I'm looking at a NF NXS 8-32x56mm. Will 65moa internal adjustment plus a 20moa base get a 175gr. .308 out to 1000 yards? What is 65moa in mils? If it will get me there, how much elevation would I have leftover at 1000?
Rifle Scopes Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
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Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
So 65 moa, means 32.5 up and down, then use the base and that gives you roughly 52.5 moa useable elevation. But due to needing some adjustment to get a zero then assume you have about 47.5 moa available for use.
Now, go use your favorite ballistics program and see if 47.5 moa will get you to 1k.
(I'll give you a hint.....you should be fine, just don't use 168's)
http://bit.ly/L9S9Gz
So 65 moa, means 32.5 up and down, then use the base and that gives you roughly 52.5 moa useable elevation. But due to needing some adjustment to get a zero then assume you have about 47.5 moa available for use.
Now, go use your favorite ballistics program and see if 47.5 moa will get you to 1k.
(I'll give you a hint.....you should be fine, just don't use 168's)
http://bit.ly/L9S9Gz
Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
sawman 556,
Assuming you are in the center of your elevation range, you will have 32.5 MOA up and down. The 20 MOA base will give you 52.5 MOA up and 12.5 MOA down. More than enough for 1000 yards. A mil is equal to 3.438 MOA. With the 20 MOA base, you will have just over 15 MILS of elevation up and just over 3.5 MILS down. Hope this helps.
Tim
sawman 556,
Assuming you are in the center of your elevation range, you will have 32.5 MOA up and down. The 20 MOA base will give you 52.5 MOA up and 12.5 MOA down. More than enough for 1000 yards. A mil is equal to 3.438 MOA. With the 20 MOA base, you will have just over 15 MILS of elevation up and just over 3.5 MILS down. Hope this helps.
Tim
Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sawman556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is 65moa in mils?</div></div>
17.7 mil-rad
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sawman556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it will get me there, how much elevation would I have leftover at 1000?
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You will not know for sure until you zero your rifle. Use a 20-moa base and you are good to go.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sawman556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is 65moa in mils?</div></div>
17.7 mil-rad
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sawman556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it will get me there, how much elevation would I have leftover at 1000?
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You will not know for sure until you zero your rifle. Use a 20-moa base and you are good to go.
Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
Respectfully, 65 MOA is equal to 18.9 MILS.
Tim
Respectfully, 65 MOA is equal to 18.9 MILS.
Tim
Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
Sorry I wasn't completely clear on my answer earlier. I was giving the total amount of adjustment of the scope in mils, not converting the measurement. The way the Nightforce is designed, the amount of adjustment will differ from the moa to the mil version.
Sorry I wasn't completely clear on my answer earlier. I was giving the total amount of adjustment of the scope in mils, not converting the measurement. The way the Nightforce is designed, the amount of adjustment will differ from the moa to the mil version.
Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
Thanks guys. I want the extra power but I'm skeptical about the elevation. I might go with 5.5x22 and pick up a Sightron 8x32 down the road. I also really don't want a 56mm objective. I have $2300 to spend. Is there anything else that I should look at? I don't need FFP. I do want illumation. Something close to 25x would be nice. I had a Razor and sold it. I never took it off 20x and the FFP bothers me for some reason. 25x, good glass, good internal elevation, illumination, 50mm obj, 30-34mm tube, $2300. What are my options?
Thanks guys. I want the extra power but I'm skeptical about the elevation. I might go with 5.5x22 and pick up a Sightron 8x32 down the road. I also really don't want a 56mm objective. I have $2300 to spend. Is there anything else that I should look at? I don't need FFP. I do want illumation. Something close to 25x would be nice. I had a Razor and sold it. I never took it off 20x and the FFP bothers me for some reason. 25x, good glass, good internal elevation, illumination, 50mm obj, 30-34mm tube, $2300. What are my options?
Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
it will work.
I have a Vortex Viper 6-20 that has 65moa. I used a 20moa base on my 308. Got to 1000yd in 41moa (it was cold), no problems
it will work.
