Grendel Distance?

[Milan metal]

Re: Grendel Distance?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jeff1383</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Then why did you build a rifle in 6.5 and start bitching about it before you've even shot it???? You're panties are all bunched up over what you've heard from outside sources. The ballistic data is there and people have shared their experiences with long distance shooting. I suggest finish it..shoot it...if you don't like it then buy a .338 or .50bmg then update us on your cost of ammo concerns. </div></div>

I am not sure why I am bitching when I am just trying to see what other people are getting distance wise. If I knew everything about grendels you would be asking me question not the other way around. So unless you have something useful to say why post?

I am buying a 338 and 50...it's not that I can't afford it I just don't blow money for no reason. If I can shot 223 at a similar distance with similar accuracy then I am getting rid of the grendel. If the Grendel comes out as well as a few of these guys then I am going to keep it. Will I pay $10 a round to shoot a 12" plate at 1500yrds....HELL YEAH I WOULD!

I am also looking into reloading for my Grendel so if I can reload for a good price like .30-.40 a round I won't sell it anyways.

So if anyone else wants to take shots keep them coming. I guess it is what it is.....

 

[Milan metal]

Re: Grendel Distance?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scottmilk9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is a purple one I did for a buddys wife. Shes shooting it quite well too.
My lower
Side charge upper
My FF tube
Purple anodizing
2 stage trigger
Ergo delux grip
Vltor Imod stock

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I just seen a very similar purple upper and lower go through my local shop. It was also for some guys wife. My next build will be custom colored!

 

[eracer]

Re: Grendel Distance?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eracer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">600-750 yards is what I am hearing and people on here are shooting 1200+ with their 308s. That doesn't seem very close to me.</div></div>You seem to be mixing some facts here, creating a stew of inaccuracies.

Can I shoot 1200 yards with my Grendel? Sure I can.
Can I shoot 10/10 on a 6" plate at 1000 yards? Nope. Is the round inherently capable of it? Absolutely.

Now show me who is reporting that kind of accuracy with a .308 @ 1200 yards.

I'm not sure what kind of argument you need Grendel owners to make here. Is the Grendel superior to the 5.56 at 600-800 yards. Without question.

Is the Grendel more expensive to shoot accurately at those yardages than 5.56? Definitely. But not by much if you handload.

What do you want? A rifle that will win F-class matches? Build an F-class gun, and pay.

You want an accurate rifle that will let you shoot all day long at 600-800 yards, with recoil similar to the 5.56, and far superior ballistics. Get a Grendel.

Want to beat your shoulder up to get 1000 yard work in cheaply (relative to an F-class gun, but about the same cost as a Grendel?) Get a .308 gun, or a .260, or a 6.5/.284, or a 7mm, or a ... </div></div>

I never said the 308 would hit a 6" plate at 1200yrds. I just said they are hitting targets. Before anyone else posted on this it didnt seem like anyone was even shooting past 750 with their grendel.

I dont even know what F class is and to be honest I dont care. It is not like this build has been cheap. I think I have just over $2100 in the gun right now and I dont even have a scope on it yet. I could have bought a 50cal time it is all said and done.
</div></div>Your initial inquiry was: "Hit 10/10 6" steel plates at 1000 yards. That's the metric I'm basing all my comments on.

Could you have gotten a .50? Yep. And paid about $4.00 per round.

Tell us what you've built for $2100 so far.

 

[lethal93ta]

Re: Grendel Distance?

you can get $2000+ into any AR, have that into my JP .223 but it dont shoot near as well as my grendel, my JP.223 and my grendel are built the same other than the barrel/comp's on them and my JP has JP's LMOS buffer and light weight carrier in there.

your 3 times the cost of shooting it is way off, you keep on saying 8 bucks for 20 rounds of ammo for rem .223, that rem .223 you will be lucky to get a 1 MOA group with you need to look at match grade ammo like hornady's 75gr BTHP bullets to even get close to what the grendel can shoot those are around 20 a box and what I shoot out of the JP and that dont even compair to the grendel. if you look around on the internet you can find grendel ammo for around 18 a box. you can reload for around 29 cents a round after you save up some factory brass, I bought 1000 factory rounds and have been reloading them as I shoot them.

here is a list of the parts and the cost to build my grendel when I did mine. some of the parts costs are a little high like the PRS stock I got that at cabelas instead of online since I had points to spend on my cabelas card and got it for free really.

Grendel Build
Lower 90
Upper 90
satern barrel/bolt kit 20" 549
WCI comp 100
magpul PRS stock 250
buffer tube 15
JP tactical bolt carrier 165
JP handguard 165
PRI adjustable gas block/tube 75
JP speed hammer 43
mag release kit 6
bolt catch 8
bolt catch pin/sping/plunger 5
take down pins 15
JP safty 65
JP anti walk trigger pins 8
trigger guard 9
JP trigger 100
JP buffer spring 16
BCM charging handle 42
firing pin 7
bolt cam pin 3
firing pin retaining pin 2
mcfarland one pc ring 3
grip bolt/washer 5
ergo grip 24
takedown springs/detents 6
pins/springs 15
vortex bubble level 35
harris bipod 80
CTK monopod adapter 12
CTK mono pod 150
nightforce unimount 247
nightforce NXS 8-32x56 1800




Total 4205

 

[vinsonr]

Re: Grendel Distance?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am done arguing with you about something so stupid. You can shoot .223 waaaayy cheaper than Grendel and that is all I am saying. </div></div>

I can drive a Kia for waaaayy cheaper than a BMW but I don't go on car forums claiming that they are equivalent or complaining about my BMW car payment.

