I see where it says not to try someone elses reloads in your rifle but i was going to try and find someone to reload for me.... Is this a terrible idea?
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Re: getting someone to reload????
That depends on who you ask. I bought some reloads at gun shop that the owner loaded. It was the most accurate stuff I ever shot till I started reloading myself. The first question I'd ask is, why you want someone to reload for you? That would impact my answer.
That depends on who you ask. I bought some reloads at gun shop that the owner loaded. It was the most accurate stuff I ever shot till I started reloading myself. The first question I'd ask is, why you want someone to reload for you? That would impact my answer.
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I want some long range loads... I want them to reload to have better accuracy. I have a 300wsm fn herstal spr and id like to see what it can do...
I want some long range loads... I want them to reload to have better accuracy. I have a 300wsm fn herstal spr and id like to see what it can do...
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I also reload for the 300 WSM and it can do good things.
Now for long range accuracy it means a very good made round and requires a lot of tuning ,
You will have to drop the rifle to whom is going to reload for it , by saying that it has to be some one you trust.
Start saving your fire form brass ( brass used from your rifle ) since this would save time on the process.
Good luck.
I also reload for the 300 WSM and it can do good things.
Now for long range accuracy it means a very good made round and requires a lot of tuning ,
You will have to drop the rifle to whom is going to reload for it , by saying that it has to be some one you trust.
Start saving your fire form brass ( brass used from your rifle ) since this would save time on the process.
Good luck.
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I have been saving them, i just gotta find someone who reloads, and that i trust, lol... But thanks
I have been saving them, i just gotta find someone who reloads, and that i trust, lol... But thanks
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Then someone you trust and detail oriented would be the two biggest factors. You could buy a few reloading books, supplies, and a single stage far easier in my opinion, but I'm a picky sob.
Then someone you trust and detail oriented would be the two biggest factors. You could buy a few reloading books, supplies, and a single stage far easier in my opinion, but I'm a picky sob.
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selling reloads also requires a ammunition manufacturer's ffl.... so most people you'd find would actually be breaking the law... not to mention that there are very few people I'd really trust
selling reloads also requires a ammunition manufacturer's ffl.... so most people you'd find would actually be breaking the law... not to mention that there are very few people I'd really trust
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I had thought about that, i was scared to put this up at first thanks for the info...
I had thought about that, i was scared to put this up at first thanks for the info...
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I have been reloading for a bunch of my friends, they bring the components and a recipe and we have an evening of putting together some good stuff on my equipment.
I have been reloading for a bunch of my friends, they bring the components and a recipe and we have an evening of putting together some good stuff on my equipment.
Re: getting someone to reload????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gotta/start/sumwer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah ive been wanting to, i think thats what im going to do. </div></div>
Careful amigo ,be aware this is how we all started on reloading !!!!!!!
Have you heard how people says , if you don't play golf, don't start unless you know how addicted it can be.
Guess what reloading is worst , but there is a lot of friendly guys on this sport.
I'm new to this forum but I've seen lots of good gentleman willing to help when you decided to departure on this very rewarding hobby.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gotta/start/sumwer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah ive been wanting to, i think thats what im going to do. </div></div>
Careful amigo ,be aware this is how we all started on reloading !!!!!!!
Have you heard how people says , if you don't play golf, don't start unless you know how addicted it can be.
Guess what reloading is worst , but there is a lot of friendly guys on this sport.
I'm new to this forum but I've seen lots of good gentleman willing to help when you decided to departure on this very rewarding hobby.
Re: getting someone to reload????
Also there is this factory ammo that uses Berger vld bullets that has probed to be excellent on long range shooting on game.
Cabelas has the HSM not sure on the other one , look in to the link
http://www.bergerbullets.com/Dealer%20Locator/Loaded%20Ammo.html
Also there is this gage from hornady that enables you to fix the RUN OUT of factory or reloaded ammo.
100% recommended.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgjk-zoW-WU
Also there is this factory ammo that uses Berger vld bullets that has probed to be excellent on long range shooting on game.
Cabelas has the HSM not sure on the other one , look in to the link
http://www.bergerbullets.com/Dealer%20Locator/Loaded%20Ammo.html
Also there is this gage from hornady that enables you to fix the RUN OUT of factory or reloaded ammo.