I have a Vortex Viper 6-20 that has 65moa. I used a 20moa base on my 308. Got to 1000yd in 41moa (it was cold), no problems
Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sawman556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks guys. I want the extra power but I'm skeptical about the elevation. I might go with 5.5x22 and pick up a Sightron 8x32 down the road. I also really don't want a 56mm objective. I have $2300 to spend. Is there anything else that I should look at? I don't need FFP. I do want illumation. Something close to 25x would be nice. I had a Razor and sold it. I never took it off 20x and the FFP bothers me for some reason. 25x, good glass, good internal elevation, illumination, 50mm obj, 30-34mm tube, $2300. What are my options? </div></div>
For the money, a 5.5-22x50 NXS is going to be hard to beat. You're going to spend a LOT of money to get that extra 3x. I loved mine, but had the opposite problem of you. I *HAD* to have FFP.
John
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sawman556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks guys. I want the extra power but I'm skeptical about the elevation. I might go with 5.5x22 and pick up a Sightron 8x32 down the road. I also really don't want a 56mm objective. I have $2300 to spend. Is there anything else that I should look at? I don't need FFP. I do want illumation. Something close to 25x would be nice. I had a Razor and sold it. I never took it off 20x and the FFP bothers me for some reason. 25x, good glass, good internal elevation, illumination, 50mm obj, 30-34mm tube, $2300. What are my options? </div></div>
For the money, a 5.5-22x50 NXS is going to be hard to beat. You're going to spend a LOT of money to get that extra 3x. I loved mine, but had the opposite problem of you. I *HAD* to have FFP.
John
Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sawman556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks guys. I want the extra power but I'm skeptical about the elevation. I might go with 5.5x22 and pick up a Sightron 8x32 down the road. I also really don't want a 56mm objective. I have $2300 to spend. Is there anything else that I should look at? I don't need FFP. I do want illumation. Something close to 25x would be nice. I had a Razor and sold it. I never took it off 20x and the FFP bothers me for some reason. 25x, good glass, good internal elevation, illumination, 50mm obj, 30-34mm tube, $2300. What are my options? </div></div>
I have a NF BR 8-32x56 (50 MOA of internal travel) and on my 308 it only would zero to 500yds. Beyond that I needed holdovers. Once I put a NF 25 MOA base on, everything ran very well.
I don't know about where you are, but here in GA I rarely got to use the 32x power on my scope due to mirage issues. I almost always had it at around 20-25x.
Really if you don't need/want FFP, the NF 5.5-22x will be your best bet in my opinion.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sawman556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks guys. I want the extra power but I'm skeptical about the elevation. I might go with 5.5x22 and pick up a Sightron 8x32 down the road. I also really don't want a 56mm objective. I have $2300 to spend. Is there anything else that I should look at? I don't need FFP. I do want illumation. Something close to 25x would be nice. I had a Razor and sold it. I never took it off 20x and the FFP bothers me for some reason. 25x, good glass, good internal elevation, illumination, 50mm obj, 30-34mm tube, $2300. What are my options? </div></div>
I have a NF BR 8-32x56 (50 MOA of internal travel) and on my 308 it only would zero to 500yds. Beyond that I needed holdovers. Once I put a NF 25 MOA base on, everything ran very well.
I don't know about where you are, but here in GA I rarely got to use the 32x power on my scope due to mirage issues. I almost always had it at around 20-25x.
Really if you don't need/want FFP, the NF 5.5-22x will be your best bet in my opinion.
Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
How about the Viper PST? About the same elevation adjustment as the 8-32 Nightforce but less than half the price.
http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44563.aspx
How about the Viper PST? About the same elevation adjustment as the 8-32 Nightforce but less than half the price.
http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44563.aspx
Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Halcyon575</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Really if you don't need/want FFP, the NF 5.5-22x will be your best bet in my opinion. </div></div>
I ended up ordering the NF 5.5-22x50 with MLR reticle. It should be here by Monday or so.
Thanks for the help ya'll.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Halcyon575</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Really if you don't need/want FFP, the NF 5.5-22x will be your best bet in my opinion. </div></div>
I ended up ordering the NF 5.5-22x50 with MLR reticle. It should be here by Monday or so.
Thanks for the help ya'll.
Re: Will 65MOA get you out to 1000???
Run the numbers yourself
http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi
Run the numbers yourself
http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi
