Have anyone tried the new Generation 2's?? If so is it a big difference 2 as opossed of 1? Just trying to see how the stack up with the Gen1's as per function, looks etc
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Re: ~HS PRECISION~BM & Detachable Mag? ~GENERATATION2~
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Re: ~HS PRECISION~BM & Detachable Mag? ~GENERATATION2~
I like the function of the 2nd generation and the looks of the first generation. The second generation, the bottom metal is a little lighter and less bulky. It has a bigger magazine release that is still in the same spot as the first. You won't accidently bump it, but when you want to use it,it will be more positive. The magazine on the second generation attached to two points not just one. The main difference in attachment is the second generation has a lip on the front of the mag that positively locks the mag in place until you release it. It doesn't rattle. I upgraded my HSP HTR to the newer system. I can still put my first generation mags in the 2nd generation bdm, but when loaded the front slides down as there is no lip for the front to lock onto. I am pretty sure I could make it work if I really wanted to. The main thing I don't like about the second generation is that all their mags have a protective hard plastic shell. It puts pressure on the bottom of the stock to reduce rattle and provide a little cover for someone that messed up their inlet. It hangs down, about 3/4" with the 4 mag. One of the things I liked most about the HSP first generation system, was the lower capacity mags looked almost like a stock bottom metal fitting almost flush, but this didn't allow for positive control, if the mag didnt' drop out when released. The larger mags didn't have this problem, but where said to rattle. I bought two second generation bdms one for my HSP HTR because it offered a high cap mag for my 300 WM,(7 rounds) as opposed to 3 rounds) with the old system. I still have it. The second I bought for my 308, I liked the idea of having the ability to have quick reloads and the possiblity for a higher 10 round magazine. I didn't like how it looked though, and since I don't really need the high cap mag, I opted for just keeping the PTG BDL bottom metal it has. I returned the second to HSP and they gave me a full refund, no problems at all. I still toy with putting a first gen system on my 308. I never had any issues with it, but I will admit the second generation is better, but in my subjective opinion less visually appealing. I know that is subjective it may be your cup of tea.
I like the function of the 2nd generation and the looks of the first generation. The second generation, the bottom metal is a little lighter and less bulky. It has a bigger magazine release that is still in the same spot as the first. You won't accidently bump it, but when you want to use it,it will be more positive. The magazine on the second generation attached to two points not just one. The main difference in attachment is the second generation has a lip on the front of the mag that positively locks the mag in place until you release it. It doesn't rattle. I upgraded my HSP HTR to the newer system. I can still put my first generation mags in the 2nd generation bdm, but when loaded the front slides down as there is no lip for the front to lock onto. I am pretty sure I could make it work if I really wanted to. The main thing I don't like about the second generation is that all their mags have a protective hard plastic shell. It puts pressure on the bottom of the stock to reduce rattle and provide a little cover for someone that messed up their inlet. It hangs down, about 3/4" with the 4 mag. One of the things I liked most about the HSP first generation system, was the lower capacity mags looked almost like a stock bottom metal fitting almost flush, but this didn't allow for positive control, if the mag didnt' drop out when released. The larger mags didn't have this problem, but where said to rattle. I bought two second generation bdms one for my HSP HTR because it offered a high cap mag for my 300 WM,(7 rounds) as opposed to 3 rounds) with the old system. I still have it. The second I bought for my 308, I liked the idea of having the ability to have quick reloads and the possiblity for a higher 10 round magazine. I didn't like how it looked though, and since I don't really need the high cap mag, I opted for just keeping the PTG BDL bottom metal it has. I returned the second to HSP and they gave me a full refund, no problems at all. I still toy with putting a first gen system on my 308. I never had any issues with it, but I will admit the second generation is better, but in my subjective opinion less visually appealing. I know that is subjective it may be your cup of tea.
Re: ~HS PRECISION~BM & Detachable Mag? ~GENERATATION2~
I haven't installed mine yet but I got a v2 for my SA 7-08 hunting build. I like the nearly flush mags and the ease of unloading after a hunt.
As stated, haven't installed yet, but looking forward to it soon.
I haven't installed mine yet but I got a v2 for my SA 7-08 hunting build. I like the nearly flush mags and the ease of unloading after a hunt.
As stated, haven't installed yet, but looking forward to it soon.
Re: ~HS PRECISION~BM & Detachable Mag? ~GENERATATION2~
Here is a picture showing the Gen I on the left and the Gen II on the right. The Gen I fit more flush with the lower cap mags. The Gen II is more functional.