100% recommended.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgjk-zoW-WU
Re: getting someone to reload????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Force_Multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">selling reloads also requires a ammunition manufacturer's ffl.... so most people you'd find would actually be breaking the law... not to mention that there are very few people I'd really trust </div></div>
This.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Force_Multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">selling reloads also requires a ammunition manufacturer's ffl.... so most people you'd find would actually be breaking the law... not to mention that there are very few people I'd really trust </div></div>
This.
Re: getting someone to reload????
I would just get a press and the other necessary items to reload and start loading your own.
Nothing more satisfying than having your own loads shoot tiny groups.
I would just get a press and the other necessary items to reload and start loading your own.
Nothing more satisfying than having your own loads shoot tiny groups.
Re: getting someone to reload????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: recarga</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gotta/start/sumwer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah ive been wanting to, i think thats what im going to do. </div></div>
Careful amigo ,be aware this is how we all started on reloading !!!!!!!
Have you heard how people says , if you don't play golf, don't start unless you know how addicted it can be.
Guess what reloading is worst , but there is a lot of friendly guys on this sport.
I'm new to this forum but I've seen lots of good gentleman willing to help when you decided to departure on this very rewarding hobby.
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Shhhh! You weren't supposed to tell him that! Truth is I got into reloading in exactly this way! I asked one of the "old guys" at my range to load me up some match loads for my AR. It was his talking about needing to spend some time with my rifle and "get to know her first" that prompted me into buying my first reloading book. That is by far the most expensive (and rewarding) book I have ever bought!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: recarga</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gotta/start/sumwer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah ive been wanting to, i think thats what im going to do. </div></div>
Careful amigo ,be aware this is how we all started on reloading !!!!!!!
Have you heard how people says , if you don't play golf, don't start unless you know how addicted it can be.
Guess what reloading is worst , but there is a lot of friendly guys on this sport.
I'm new to this forum but I've seen lots of good gentleman willing to help when you decided to departure on this very rewarding hobby.
</div></div>
Shhhh! You weren't supposed to tell him that! Truth is I got into reloading in exactly this way! I asked one of the "old guys" at my range to load me up some match loads for my AR. It was his talking about needing to spend some time with my rifle and "get to know her first" that prompted me into buying my first reloading book. That is by far the most expensive (and rewarding) book I have ever bought!
Re: getting someone to reload????
Just get a single stage press and go for it. You'll be so happy you did. It just isn't that hard.
Just get a single stage press and go for it. You'll be so happy you did. It just isn't that hard.
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I will never handload for someone else. Baring the legal aspects; anybody that would want to pay someone else to do the job will also be unappreciative of the effort I put into doing the man a huge favor. Therefore, I expect "him" to say, "I paid him $X and my groups shrank only half; big deal" <sigh>
BB
I will never handload for someone else. Baring the legal aspects; anybody that would want to pay someone else to do the job will also be unappreciative of the effort I put into doing the man a huge favor. Therefore, I expect "him" to say, "I paid him $X and my groups shrank only half; big deal" <sigh>
BB
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he is a vendor here, and makes some VERY accurate ammo
http://www.mccourtmunitionsllc.com/
he is a vendor here, and makes some VERY accurate ammo
http://www.mccourtmunitionsllc.com/
Re: getting someone to reload????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gotta/start/sumwer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see where it says not to try someone elses reloads in your rifle but i was going to try and find someone to reload for me.... Is this a terrible idea? </div></div>
where you at in s.w.VA?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gotta/start/sumwer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see where it says not to try someone elses reloads in your rifle but i was going to try and find someone to reload for me.... Is this a terrible idea? </div></div>
where you at in s.w.VA?
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Reloading isn't hard but it is time consuming. If you have a bad attention to detail, you might want to leave the reloading alone. Otherwise you will learn a lot about your gun. We reload, not to save money, but to get our guns to perform their best.