 

[Milan metal]

Re: Grendel Distance?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eracer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eracer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">600-750 yards is what I am hearing and people on here are shooting 1200+ with their 308s. That doesn't seem very close to me.</div></div>You seem to be mixing some facts here, creating a stew of inaccuracies.

Can I shoot 1200 yards with my Grendel? Sure I can.
Can I shoot 10/10 on a 6" plate at 1000 yards? Nope. Is the round inherently capable of it? Absolutely.

Now show me who is reporting that kind of accuracy with a .308 @ 1200 yards.

I'm not sure what kind of argument you need Grendel owners to make here. Is the Grendel superior to the 5.56 at 600-800 yards. Without question.

Is the Grendel more expensive to shoot accurately at those yardages than 5.56? Definitely. But not by much if you handload.

What do you want? A rifle that will win F-class matches? Build an F-class gun, and pay.

You want an accurate rifle that will let you shoot all day long at 600-800 yards, with recoil similar to the 5.56, and far superior ballistics. Get a Grendel.

Want to beat your shoulder up to get 1000 yard work in cheaply (relative to an F-class gun, but about the same cost as a Grendel?) Get a .308 gun, or a .260, or a 6.5/.284, or a 7mm, or a ... </div></div>

I never said the 308 would hit a 6" plate at 1200yrds. I just said they are hitting targets. Before anyone else posted on this it didnt seem like anyone was even shooting past 750 with their grendel.

I dont even know what F class is and to be honest I dont care. It is not like this build has been cheap. I think I have just over $2100 in the gun right now and I dont even have a scope on it yet. I could have bought a 50cal time it is all said and done.
</div></div>Your initial inquiry was: "Hit 10/10 6" steel plates at 1000 yards. That's the metric I'm basing all my comments on.

Could you have gotten a .50? Yep. And paid about $4.00 per round.

Tell us what you've built for $2100 so far. </div></div>

I apologize for the confusion I wasn't talking about the six inch plate anymore because everyone has said only a few rounds can actually do it. That is why I am buying a 338 and 50 bmg.

My build so far contains:

QD billet lower $175
QD billet side charging upper with young bolt carrier $420
24" Lilja fluted match grade bull barrel from PF $750
Cerakote barrel $85
CMMG lower parts kit $60
RR two stage trigger $125
Magpul PRS stock $200
JP 15 hand guards $200
Harris bipod $70
2 26 round mags from AA $50
DPMS gas block and tube $50
CAA upg16 w/ palm rest $60
Redfield 6-18x44 w/ rings $275 (holding me over until I get my sightron siii 10-50x)

If my math is correct that is $2520. You never really know what you got into something with figuring it out. I not even done yet.

I bought the some best parts I could find for this build and I have been on here for two months asking questions and learning. Lethal has helped more than anyone I think.

 

[Milan metal]

Re: Grendel Distance?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lethal93ta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you can get $2000+ into any AR, have that into my JP .223 but it dont shoot near as well as my grendel, my JP.223 and my grendel are built the same other than the barrel/comp's on them and my JP has JP's LMOS buffer and light weight carrier in there.

your 3 times the cost of shooting it is way off, you keep on saying 8 bucks for 20 rounds of ammo for rem .223, that rem .223 you will be lucky to get a 1 MOA group with you need to look at match grade ammo like hornady's 75gr BTHP bullets to even get close to what the grendel can shoot those are around 20 a box and what I shoot out of the JP and that dont even compair to the grendel. if you look around on the internet you can find grendel ammo for around 18 a box. you can reload for around 29 cents a round after you save up some factory brass, I bought 1000 factory rounds and have been reloading them as I shoot them.

here is a list of the parts and the cost to build my grendel when I did mine. some of the parts costs are a little high like the PRS stock I got that at cabelas instead of online since I had points to spend on my cabelas card and got it for free really.

Grendel Build
Lower 90
Upper 90
satern barrel/bolt kit 20" 549
WCI comp 100
magpul PRS stock 250
buffer tube 15
JP tactical bolt carrier 165
JP handguard 165
PRI adjustable gas block/tube 75
JP speed hammer 43
mag release kit 6
bolt catch 8
bolt catch pin/sping/plunger 5
take down pins 15
JP safty 65
JP anti walk trigger pins 8
trigger guard 9
JP trigger 100
JP buffer spring 16
BCM charging handle 42
firing pin 7
bolt cam pin 3
firing pin retaining pin 2
mcfarland one pc ring 3
grip bolt/washer 5
ergo grip 24
takedown springs/detents 6
pins/springs 15
vortex bubble level 35
harris bipod 80
CTK monopod adapter 12
CTK mono pod 150
nightforce unimount 247
nightforce NXS 8-32x56 1800




Total 4205



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I understand that match grade ammo is similar but my point is you can just go play with cheap ammo in your back yard much cheaper. I am not a competition shooter or anything so it doesn't matter to me. Yes when I go to try to shoot 700 yards I will have the good stuff but everyday shooting give me the wolf! So from wolf to wolf it is 3x cheaper. No don't get it confused if I find it is not that mucher cheaper as I get into it I will admit it but from where I am sitting right now I am sticking to my point.

 

[Milan metal]

Re: Grendel Distance?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vinson</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am done arguing with you about something so stupid. You can shoot .223 waaaayy cheaper than Grendel and that is all I am saying. </div></div>

I can drive a Kia for waaaayy cheaper than a BMW but I don't go on car forums claiming that they are equivalent or complaining about my BMW car payment. </div></div>

Geez man...you made your point, I made mine. We look at it two different ways. I am done arguing.