Here is a picture showing the Gen I on the left and the Gen II on the right. The Gen I fit more flush with the lower cap mags. The Gen II is more functional.
Re: ~HS PRECISION~BM & Detachable Mag? ~GENERATATION2~
The only reason that I used the generation one was because they were flush. If you like the look of the generation 2 then I would go with another maker. Seekins maybe.
The only reason that I used the generation one was because they were flush. If you like the look of the generation 2 then I would go with another maker. Seekins maybe.
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Re: ~HS PRECISION~BM & Detachable Mag? ~GENERATATION2~
I've the 1st gen on two .308's, never an issue.
Looked at the HS/P for the .300wm but went with a Wyatt instead. After using the Wyatt on my .300, my last .308 is a Wyatt as well.
I've the 1st gen on two .308's, never an issue.
Looked at the HS/P for the .300wm but went with a Wyatt instead. After using the Wyatt on my .300, my last .308 is a Wyatt as well.
Re: ~HS PRECISION~BM & Detachable Mag? ~GENERATATION2~
I've got to look when I get home, but I'm not sure that is a good picture of the v2. I don't think the 4 round mags that I got stick out that far, and a more flush fit was what I wanted too.
The v2 does offer a 10 round mag now. Is that what is pictured there?
I've got to look when I get home, but I'm not sure that is a good picture of the v2. I don't think the 4 round mags that I got stick out that far, and a more flush fit was what I wanted too.
The v2 does offer a 10 round mag now. Is that what is pictured there?
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The Gen1 is maybe what I'm after because of the flush fit, as I looked at the 2012 downloadable catalog @ HS's website the Gen2's sticks down QUITE a bit from the bottom of the stocks they have them in. With many saying their Gen1's work great and not rattling I'll have no problem what so ever using one!!!!
The Gen1 is maybe what I'm after because of the flush fit, as I looked at the 2012 downloadable catalog @ HS's website the Gen2's sticks down QUITE a bit from the bottom of the stocks they have them in. With many saying their Gen1's work great and not rattling I'll have no problem what so ever using one!!!!
Re: ~HS PRECISION~BM & Detachable Mag? ~GENERATATION2~
You can get a 10 round mag in short action for both the gen 1 and gen 2. HSP still makes mags for both, but will eventually taper off the gen 1. They do not produce the gen 1 bottom metal anymore. The 4 round mag on the gen 2 only sticks down 3/4"- 1" maybe, but its not flush like the gen 1. Both pictures were taken from HSP catalogs, so I can't really defend how they look. While the gen 2 sticks down a little farther it doesn't hold more rounds. The part sticking down was designed to provide a positive way to extract teh magazine. The plastic finish is the same texture as the stock. I would love to have the gen 2 bottom metal combined with the gen 1 magazines. When I spoke to HSP about it, they said that was most likely not going to happen in the forsee able future. I can take some pictures of both the Gen 1 and Gen 2 bottom metal when I go home next week. They only offered a 7 round mag in Gen 2 when I got it, but maybe they are making 3 rounds for them now. The 7 round extends out of the bottom like the 10 round does on the short action calibers. If you look at the magazine closest to the Gen 1 bottom metal pictured, I would say that represents a 4 round gen 2 mag. It doesn't stick down a lot but its not flush like the older gen 1.
You can get a 10 round mag in short action for both the gen 1 and gen 2. HSP still makes mags for both, but will eventually taper off the gen 1. They do not produce the gen 1 bottom metal anymore. The 4 round mag on the gen 2 only sticks down 3/4"- 1" maybe, but its not flush like the gen 1. Both pictures were taken from HSP catalogs, so I can't really defend how they look. While the gen 2 sticks down a little farther it doesn't hold more rounds. The part sticking down was designed to provide a positive way to extract teh magazine. The plastic finish is the same texture as the stock. I would love to have the gen 2 bottom metal combined with the gen 1 magazines. When I spoke to HSP about it, they said that was most likely not going to happen in the forsee able future. I can take some pictures of both the Gen 1 and Gen 2 bottom metal when I go home next week. They only offered a 7 round mag in Gen 2 when I got it, but maybe they are making 3 rounds for them now. The 7 round extends out of the bottom like the 10 round does on the short action calibers. If you look at the magazine closest to the Gen 1 bottom metal pictured, I would say that represents a 4 round gen 2 mag. It doesn't stick down a lot but its not flush like the older gen 1.