Reloading isn't hard but it is time consuming. If you have a bad attention to detail, you might want to leave the reloading alone. Otherwise you will learn a lot about your gun. We reload, not to save money, but to get our guns to perform their best.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reloading isn't hard but it is time consuming. </div></div>
Only to get started. Once you know what you are doing I don't think it consumes much time at all, depending on what you are trying to accomplish. I typically divide up case prep and charging/seating. So an hour here and an hour there for these steps and one can easily turn out 50-100 good loads in a few hours' time. I think the work up stage is what takes some time -- figuring out the parameters you want (ogive, COAL, charge weight, etc.) -- but once you go into production mode it goes fast. And there is equipment that will help, like an auto charge scale (e.g., Charge Master) and auto case prep stations. At the end of the day, it depends on how detailed you are going to be (e.g., sorting by bullet weight, ogive, etc.). Many folks don't strive for the nth degree of detail and not doing so does not affect the accuracy they are capable of achieving. Heck, look at all the threads that poo poo primer pocket cleaning yet most folks (including me) spend time cleaning, uniforming, deburring and yet I am dubious as to whether it has any effect on my shooting.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reloading isn't hard but it is time consuming. </div></div>
Only to get started. Once you know what you are doing I don't think it consumes much time at all, depending on what you are trying to accomplish. I typically divide up case prep and charging/seating. So an hour here and an hour there for these steps and one can easily turn out 50-100 good loads in a few hours' time. I think the work up stage is what takes some time -- figuring out the parameters you want (ogive, COAL, charge weight, etc.) -- but once you go into production mode it goes fast. And there is equipment that will help, like an auto charge scale (e.g., Charge Master) and auto case prep stations. At the end of the day, it depends on how detailed you are going to be (e.g., sorting by bullet weight, ogive, etc.). Many folks don't strive for the nth degree of detail and not doing so does not affect the accuracy they are capable of achieving. Heck, look at all the threads that poo poo primer pocket cleaning yet most folks (including me) spend time cleaning, uniforming, deburring and yet I am dubious as to whether it has any effect on my shooting.
Re: getting someone to reload????
There are a few places that do custom loads. But to get it tuned to your rifle, you really need to do it yourself. Consistency in a load is more important if you ask me than anything else, so weighing each and every component of every load is paramount. This takes time. I'd advise to look into how the Marines load their ammo for their marksmanship unit. It is on "How it's Made" or some show like that; you could find it if intersted enough. That kind of care and customization can only be found in your own basement or for a pretty penny. You neighbor probably isn't the guy to trust, regardless of how adept he is. I wouldn't trust someone even if knew they were better than me.
I wouldn't trust someone else's reloads for one reason: I have loaded a lot before that had a load with no or little powder. Just enough power to stick the bullet in the barrel. Had to pull the whole 1000 and I found one more. This was when I first started years ago.
I am very careful, even moreso now, but accidents can happen.
The other thing is liability. Where I might trade some of my target loads, I'd be very hesitant to do it on a regular basis. Then you kind of become a distributor, if only to one person, and sort of take on a responsibility. Now those places that do custom loads, they are very pricey, but it is because of the custom nature and the fact they are insured.
You can get a decent loading kit for about the price of 100 custom loads I'd guess, those custom loads are very expensive. Loading is also fun in its own respect, quiet and thoughtful. You can also work up loads as you see fit, and there are near infinite combinations of powder, bullet and recipe. Because you are loading quality over quantity, the single stage simple setup is all you really need. I still use the single stage that I got over a decade ago; I did get a digital dispenser but it wasn't essential.
I get sub-MOA on my 6.5 Grendel, .33" group was my best, just one ragged hole at 100m. The rifle is damn nice, but the loads are where the magic happens.
I can't stress enough how nice it is to have your own loads.
There are a few places that do custom loads. But to get it tuned to your rifle, you really need to do it yourself. Consistency in a load is more important if you ask me than anything else, so weighing each and every component of every load is paramount. This takes time. I'd advise to look into how the Marines load their ammo for their marksmanship unit. It is on "How it's Made" or some show like that; you could find it if intersted enough. That kind of care and customization can only be found in your own basement or for a pretty penny. You neighbor probably isn't the guy to trust, regardless of how adept he is. I wouldn't trust someone even if knew they were better than me.
