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Suppressors Suppressor help for newby for JP 16"

kujo929

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Totally new to suppressors. Want one for my 16" JP LRP 308. This rifle is used for LE sniper duty and I want to find the best suppressor that is ear safe while being as short as possible while providing best accuracy. Not overly concerned about being ultra quiet, more interested in keeping it short and reducing muzzle blast for shooting from vehicle or urban hides while not losing accuracy.

Thread on or QD doesn't matter as it likely will always be on as long as its repeatable for cleaning removal and such.

Any direction for basic suppressor knowledge is appreciated also. I've been reading all I can find here.
 
Re: Suppressor help for newby for JP 16"

TBAC 30p-1 very good for no accuracy loss but longer than you may need.

Sure fire Mini 7.62 good for accuracy short but louder than some longer ones. Good on a semi auto.
 
Re: Suppressor help for newby for JP 16"

I would go with the 30p. The SF is not in the same ball park for DB reduction, it is shorter, but you lose alot in those 3". I have several SAS RPER ordered. I'll put one to the test and get back to you. They are 6" long. Rated for 300WM. Getting for a blackout, but I'll try It on a 16" 308.
 
Re: Suppressor help for newby for JP 16"

Appreciate the help. Would like to go shorter than 9" if possible as that puts me back to the 26" range of the 700p I was using before I got the JP. You may be right though. Unfortunately I'm not in an area where I can go see suppressors first hand. They were only recently legalized here for LE use.
 
Re: Suppressor help for newby for JP 16"

DPD Brevis....... short fat can that works.
 
Re: Suppressor help for newby for JP 16"

Deadeye

Thanks, I was not aware of DPD. They appear to have only steel suppressors currently. Have you used these? And how was the zero shift? The JP doesn't have a super heavy barrel so I want to try to keep the suppressor weight low also in hopes of minimizing zero shift.

Thanks though, that fat,short profile looks to have potential for this application
 
Re: Suppressor help for newby for JP 16"

A thunderbeast 30p-1 is 9". Love mine, very quite and they are designed around accuracy.
 
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AAC 7.62-SDN-6 can for sure. I have a JP LRP-07 and even with the adjustable gas block you will want a can that minimizes the back pressure. The tight tolerances in the JP won't like a lot of gas being blown back into the gun....the AAC and LRP are a great mix....no real affects on accuracy once you zero with the can on the gun. The combo works for me....you can squeeze a tiny bit more long range accuracy out with the cyclone.
 
Re: Suppressor help for newby for JP 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: loki*hunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AAC 7.62-SDN-6 can for sure. I have a JP LRP-07 and even with the adjustable gas block you will want a can that minimizes the back pressure. The tight tolerances in the JP won't like a lot of gas being blown back into the gun....the AAC and LRP are a great mix....no real affects on accuracy once you zero with the can on the gun. The combo works for me....you can squeeze a tiny bit more long range accuracy out with the cyclone. </div></div>

Maybe dumb question but how do you determine how much back pressure one can will have vs another? Or if the adjustable gas block is able to compensate?

I contacted TBAC about the possibility of a demo 30P
 
Re: Suppressor help for newby for JP 16"

You usually can't without trying it. Back pressure refers to the additional pressure pushing gas back down the bore due to the suppressor, usually noticeable going into the action and your face. This is not really affected by the gas block setting. An adjustable gas block can reduce the amount and/or pressure of gas entering the gas key, however in properly built AR pattern rifles we've found that no adjustment is needed to run with our suppressors.
 
Re: Suppressor help for newby for JP 16"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kujo929</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: loki*hunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AAC 7.62-SDN-6 can for sure. I have a JP LRP-07 and even with the adjustable gas block you will want a can that minimizes the back pressure. The tight tolerances in the JP won't like a lot of gas being blown back into the gun....the AAC and LRP are a great mix....no real affects on accuracy once you zero with the can on the gun. The combo works for me....you can squeeze a tiny bit more long range accuracy out with the cyclone. </div></div>

Maybe dumb question but how do you determine how much back pressure one can will have vs another? Or if the adjustable gas block is able to compensate?

I contacted TBAC about the possibility of a demo 30P </div></div>

The term "additional back pressure" is somewhat of a misnomer. The pressure will not increase in the bore due to a suppressor being on the end of the rifle.

Without going into it, the suppressor mimics a longer barrel using the same gas system. The ability of the suppressor to work within the parameters of the rifle gas system is determined by its pressure curve on a given barrel length.

The suppressor is basically increasing the duration of the high pressure gas at the barrel gas port. It does not increase the pressure. What you get as a result is an increased gas impulse acting on the piston. You then are looking at an action that may open earlier or have increased bolt speed. If the action opens early enough before the pressure in the chamber has dropped, you may experience difficult extraction or gas exiting through the chamber.

Our BREVIS 7.62 compact suppressor works well in actions where some suppressors do not, but any design you choose will be a compromise. The key is choosing a suppressor based on a needs basis. If you have the option to use one of the JP adjustable gas blocks with your rifle, it can go a long way toward making the suppressor you choose compatible for the platform.

I might suggest listing everything you would like the suppressor to do, then weight these goals. This will give you the ability to choose between the different designs and their differing performance.

Hope that helps. Best of luck with your project. And always, shooting the suppressors on your short list is best if possible!