold of some of the mfg's and ask them the questions before you rule any of these suppressors out. If you can, talk with a SOT to see if he's got any of these suppressors on hand and if you can shoot through them.

Take a look at dB rating, if they have them, and weight. these are the two basic things that i look at.

xdeano
 
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and accuracy....accuracy.....accuracy.....accuracy.....IMO, at this level of performance, the days of the heavy cans are over for all but heaviest of FA applications.
 
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RT51,

I totally agree. Accuracy is key!

Getting a can that has minimal POI shift from the can on and off, and any impact shift from a cold can to a warm can.

xdeano
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

Zero shift is nice, but do recognize that having repeatable, consistent shift and a good memory or accurate dope table is perfectly fine.

The most impressive POI shift is directly up (12) slightly as that suggests true boost, a good indication of tight bore and best possible gas strip. Anyone can take a poor can and overbore until POI shift disappears..
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

FWIW,

This past weekend we had the opportunity to compare the TBAC 30P-1 against the Shark.
On two identical 6mm BR rifles, the 30P1 is the hands down the better sounding suppressor.
Didn't check POI shift, but both were comparable in the accuracy department.

Interestingly, my 30P1 shooting 308 Win sounding identical to the 30P1 shooting 6mm BR.
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr. Phil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interestingly, my 30P1 shooting 308 Win sounding identical to the 30P1 shooting 6mm BR. </div></div>

That is interesting. The smaller bullet diam of the 6 vs the 308 and the lower powder charge of the BR make the 2 sound the same.

FWIW, I heard a Tigershark and a S.A.S. Arbiter on two identical 308's and they sounded the same to all the bystanders. They both sounded good. I guess I need some exposure to the 30P1. If the BATFE wasn't taking so long, I'd get one on the way.
 
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I've handled and shot the mono-core titan in .338LM, and it was very heavy, but it was a great sound performer.

If the .300 win mag can can match the sound performance, it is definitely much lighter being titanium. The mounting system would be the only remaining issue potentially there.

The 30P1 sounds like a great can and is light also.
 
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Why is this "can" consuming every spare minute of my life right now...

I think I will probably go with the 338p-1 if I go with TBAC.

I am still hoping to find someone who can compare against the 300TM and or the TigerShark.

The 300TM being new and chosen by our SF units is intriguing...
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

Never tried the others except for about 3 shots at 600 yds with the AAC, Tiger shark though has been accurate. Tuned my load to the rifle, bought can later down the road. No shift, never changed load, havent gotten to try past 750 yet but its all good out to there. See no reason why it wont do good farther out. Good luck
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

If you're going with a 338 can then take a look at the AAC Titan-Ti. It's light and has very good sound reduction.

Deciding on which can to get is a big decision.

xdeano
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hayli277</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The 300TM being new and chosen by our SF units is intriguing...
</div></div>

Just because the military choses to go with a particular weapon system or suppressor does not make them the best. There is a lot of politicking that goes on in the background while the military is soliciting for equipment.

I have an AAC M4-2000. The M4-2000 suppresses well and is well made, but the mounting system is terrible. Trying to find a mount that locks up solid with the suppressor is near impossible. Their newer 90 tooth mounts may be better than the 51 tooth mount, but it would still be a big concern for me.

I have a TBAC 30BA and 338BA. Honestly, the .338BA does everything the 30BA does and more. It also sounds slightly better to my ears when shooting .260 through either cans. If I could only have one suppressor for precision shooting it would be the 338BA.

Everyone that has heard my 338BA is impressed with how well it performs. Also, I have yet to hear anyone complain about their TBAC 30 caliber or 338 caliber suppressors.

Best of luck with your decision.
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

I think i have decided I to to go with a 338 can

Titan ti or QD
338p-1

Anyone able to compare?
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

I have the Shark Jaws Suppressor 338 Lapua. I took it to the range this weekend and a gentleman down the line from me thought i was shooting a 22Mag. Also my 110Lb girlfriend was shooting my 338Lapua AI with no complaints because of how well the Shark reduces recoil. I couldnt ask for more as far as accuracy is concerned. Shot my best group to date with my rifle with the Shark can attached.
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

For a precision gun, i'd stay away from the QD cans. There is nothing wrong with them, but i've gone through the QD stage and for my application it's not advantageous. It's Tackticool if you ask me. Plus it adds to the cost of the suppressor having to buy all the extra muzzle breaks.

Take a look at the numbers. They're both great companies.

Same price, but the Titan is shorter and lighter, but not by much.

I would go with the guys who stand by their product for the life of the can. That's AAC! What kind of warranty does TBA have?

xdeano
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

We have a solid warranty. You can read the details but it basically comes down to, if it's your fault, we'll fix at cost. If it's our fault, we'll make it right.