I wouldn't trust someone else's reloads for one reason: I have loaded a lot before that had a load with no or little powder. Just enough power to stick the bullet in the barrel. Had to pull the whole 1000 and I found one more. This was when I first started years ago.
I am very careful, even moreso now, but accidents can happen.
The other thing is liability. Where I might trade some of my target loads, I'd be very hesitant to do it on a regular basis. Then you kind of become a distributor, if only to one person, and sort of take on a responsibility. Now those places that do custom loads, they are very pricey, but it is because of the custom nature and the fact they are insured.
You can get a decent loading kit for about the price of 100 custom loads I'd guess, those custom loads are very expensive. Loading is also fun in its own respect, quiet and thoughtful. You can also work up loads as you see fit, and there are near infinite combinations of powder, bullet and recipe. Because you are loading quality over quantity, the single stage simple setup is all you really need. I still use the single stage that I got over a decade ago; I did get a digital dispenser but it wasn't essential.
I get sub-MOA on my 6.5 Grendel, .33" group was my best, just one ragged hole at 100m. The rifle is damn nice, but the loads are where the magic happens.
I can't stress enough how nice it is to have your own loads.
Re: getting someone to reload????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gotta/start/sumwer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see where it says not to try someone elses reloads in your rifle but i was going to try and find someone to reload for me.... Is this a terrible idea? </div></div>
Finding someone to teach you the ropes of reloading is an excellent idea. Finding someone to do your reloading for you is a very poor idea, for a variety of reasons (many legal).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gotta/start/sumwer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see where it says not to try someone elses reloads in your rifle but i was going to try and find someone to reload for me.... Is this a terrible idea? </div></div>
Finding someone to teach you the ropes of reloading is an excellent idea. Finding someone to do your reloading for you is a very poor idea, for a variety of reasons (many legal).
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You can find most of the pieces needed to reload used, check Craigslist and maybe eBay. Although there aren't the deals on eBay there once was. Items like the press, dies, and powder throw don't wear out. The only thing I would buy new would be a scale. Most of the reloading data books, will give you basic steps involved.
As for learning how to reload, it so easy its scary. You just need a basic understanding on how to adjust the dies and what the adjustments do. I'll do this, If there's anyone in the Denver area thats wants to learn PM me and I'll help you through the stages.
You can find most of the pieces needed to reload used, check Craigslist and maybe eBay. Although there aren't the deals on eBay there once was. Items like the press, dies, and powder throw don't wear out. The only thing I would buy new would be a scale. Most of the reloading data books, will give you basic steps involved.
As for learning how to reload, it so easy its scary. You just need a basic understanding on how to adjust the dies and what the adjustments do. I'll do this, If there's anyone in the Denver area thats wants to learn PM me and I'll help you through the stages.
Re: getting someone to reload????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Strykervet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't trust someone else's reloads for one reason: I have loaded a lot before that had a load with no or little powder. Just enough power to stick the bullet in the barrel. Had to pull the whole 1000 and I found one more. This was when I first started years ago. </div></div>
Very scary. Good thing you didn't send another round after the squib. Usually results in your gun blowing up in your face.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Strykervet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't trust someone else's reloads for one reason: I have loaded a lot before that had a load with no or little powder. Just enough power to stick the bullet in the barrel. Had to pull the whole 1000 and I found one more. This was when I first started years ago. </div></div>
Very scary. Good thing you didn't send another round after the squib. Usually results in your gun blowing up in your face.
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If they know what they are doing and label everything and you give them your rifle to work the loads up themselves or are there with you when you shoot each round as they work up a load and you educate the owner of the rifle on the dos and don'ts of handloads then i think it is fine.
I reload for my friend all the time. His .308, But i am always at the range when shooting a new load and i pull the trigger so i am there to see the results, feel the results and over look everything for any signs of pressure ect...
But once i get a good load i have no problem loading him up 60 rounds and he can do what he wants with them. They are tried and trued out of his gun, his brass, safer than some of that store bought crap IMO,
But there is a right and a wrong way of doing it
If they know what they are doing and label everything and you give them your rifle to work the loads up themselves or are there with you when you shoot each round as they work up a load and you educate the owner of the rifle on the dos and don'ts of handloads then i think it is fine.
