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Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

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In my short time on this forum I have read through a number of threads about bipods in order to help me choose the best one to use on a .308 5R in place of my current imitation Harris. There seemed to be the most support for getting an Atlas, followed by a Harris (either modified or not). Others like GG&G and Versapod had some strong supporters but nowhere near as many.

One that I saw asked about several times was the Tangodown ACB-4 but for some reason no one ever seemed to post a reply recommending it. Based on what I did find about the Tangodown, I thought maybe it was an overlooked equal to the Atlas. Even though it seems to be designed for an AR, I thought it had a good group of features - no external components, adjustable legs, swivel/pan and tilt/cant capabilities - that would make it suitable for my bolt gun. I ordered one for $190 shipped on botachtactical.com

It arrived yesterday and I found out that I was very over-optimistic. I immediately noticed the following problems:
The swivel and tilt range is extremely limited.
The size is much longer and than I expected (probably three inches longer than the Atlas when fully retracted).
The space between the legs when they are up doesn't fit well on a stock with significant palmswell.
The feet are hard plastic, so the checkered bottoms don't really provide any grip on hard, flat surfaces.

I have inspected a friend's Atlas a couple times and don't believe it has any of the same problems. Since I can get an Atlas for ~205 shipped from Midway using their coupon codes, I have decided that the extra $25 will be money well-spent. The quality metal construction AND lighter weight with "grippier" feet and greater range of motion have won another Atlas fan. Maybe I was just foolish trying to use the Tangodown for a bolt gun but I think I would still prefer the Atlas for an AR. I hope this information helps any others that may have been looking at the Tangodown. If you really want an alternative, I think I would check out the GG&G but the Atlas looks so much cleaner and more refined that I'm not even going to keep searching.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

If saving a few bucks was important to you why not go with the Harris? It's a proven product.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

I looked at VLTOR's for a long time. But I ended up with an Atlas and I'm very happy I did. It's a magnificent piece of kit.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

Mirynx, I don't like the external springs and wanted to add swivel and tilt capabilities.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

I knew you would come around and get the atlas
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Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

You've got a pair of big brass balls if you're ordering from Botach.
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Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

I have several Harris and just got my first Atlas, the $280 version with QR clamp. I like the swivel/pan capability that the Harris lacks. The Atlas doesn't deploy as quickly as the Harris and the legs may not lock up as well in between notches (lengthwise), but I still think the Atlas is the only one I'll be buying from now on - at least for my guns with lower rails. Looks like the Harris is still the choice for guns with only a sling swivel stud.

Midway was out of stock about a week ago when I checked. I got mine from Triad Tactical.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

Being a Harris owner from the start, I'm not that familiar with the other bipods. I've looked at the the Atlas, I don't see anything that makes it worth double the price of a Harris. There are some cool options for the Harris and the Atlas. The only thing on the Harris I don't care for are the internal springs in the legs. To make any height adjustment it take both hands, or you run the risk of loosing your original setting.
With the swivel head at least the legs don't need to match in height.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

Just an FYI for you, the Atlas doesn't have a lot of cant (tilt) built in. Probably more than enough for realistic conditions, but I don't shoot off of uneven surfaces enough to say.

Loading the bipod feels different between the harris and the atlas, and that is a big factor for me. Without any of the fancy feet on the two, the atlas loads and stays well. The harris has a tendency to slip and walk, depending on the surface.

I agree with the general consensus - I will buy another atlas before another harris.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

why not buy a floppy headed harris and some adapters and run atlas feet?
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: majohnson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've looked at the the Atlas, I don't see anything that makes it worth double the price of a Harris. </div></div>

Haha, good one.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

I have used a Harris bipod for years, the last two were the modified Harris from LaRue...sold them all and switched to Atlas.

The Atlas is well made and engineered and is a great bipod, loads easily, has a good pan and tilt feature.

The Harris does deploy quicker and IMO just as durable as the Atlas. You have to give Harris credit, they build a durable bipod.

In the future, I will be sticking to Atlas but I can see getting another LaRue/Harris modified for one particular rifle I have in mind.

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Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

get a harris.
Shoot a few matches with an Atlas and you will see why.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZRM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">get a harris.
Shoot a few matches with an Atlas and you will see why.
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I just sold my Atlas and bolted on my old Harris.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ANGLICO Marine</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZRM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">get a harris.
Shoot a few matches with an Atlas and you will see why.
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I just sold my Atlas and bolted on my old Harris. </div></div>


I've been looking at getting an Atlas. Currently have all Harris. Please explain what you don't like about the Atlas.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

It wasn't anything terrible and I know they're made well but, I just didn't like the detent thing. I know that you can adjust the angle of the legs, but I just like the hard stop in the Harris. They just seem sturdier to me. Being in the military I've using various pieces of gear with detents and it is MY experience that detents kind of loosen up with hard use...which is why the hard stop with the Harris is so appealingly me...just feel more confident loading the bipod. Other may not agree...just my two cents.

 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

I will be getting rid of an Atlas for the Harris. The Atlas is to slow to deploy and adjust for my competition rifle. I will still keep one Atlas for my hunting rifle.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

the atlas system is nice, very nice....but for MOST people....it's more of a nut ride/bandwagon than actual need. I run a harris...it works, but it's also getting replaced with something more adapted to my style of shooting.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

If you are referring to the constant hyperbole about Atlas bipods here on the Hide I have to agree.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GSRswapandslow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the atlas system is nice, very nice....but for MOST people....it's more of a nut ride/bandwagon than actual need. </div></div>
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jAXDIALATION</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are referring to the constant hyperbole about Atlas bipods here on the Hide I have to agree.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GSRswapandslow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the atlas system is nice, very nice....but for MOST people....it's more of a nut ride/bandwagon than actual need. </div></div></div></div>

indeed
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

I definitely didn't expect for this to turn into another Harris vs Atlas thread. The only point I wanted to make was that If you are looking at a TangoDown you might be better off with an Atlas. Anyway, my first experience with Botach went well. I got the first bipod quickly and got a full refund immediately after I returned it.
 
Re: Bipods: Why I'm Returning a Tangodown for an Atlas

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I definitely didn't expect for this to turn into another Harris vs Atlas thread.</div></div>

As opposed to the LRA
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