The owners of TBAC have been shooting precision rifles, competing, and running matches for this community since well before we started making cans. We're in it for the long haul.
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xdeano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I would go with the guys who stand by their product for the life of the can. That's AAC! What kind of warranty does TBA have?

xdeano</div></div>

Nigga please, from Thunderbeast's website:


<span style="color: #3333FF">WARRANTY
LIFETIME WARRANTY:
Thunder Beast Arms Corporation (TBAC) will repair or replace (at its option) free of charge any product manufactured by TBAC for the duration of this lifetime warranty. This warranty is of unlimited duration and covers service, repair, and/or replacement of the TBAC product damaged during normal use and conditions. This warranty guarantees our products to be free from defects in workmanship and materials.
</span>
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

When AAC offers a program to upgrade their 51T cans to tapered 90T, even at user's cost, I would then say that they stand behind their products.
 
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That good to know Zak! I wasn't quite sure, but I figured you'd have something similar. I ran through your site but couldn't find anything really quick so that's why i posted the question. I know your cans are gtg, i've got a few friends and coworkers that have them and they are very pleased. I've shot with a couple of them now and i'm impressed as well.

I'm glad you stand behind your products also.

xdeano
 
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d00d,

I'm sure to upgrade you from the 51 to 90, you'll have to pay the stamp and wait 6 months. Give them a call. You never know.

xdeano
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RyeDaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xdeano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I would go with the guys who stand by their product for the life of the can. That's AAC! What kind of warranty does TBA have?

xdeano</div></div>

Nigga please, from Thunderbeast's website:


<span style="color: #3333FF">WARRANTY


LIFETIME WARRANTY:
Thunder Beast Arms Corporation (TBAC) will repair or replace (at its option) free of charge any product manufactured by TBAC for the duration of this lifetime warranty. This warranty is of unlimited duration and covers service, repair, and/or replacement of the TBAC product damaged during normal use and conditions. This warranty guarantees our products to be free from defects in workmanship and materials.
</span> </div></div>

I wasn't bashing bitch! I was stating a question for an answer.
xdeano
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xdeano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">d00d,

I'm sure to upgrade you from the 51 to 90, you'll have to pay the stamp and wait 6 months. Give them a call. You never know.

xdeano </div></div>They don't currently offer this service, and if they did a new stamp wouldn't be required.
That's only needed to rebuild a can with an unreadable serial number, or for length, diameter, or caliber changes.
 
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I know what the rules are. But i believe if they were able to do the service, they wouldn't rebuild the can, they'd just give you a new can. It would be more hassle then what it's worth to cut the bottom off and weld on a new one. So yeah you would have to pay another tax stamp and wait 6 months. But, my guess they won't upgrade you for free just because you want the 90T mount. If your suppressor mounts up and stays locked into place and it still shoots then it's not part of the warranty. That would only apply if it were a factory defect in the part or something like that. Wouldn't hurt to talk with someone over at AAC because i don't know all the warranty stuff.

Sorry, we're a little off topic here.

I'd say flip a coin to go with either suppressor company, you won't go wrong with either of them.

xdeano
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xdeano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know what the rules are. But i believe if they were able to do the service, they wouldn't rebuild the can, they'd just give you a new can. It would be more hassle then what it's worth to cut the bottom off and weld on a new one. So yeah you would have to pay another tax stamp and wait 6 months. But, my guess they won't upgrade you for free just because you want the 90T mount. If your suppressor mounts up and stays locked into place and it still shoots then it's not part of the warranty. That would only apply if it were a factory defect in the part or something like that. Wouldn't hurt to talk with someone over at AAC because i don't know all the warranty stuff.

Sorry, we're a little off topic here.

I'd say flip a coin to go with either suppressor company, you won't go wrong with either of them.

xdeano

</div></div>AWC will upgrade my seventeen year old model to the latest Raider for a somewhat reasonable $400 and no stamp, and that involves removing the core and end caps.
Replacing the mount and blast chamber is within the realm of possibility for AAC.
I consider the 51T to be a design defect in that for a given unit there's a significant chance that it won't mount solid.
Ok, I'll drop the subject now...
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We have a solid warranty. You can read the details but it basically comes down to, if it's your fault, we'll fix at cost. If it's our fault, we'll make it right.

The owners of TBAC have been shooting precision rifles, competing, and running matches for this community since well before we started making cans. We're in it for the long haul. </div></div>

Rock on airborne, I'll be picking mine up from Scott this week while in Dallas. Woohoo.
 
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d00d,

Well then quit bitching on the board about your suppressor and call AAC.

xdeano
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

I don't own a 51T suppressor, I'm just offering some commentary on the industry from an Engineer's perspective, no bitchiness involved.
 