I reload for my friend all the time. His .308, But i am always at the range when shooting a new load and i pull the trigger so i am there to see the results, feel the results and over look everything for any signs of pressure ect...
But once i get a good load i have no problem loading him up 60 rounds and he can do what he wants with them. They are tried and trued out of his gun, his brass, safer than some of that store bought crap IMO,
But there is a right and a wrong way of doing it
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I'm not sure this has been addressed? My personal attitude is that those that do not handload are simply not knowledgeable about their sport. I know thousands of varmint hunters and they invariably load their own ammunition.
These guys can quote velocities, know their exact load and everything about it, bullet, primer seating depth, tight neck stuff and numerous other facts that contribute to a shooter's over all fund of knowledge. These people that only shoot factory ammunition are completely lost in these conversations, as are those that have someone else do the work for then.
If you want to know what's going on, there is no substitute for studying the art of handloading and getting all knowed up. BB
I'm not sure this has been addressed? My personal attitude is that those that do not handload are simply not knowledgeable about their sport. I know thousands of varmint hunters and they invariably load their own ammunition.
These guys can quote velocities, know their exact load and everything about it, bullet, primer seating depth, tight neck stuff and numerous other facts that contribute to a shooter's over all fund of knowledge. These people that only shoot factory ammunition are completely lost in these conversations, as are those that have someone else do the work for then.
If you want to know what's going on, there is no substitute for studying the art of handloading and getting all knowed up. BB
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BuzzBoss915</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not sure this has been addressed? My personal attitude is that those that do not handload are simply not knowledgeable about their sport. I know thousands of varmint hunters and they invariably load their own ammunition.
These guys can quote velocities, know their exact load and everything about it, bullet, primer seating depth, tight neck stuff and numerous other facts that contribute to a shooter's over all fund of knowledge. These people that only shoot factory ammunition are completely lost in these conversations, as are those that have someone else do the work for then.
If you want to know what's going on, there is no substitute for studying the art of handloading and getting all knowed up. BB </div></div>
Wow...someone climbed onto the assumption train and left the station...very uneducated, subjective one-sided response. But hey...it's youre "attitude"?...opinion.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BuzzBoss915</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not sure this has been addressed? My personal attitude is that those that do not handload are simply not knowledgeable about their sport. I know thousands of varmint hunters and they invariably load their own ammunition.
These guys can quote velocities, know their exact load and everything about it, bullet, primer seating depth, tight neck stuff and numerous other facts that contribute to a shooter's over all fund of knowledge. These people that only shoot factory ammunition are completely lost in these conversations, as are those that have someone else do the work for then.
If you want to know what's going on, there is no substitute for studying the art of handloading and getting all knowed up. BB </div></div>
Wow...someone climbed onto the assumption train and left the station...very uneducated, subjective one-sided response. But hey...it's youre "attitude"?...opinion.
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Let me guess. You disagree with my opinion, right? It's okay, I can deal with it. Maybe you should have a good cry and do the same, Cupcake. BB
Let me guess. You disagree with my opinion, right? It's okay, I can deal with it. Maybe you should have a good cry and do the same, Cupcake. BB
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Before you start buying hardware, I would suggest buying the latest version of Lyman's Centerfire Handloading Manual. I think it's about number 49 now.
Read all the non caliber specific stuff. Especially the safety and set up chapters. The Lyman's Manual has more usable information than any other single book out there.
Go to web sites for RCBS and Redding. They both have very good warranty and quality. But I think Redding is still made in the USA. I have heard that RCBS castings are now made in China. But I don't know this personally.
Above all, stay safe.
Before you start buying hardware, I would suggest buying the latest version of Lyman's Centerfire Handloading Manual. I think it's about number 49 now.
Read all the non caliber specific stuff. Especially the safety and set up chapters. The Lyman's Manual has more usable information than any other single book out there.
Go to web sites for RCBS and Redding. They both have very good warranty and quality. But I think Redding is still made in the USA. I have heard that RCBS castings are now made in China. But I don't know this personally.
Above all, stay safe.
Re: getting someone to reload????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BuzzBoss915</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let me guess. You disagree with my opinion, right? It's okay, I can deal with it. Maybe you should have a good cry and do the same, Cupcake. BB </div></div>
Opinion...no, but you said attitude???
