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Sidearms & Scatterguns Glock Trigger For CCW

bornhunter04

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I just put a ghost rocket in my G17 and I'm very impressed. I didn't change out any springs, just put the rocket in. It didn't take up much if any of the travel but that's okay, I'm used to the length of pull on glock triggers. But dropping the weight by 2 pounds really makes a big difference. So my question is what's your experience with dropping the weight on a carry gun trigger. I use a G19. Is 3.5 pounds too much for safety? Or would dropping a 4.5 pound dis-connector in there be better?

Personally, I think the 4.5 pound would give me a little extra margin of safety but improve the trigger pull at the same time, a good compromise in other words. But, before I order, I'd like to get some feedback from those who have used/done trigger jobs on they're carry glocks.
 
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I've read that you want to leave any CCW weapon completely stock for liability reasons
 
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+1 for leaving carry weapon's trigger box stock, you can change sights but for liability reasons the trigger should not be modifyed in any way, that goes for using reloads also.
 
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IMHO/YMMV:

ALL FACTORY/OE Parts:
- Glock OE/Factory "-" 3.5 Connector: Polished
- Glock NY1 Trigger Spring Insert
- Glock Firing Pin/Striker-Plunger/Block: Contact Edge Radius/Rounded/Polished
- Glock Trigger Bar Contact Points Polished

Add: LoneWolf Overtravel Housing [Its a Factory Glock Housing with a Overtravel Screw for the Trigger Bar to Come to Rest Against]

-or-

Leave it as is, Just add Sights
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I put a Haley skimmer trigger in my CCW glock. I don't think this is a problem if you train extensively with it in various conditions, but you have to be willing to put the time in to test your equipment. I've put several thousand rounds through me without issues.
 
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If you get into a situation where you’re claiming accidental discharge, then swapping out trigger parts could be a problem. If you get into a situation where you’re claiming self defense than I can’t see how it would make a difference because you’re telling LE that you intentionally shot the person. I like the Ghost Rocket connector, but I also leave my pistol holstered
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MtnCreek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you get into a situation where you’re claiming accidental discharge, then swapping out trigger parts could be a problem. If you get into a situation where you’re claiming self defense than I can’t see how it would make a difference because you’re telling LE that you intentionally shot the person. I like the Ghost Rocket connector, but I also leave my pistol holstered
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This is why I'm thinking about the 4.5 pound. The gun won't leave the holster unless it's absolutely needed, but what if upon holstering under-stress you had an AD, i was considering the 4.5 pound, not too light but just light enough..... It would still retain the same travel length. I'm running the rocket in my 17 for IDPA now.
 
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Before you spend any money trigger upgrades on a Glock do the 25 cent trigger job, and I call BS on the liability thing, if your justified in the use of deadly force it won't matter.
 
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[Soapbox] Lightening a glock trigger with a new/different connector increases creep, PERIOD. It has to. It provides the trigger bar with more mechanical advantage over the stiker lug by making the cam-angle on the connector shallower. Thus, the trigger bar must move farther to drop enough to disengage the striker lug and fire. This is simple physics. It is akin to loosening a tight bolt with a 6" long wrench versus a 1 foot long one... with the short wrench, the bolt snaps free. With the long ine, it eases free.

It amazes me how popular these light connectors are, because they feel like mushy GARBAGE to me...but hey, if it feels good to you, go with it I guess. Me? I like the trigger to break really cleanly. I prefer a clean 5lb trigger over a creepy/mushy 3lb trigger. [/Soapbox]

My favorite Glock trigger mod is a 25¢ trigger job with generous radiusing of the firing pin safety plunger, a weaker spring for the same, a wolf high-power trigger return spring, and grinding the striker lug down for optimal sear engagement. This results in a CLEAN 4-4.5lb letoff.
 
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+1

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Before you spend any money trigger upgrades on a Glock do the 25 cent trigger job, and I call BS on the liability thing, if your justified in the use of deadly force it won't matter. </div></div>
 
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Bornhunter I see you're from Illinois. When did they start allowing CCW?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: swage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bornhunter I see you're from Illinois. When did they start allowing CCW? </div></div>

Still waiting on that......Hopefully we get this year! But as soon as i cross the state border in any direction I can carry, so i do.
 