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From what i've heard is the 51t mount can be sloppy. But if you twist it on hard it'll lock up just fine. If you were to wear out the latch, just send it in and they'll replace the latch, just don't let the latch grind against the teeth and it won't wear out.

I have the 762sd with the 18T mount, so i have no influence on the c-clips that hold the suppressor in place. I've sent mine in several times and they've replaced the clips. No problem. They ship it back to me inside of the week that i send it in.

xdeano
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xdeano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From what i've heard is the 51t mount can be sloppy. But if you twist it on hard it'll lock up just fine. If you were to wear out the latch, just send it in and they'll replace the latch, just don't let the latch grind against the teeth and it won't wear out.

I have the 762sd with the 18T mount, so i have no influence on the c-clips that hold the suppressor in place. I've sent mine in several times and they've replaced the clips. No problem. They ship it back to me inside of the week that i send it in.

xdeano </div></div>

The 51 tooth mounts are sloppy. I have found that even when you crank on them hard they will back off to the next locking tooth, which in my experience causes major accuracy issues.

The latch on my M4-2000 is fine. The issue with nearly every mount that I have purchased or tried out, is the timing of the latch compared to the teeth on the flash hider. In my experience, the 51 tooth mount has major design issues.
 
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Go with a thread on can for precision guns. That's all i'm going to say about it. Definitely for the 300win.

xdeano
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

Decided to go with the AAC 300-TM... I spoke with AAC about using the Titan Ti 338 can for a 300wm and they stated it would be over kill and would not provide any added benefit over the 300TM. They also stated a direct thread-on is a better choice over any QD for a precision set-up.

I will have my SOT (NFA 03) in the mail in a few weeks - PM me if you want to jump on the order.
 
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Ive never done an nfa transfer through him myself but i have spoken to him on the phone several times. Hes a good guy. I wouldnt have any problems dealing with him. I have had several people that i know go through him and have been very pleased.
Xdeano
 
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Yeah, I agree, he seems to be a good dude. Have you heard anything about his Dakota suppressors?
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

I have not seen or heard his suppressors. So i can't comment on them at all. I know he's one of very few SOT's in this state to buy from.

xdeano
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hayli,

This appears to be your first post, welcome to the Hide. I think you will see that a good number (many) people here have fired both rounds you mentioned in the cans you have listed out.

"Probably quietest" does not work for me. Though it is a fine can. "Sexy" is hard for me to define in this regard as well. If sexy has something to do with envelope features, you are missing at least one important suppressor altogether.
The 30p-1 is a world class can and holds it own against the others. If it is rated, it is rated. TBAC is a fine can for the .300wm.
The AAC is a monocore and therefor is off my list all together as no monocore can outperform a fully fashioned baffle face. I want my Ti core attached directly to the envelope (Ti) for heat radiation.

IMO, one would be wearing hearing protection when using these cans or you will be damaging your hearing as none of them (or any of the other I would add to your list) are quiet enough to be hearing safe in the .300wm.

Since you are particularly concerned about all things .308, perhaps looking at the .338 cans would distill things out better for you. All the .338 cans can be bored for .300wm as well. Some of them weigh less than some of the cans on your list.

Your list has you looking at high end cans. Your already listing cans that will do you well.

Good luck. </div></div>

this is what id do, since the 300wm is already kind of up there in terms of a 30 cal cans range, i would just make the jump to the larger volume 338 can. the 338p-1 is the way that i would go.

from your choices though, i would go with the 30p-1. the tigershark is just as much as the TBAC 338p-1 is.
 
Re: .300wm - TigerShark - 30p-1 - 300TM

I am purchasing a TBA 30P-1 in a couple of weeks for a new GAP 260 build. Are there better precision suppressors out there? I doubt it, if anything there are several of the better cans that are all pretty close. I see it as the same as the top rifle builders, they all are good and you will be happy with any of them.

The reason I am going with Thunder Beast is simple...great product, Zak is a great guy who is a no bs guy. I like the fact that he just doesn't list some dB rating on his cans to sell them. He actually explains that there are variables to actual performance. Also his priority is repeatable precision with his cans which for a bolt gun is the primary focus. Name another suppressor company that you can email the owner (Zak) and he will respond to you in a matter of minutes and give you no bs feed back, not just a marketing line. Bottom line is when you can buy a top notch product with the backing of guys like Zak why would you buy anything else?

Just because a company like AAC is owned by Remington (I have an M4-2000) doesn't make them better, in fact the big companies at times produce products that make them more profitable but not necessarily better. It can at times become all about their stock value. Buy a Thunder Beast made by shooters for shooters!

DT