"Maybe you should have a good cry and do the same, Cupcake" This attitude...yup, know right where you're coming from
...check.
OP...I think MOST here would agree that firing anothers reloads is generally a bad idea. I'd stick with factory ammo until you decide to reload yourself...or not. SOME...here will tell you that you can learn EVERYTHING you need to know by conducting research and getting out in the field with factory ammo in shooting sports. If you decide to reload ammunition to reduce costs, improve performance...or to simply pick up a new hobby. Great. If not, okay too. If you or your weapon is damaged by someone's reloads both parties will be upset. If it's your reloads...well, that's on you.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BuzzBoss915</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let me guess. You disagree with my opinion, right? It's okay, I can deal with it. Maybe you should have a good cry and do the same, Cupcake. BB </div></div>
Opinion...no, but you said attitude???
"Maybe you should have a good cry and do the same, Cupcake" This attitude...yup, know right where you're coming from
OP...I think MOST here would agree that firing anothers reloads is generally a bad idea. I'd stick with factory ammo until you decide to reload yourself...or not. SOME...here will tell you that you can learn EVERYTHING you need to know by conducting research and getting out in the field with factory ammo in shooting sports. If you decide to reload ammunition to reduce costs, improve performance...or to simply pick up a new hobby. Great. If not, okay too. If you or your weapon is damaged by someone's reloads both parties will be upset. If it's your reloads...well, that's on you.
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IMHO IFFFFF you trust someone and they are detail oriented, I would think those reloads would cost you about the same, if not more than Match Ammo.. No one will reload to only make $.10 a round in profit..
Save up about $700 and go buy your own stuff. Its a hobby, and only YOU truly know whats going into the piece of brass you will be firing 2" from your face!!
IMHO IFFFFF you trust someone and they are detail oriented, I would think those reloads would cost you about the same, if not more than Match Ammo.. No one will reload to only make $.10 a round in profit..
Save up about $700 and go buy your own stuff. Its a hobby, and only YOU truly know whats going into the piece of brass you will be firing 2" from your face!!
Re: getting someone to reload????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow...someone climbed onto the assumption train and left the station...very uneducated, subjective one-sided response. But hey...it's youre "attitude"?...opinion.</div></div>
So, in your world, every post should explore every facet of the question, but dare not offer an opinion, or an attitude, or whatever your point might be? Yeah, I have an opinion and you don't, except to question mine?
If you believe I am uneducated by reading my comments, that strikes me as jumping on the assumption train. I can't figure out what your problem is, but I am done. You have my attitude/opinion; deal with it as best you can. BB
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow...someone climbed onto the assumption train and left the station...very uneducated, subjective one-sided response. But hey...it's youre "attitude"?...opinion.</div></div>
So, in your world, every post should explore every facet of the question, but dare not offer an opinion, or an attitude, or whatever your point might be? Yeah, I have an opinion and you don't, except to question mine?
If you believe I am uneducated by reading my comments, that strikes me as jumping on the assumption train. I can't figure out what your problem is, but I am done. You have my attitude/opinion; deal with it as best you can. BB
Re: getting someone to reload????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SubXerO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If they know what they are doing and label everything and you give them your rifle to work the loads up themselves or are there with you when you shoot each round as they work up a load and you educate the owner of the rifle on the dos and don'ts of handloads then i think it is fine.
I reload for my friend all the time. His .308, But i am always at the range when shooting a new load and i pull the trigger so i am there to see the results, feel the results and over look everything for any signs of pressure ect...
But once i get a good load i have no problem loading him up 60 rounds and he can do what he wants with them. They are tried and trued out of his gun, his brass, safer than some of that store bought crap IMO,
But there is a right and a wrong way of doing it </div></div>
This is exactly what I do for a limited number of friends. They don't shoot enough to get their own equipment so I make a 100 rounds here and 100 rounds there. They pay only the component costs, not even an "allowance" for wear and tear on the equipment.
I too insist on having their rifle for the "work up".