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I wouldn't trust it in a competition, my gen 1 DBM has problems feeding sometimes but for the most part functions well.
I wouldn't trust it in a competition, my gen 1 DBM has problems feeding sometimes but for the most part functions well.
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The mag on the right might be the 5 rounded s/a. I have a gen 2 Dbm with 4 rd mag en route from Brownells to compare. I hope to get a 5 rd mag as well.
The mag on the right might be the 5 rounded s/a. I have a gen 2 Dbm with 4 rd mag en route from Brownells to compare. I hope to get a 5 rd mag as well.
Re: ~HS PRECISION~BM & Detachable Mag? ~GENERATATION2~
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lawofsavage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't trust it in a competition, my gen 1 DBM has problems feeding sometimes but for the most part functions well. </div></div>Are the problems with a FULL mag or one short?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lawofsavage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't trust it in a competition, my gen 1 DBM has problems feeding sometimes but for the most part functions well. </div></div>Are the problems with a FULL mag or one short?
Re: ~HS PRECISION~BM & Detachable Mag? ~GENERATATION2~
so the magazine capacity for .308 is still 4 rounds in Gen 2 and the mag sticks out more? What happend to the 5 round mags they made for the HTR?
so the magazine capacity for .308 is still 4 rounds in Gen 2 and the mag sticks out more? What happend to the 5 round mags they made for the HTR?
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I talked with a sales rep at HSP yesterday and he stated they were making 4,5&10rd mags for the 308 family of cartridges. He said their backorders are about 3 months out.
I talked with a sales rep at HSP yesterday and he stated they were making 4,5&10rd mags for the 308 family of cartridges. He said their backorders are about 3 months out.
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If you check their website on a pdf catalog they list a low capacity, med capacity and high capacity mag. Brownells only had the bottom metal assy with a four round mag so I ordered that one since I wanted a four round for hunting.
If you check their website on a pdf catalog they list a low capacity, med capacity and high capacity mag. Brownells only had the bottom metal assy with a four round mag so I ordered that one since I wanted a four round for hunting.
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I have had feeding issues a few times ( about 4 out of 200 rounds so far) I have only ever used the mag when I loaded it full other wise I just put in bullet in the chamber with the bolt open. I am not real impressed with the HS DBM but I think the bedding system in the stock is very good for the price. I wouldn't have chosen it but that is what my gun came from with factory. When I upgrade it will be a Manners T2 with their mini chassis.
I have had feeding issues a few times ( about 4 out of 200 rounds so far) I have only ever used the mag when I loaded it full other wise I just put in bullet in the chamber with the bolt open. I am not real impressed with the HS DBM but I think the bedding system in the stock is very good for the price. I wouldn't have chosen it but that is what my gun came from with factory. When I upgrade it will be a Manners T2 with their mini chassis.
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Yes I do hear of feeding issues with a full mag, what I'll do is put one short of a full mag in, one in the chamber and rock on!!!!
Yes I do hear of feeding issues with a full mag, what I'll do is put one short of a full mag in, one in the chamber and rock on!!!!
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That pic posted up several posts above must be the 5 rnd mag. This is the four round version 2 that I just got for my 7-08 build.
That pic posted up several posts above must be the 5 rnd mag. This is the four round version 2 that I just got for my 7-08 build.
Re: ~HS PRECISION~BM & Detachable Mag? ~GENERATATION2~
Here is a side by side comparison of the gen 1 and gen 2 HSP magazines. The top is the gen 1 the bottom is gen 2. They both hold 3 rounds of magnum (300WM) ammo or 4 rounds of standard (30-06).
As you can see the gen 1 will fit in the gen 2 bottom metal but is missing a lip on the front of the magazine to attach properly and would fall out it you tried to use it.
The gen 2 magazine is more secure and while it has a low profile it is noticeably taller than the gen 1. I prefer the look of the gen 1, but the function of the gen2. I have not had any problems with either.
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Here is a side by side comparison of the gen 1 and gen 2 HSP magazines. The top is the gen 1 the bottom is gen 2. They both hold 3 rounds of magnum (300WM) ammo or 4 rounds of standard (30-06).
As you can see the gen 1 will fit in the gen 2 bottom metal but is missing a lip on the front of the magazine to attach properly and would fall out it you tried to use it.
The gen 2 magazine is more secure and while it has a low profile it is noticeably taller than the gen 1. I prefer the look of the gen 1, but the function of the gen2. I have not had any problems with either.
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