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I have seen prosecutor asking if the trigger in the gun was stock?
reply: no, i did a trigger job to it.
pros: are you a qualified gunsmith??
reply: no
pros; did you go out to test your trigger that night and looke d for trouble on purpose??
reply NO, I go to the range and practice twice a week.
pros: what kind of target do you use??
repy: black silhouette.
pros: so you practice shooting at black people??
reply Huuu.
pros: what kind of ammo do you use for self defense
reply: the same as my local law enforcment agency(only good answer so far)
verdict 2 years for a legitimate self defense case.(victim was an African American)

don't tell me the liability is bullshit. You never know what your local prosecutor will do.

conclusion, leave your trigger alone and practice on white paper plates.

hope this helps, end of discussion.
 
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I shoot a lot of Glocks. This is what I do. In my primary carry pistols, I leave them mostly stock, not because of prosecutors but because of reliability. They tend to be more reliable when stock. I may change the recoil assy. like in the 10mm and definitely the sights. I also polish the connecting surfaces of the trigger components, but I don't change anything and am really careful doing what I do. Then I grease it good. You get 4.5lbs this way and a smoother trigger using your stock parts.

I polished the parts in my 17L too, and with the 3.5 it now measures closer to 2.5 if memory serves. Great for the range, but I wouldn't want to carry it that light. 3.5 is okay, but 4.5 is better for a carry Glock if you ask me.

Nothing wrong with the factory 5.5 and some breaking in either. Only reason I do the polish job is that I'm pretty good at it and I'm a bit of a Glock nerd. But that said, all of my pistols have stock triggers. Keep 'em stock except the sight, especially for carry. If you want it to work as advertised that is.
 
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I just polish up the surfaces and leave it stock. Mainly becuse I like how it performs that way. breaks somewhere around 4.5-5lbs.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bornhunter04</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> but what if upon holstering under-stress you had an AD, i was considering the 4.5 pound, not too light but just light enough.</div></div>

Now since it has been mentioned, dont think for one second the trigger pull weight has any relationship to avoiding a accidental discharge. The ONLY thing that prevents that is proper weapons handeling skills.

THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO DISCHARGE A GLOCK, PULL THE TRIGGER. If your shooting yourself reholstering then follow the basic safety rules and remove you finger from the trigger guard and off the trigger.

This is something the New York State Police trigger assm. started many years back and most folks didnt understand the dynamics. Police Officers were transitioning from revolvers with a 12-18LBS double action pull to a 5LBS pull. The problem related to training, not equipment. The heavier trigger pull was a crutch for years and many bad habbits were masked. These habbits grew very pronouced with a lighter trigger. To be fair, some of it was also a differant firearm system, staging a double action revolver just prior to a shot was more common back then, another thing that didnt transition to the lighter glock trigger.

Not a single ounce of pressure, not even touching it, should be done unless your are justified and prepared to use deaply force.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowe Left</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've read that you want to leave any CCW weapon completely stock for liability reasons </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: attherange</div><div class="ubbcode-body">+1 for leaving carry weapon's trigger box stock, you can change sights but for liability reasons the trigger should not be modifyed in any way, that goes for using reloads also.</div></div>

Technically, the trigger has not been modified, it has been adjusted.

I think folks are over looking the largest liability, shooting another person ? How that is acomplished within reason is much a mute point. And heck aftermarket sights could be brought up too. Much of these changes are easy to explain.

Why were the factory sights changed, because the front POS plastic sight broke off during training and it looked like my holster ate it.

Why was the disconector replaced? Because the weapon had a 8lbs trigger pull that made it very difficult to hit the target. It was replaced to fit my needs and imporove accuracy. I want a accurate weapon as to not endanger anyone else.

To the OP, I think you should find a trigger that fits your needs and train with it. I am a huge trigger snoob, but if there is no other reason the personal preference, shoot it. I polish mine becuse there are some god awful burrs from the factory. these burrs are hard on other parts too. I have seen G17 conectors almost cut in half on some well shot Police guns that had bag burrs on the trigger bar. They can be made to shoot cleaner very easy with factory parts. And for all the liability nazi's, my gun isnt polished its well used.............
 
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I dont ask me how I know but some connectors and trigger springs
will shoot 5-6 rd bursts
 
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I've been shooting my 19 with the NY 1 and stock connector, and I'm surprised by how much I like it. Sure it's a bit heavier, but speaking subjectively, the reset is more positive and the break is cleaner than the stock set up. Color me pleased.