The amount of time it takes me is not that much and considering that I can call on them should I need a favor, it all works out.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SubXerO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If they know what they are doing and label everything and you give them your rifle to work the loads up themselves or are there with you when you shoot each round as they work up a load and you educate the owner of the rifle on the dos and don'ts of handloads then i think it is fine.
I reload for my friend all the time. His .308, But i am always at the range when shooting a new load and i pull the trigger so i am there to see the results, feel the results and over look everything for any signs of pressure ect...
But once i get a good load i have no problem loading him up 60 rounds and he can do what he wants with them. They are tried and trued out of his gun, his brass, safer than some of that store bought crap IMO,
But there is a right and a wrong way of doing it </div></div>
This is exactly what I do for a limited number of friends. They don't shoot enough to get their own equipment so I make a 100 rounds here and 100 rounds there. They pay only the component costs, not even an "allowance" for wear and tear on the equipment.
I too insist on having their rifle for the "work up".
The amount of time it takes me is not that much and considering that I can call on them should I need a favor, it all works out.
Re: getting someone to reload????
I agree with the above post by deadshot. The problem is finding the right person , either limited means, or don't shoot enough to justify the investment.
But, you really aren't helping these people, in every sense of the word. And, they aren't really paying what it costs, you are accommodating a few friends, and perhaps, a few friends of friends that know a good thing when they see it.
As I said elsewhere, your time and effort is not compensated and you are okay with that, which is to your credit. I just do not know enough casual shooters that have asked me to do things that, (personal opinion) what every owner of a centerfire rifle should be doing for themselves.
While this may seem extreme, it is in their best interest to discover the many facets of the sport that they have never known or cared about, before; ie: a committed shooter. Otherwise, buy the factory stuff and don't worry about what you don't know. BB
PS Flame away, I can handle it.
I agree with the above post by deadshot. The problem is finding the right person , either limited means, or don't shoot enough to justify the investment.
But, you really aren't helping these people, in every sense of the word. And, they aren't really paying what it costs, you are accommodating a few friends, and perhaps, a few friends of friends that know a good thing when they see it.
As I said elsewhere, your time and effort is not compensated and you are okay with that, which is to your credit. I just do not know enough casual shooters that have asked me to do things that, (personal opinion) what every owner of a centerfire rifle should be doing for themselves.
While this may seem extreme, it is in their best interest to discover the many facets of the sport that they have never known or cared about, before; ie: a committed shooter. Otherwise, buy the factory stuff and don't worry about what you don't know. BB
PS Flame away, I can handle it.
Re: getting someone to reload????
If you are going to shoot someone else's reloads, you are placing a great deal of trust in that individual. You had better really know that person and be confident in his skills.
Causing a catastrophic failure can be as easy as grabbing the wrong bottle of powder.
I took one of my employees out to shoot and he had ammo from someone up the street who had "been reloading forever". I inspected the rounds. These were .270 rounds loaded on mixed headstamp brass which had clearly not been tumbled. I did not like the look of the rounds. I advised him against shooting the ammo, but he insisted. After the first shot I made him give me the brass. There were significant overpressure signs. I again advised him to stop. The third round blew the primer out of the back of the case and flattened most of the headstamp off the brass. His ejector and ejector spring had to be replaced. I told him he was very lucky that was the extent of the damage, it could have been his face.
Unless you are dealing with someone you seriously trust and who knows what they are doing, learn to reload for yourself or shoot factory.
If you are going to shoot someone else's reloads, you are placing a great deal of trust in that individual. You had better really know that person and be confident in his skills.
Causing a catastrophic failure can be as easy as grabbing the wrong bottle of powder.
I took one of my employees out to shoot and he had ammo from someone up the street who had "been reloading forever". I inspected the rounds. These were .270 rounds loaded on mixed headstamp brass which had clearly not been tumbled. I did not like the look of the rounds. I advised him against shooting the ammo, but he insisted. After the first shot I made him give me the brass. There were significant overpressure signs. I again advised him to stop. The third round blew the primer out of the back of the case and flattened most of the headstamp off the brass. His ejector and ejector spring had to be replaced. I told him he was very lucky that was the extent of the damage, it could have been his face.
Unless you are dealing with someone you seriously trust and who knows what they are doing, learn to reload for yourself or shoot factory.
